Why is this team, and staff, so dumb?

[Bermuda Triangle]

Why must the same mistakes be made over and over and over again?  Is there any accountability for the players and coaches?

 

Examples:

1. Gabe Davis fumbles against NYG 2 weeks ago, because he failed to shift the ball from his inside hand to outside hand.  He did the same thing today, in the second quarter.  This is basic, fundamental football.

2. Taron Johnson:  how many weeks in a row has he committed a crucial penalty on 3rd or 4th down?

3.  How many times does McDermott need to see Taron Johnson get beat on the same play in the end zone?

4. Dorsey, and his affinity for the shotgun on 3rd and short plays, deep in enemy territory.  Second time in 3 weeks.  

5. The horrible job on the Hail Mary - again.  Got burned on Hail Murray, and almost inexplicably, the very next week (maybe the Chargers?)

6. Dumb penalties, poor tackling and lack of discipline.

 

Why did McDermott have the offense take its foot off of the gas after the score became 24-10?  With this defense - its lack of playmakers and anemic pass rush - the margin of error will be thin, so it's imperative that the offense score early AND often.  This game shouldn't have been close.  

[WotAGuy]

The game was scripted for the Bills to win; McD was tasked with making it look close. Mission accomplished.  
#NFLisrigged

[Franco_92]

It is absolutely insane that Bills fans think there is something uniquely horrifying about the way their team wins games. It makes every place you can go to read about the Bills on the internet completely insufferable. 

 

Tonight is a game that looked EXACTLY like the VAST MAJORITY of games (especially Thursday games) between a good team and a decent team. This was an ARCHETYPE of an NFL football game. And your team won! ***** enjoy it! Holy *****! 

Edited October 27, 2023 by Franco_92

[Bermuda Triangle]

1 minute ago, Franco_92 said:

It is absolutely insane that Bills fans think there is something uniquely horrifying about the way their team wins games. It makes every place you can go to read about the Bills on the internet completely insufferable. 

 

Tonight is a game that looked EXACTLY like the VAST MAJORITY of games (especially Thursday games) between a good team and a decent team. This was an ARCHETYPE of an NFL football game. And your team won! ***** enjoy it! Holy *****! 

And yet you're here.  

 

You think this should have been a close game?

[Simon]

17 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

And yet you're here.  

 

You think this should have been a close game?

 

I'll bet you my house he already regrets posting in this thread. 

I know I do.

[Franco_92]

18 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

And yet you're here.  

 

You think this should have been a close game?

I am as surprised that a 14 point late 4th quarter lead turned into a 6 point 4th quarter lead against a decent but not great team tonight, as I was when Denver had the ball down one score late in the 4th quarter against KC two weeks ago, yes. Or that Houston took them to OT last year. Because I watch NFL football. This was an NFL football game, that the Bills won. Like all NFL teams in all NFL games, they have a lot they can work on, but unlike some teams, they won the game, and unlike most teams in the entire history of the league, the Bills get an obscene number of blowout wins that fans have decided are the only acceptable way to experience an NFL game. 

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

I'll bet you my house he already regrets posting in this thread. 

Hand it over, I'm having a blast! 

 

Unless that means you're gonna warn me. Please don't I will behave I"m sorry!!

Edited October 27, 2023 by Franco_92

[Solomon Grundy]

Back to the opening question. This coaching staff, IMO, is the most bullheaded, egotistical staff I've seen in a while. The dumbass fakes on 4th and short really fooled the Bucs 😳. Josh Norman being in uniform while their 1st round pick is inactive 😳. They try to run a play with time running down to end the 3rd qtr and your QB takes a sack losing field position 😳. 

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, Franco_92 said:

Hand it over, I'm having a blast! 

 

OK, but I haven't vacuumed since Monday.

 

3 minutes ago, Franco_92 said:

Unless that means you're gonna warn me. Please don't I will behave I"m sorry!!

 

Not at all.

Just suggesting there is more interesting conversation in other places that might be closer to your standards.

[What a Tuel]

24 minutes ago, Franco_92 said:

It is absolutely insane that Bills fans think there is something uniquely horrifying about the way their team wins games. It makes every place you can go to read about the Bills on the internet completely insufferable. 

 

Tonight is a game that looked EXACTLY like the VAST MAJORITY of games (especially Thursday games) between a good team and a decent team. This was an ARCHETYPE of an NFL football game. And your team won! ***** enjoy it! Holy *****! 

 

All they do is see the highlights of opposing teams and win/loss, they don't see all the nitty gritty stuff like the Chiefs leading the Broncos by one possession all the way until 1:55 in the 4th quarter.

 

Or the Eagles going tit for tat with the Commanders and into OT.

 

Or the 49ers being up 27-17 in the 4th and letting the Rams hang around 27-20 until 1:49 left in the 4th.

 

Edited October 27, 2023 by What a Tuel

[Bermuda Triangle]

1 minute ago, Franco_92 said:

I am as surprised that a 14 point late 4th quarter lead turned into a 6 point 4th quarter lead against a decent but not great team tonight, as I was when Denver had the ball down one score late in the 4th quarter against KC two weeks ago, yes. Or that Houston took them to OT last year. Because I watch NFL football. This was an NFL football game, that the Bills won. Like all NFL teams in all NFL games, they have a lot they can work on, but unlike some teams, they won the game, and unlike most teams in the entire history of the league, the Bills get an obscene number of blowout wins that fans have decided are the only acceptable way to experience an NFL game. 

Hand it over, I'm having a blast! 

Maybe it's me, but I'll give a Super Bowl Champion a little more leeway and benefit of the doubt than I do the Bills.  Of course, contextually, you're ignoring last week's Bills debacle 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

35 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Why must the same mistakes be made over and over and over again?  Is there any accountability for the players and coaches?

 

Examples:

1. Gabe Davis fumbles against NYG 2 weeks ago, because he failed to shift the ball from his inside hand to outside hand.  He did the same thing today, in the second quarter.  This is basic, fundamental football.

2. Taron Johnson:  how many weeks in a row has he committed a crucial penalty on 3rd or 4th down?

3.  How many times does McDermott need to see Taron Johnson get beat on the same play in the end zone?

4. Dorsey, and his affinity for the shotgun on 3rd and short plays, deep in enemy territory.  Second time in 3 weeks.  

5. The horrible job on the Hail Mary - again.  Got burned on Hail Murray, and almost inexplicably, the very next week (maybe the Chargers?)

6. Dumb penalties, poor tackling and lack of discipline.

 

Why did McDermott have the offense take its foot off of the gas after the score became 24-10?  With this defense - its lack of playmakers and anemic pass rush - the margin of error will be thin, so it's imperative that the offense score early AND often.  This game shouldn't have been close.  

Yeah this is a good point. 

 

You see how long Baker Mayfield holds the ball, and that allowed the pass rush to finally get there. 

 

They won't be so lucky with Burrow. 

[Franco_92]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

OK, but I haven't vacuumed since Monday.

 

 

Not at all.

Just suggesting there is more interesting conversation in other places that might be closer to your standards.

This board is amazing, but like all other places, the game ends and a flood of new names you don't remember from all week tells you why your win sucks in a unique way that other good teams are capable of avoiding when they win their many close games. To a degree that makes you think we lost if you take in the overall volume. I think this string of success has made us a worse and dumber fanbase collectively. 

3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

All they do is see the highlights of opposing teams and win/loss, they don't see all the nitty gritty stuff like the Chiefs leading the Broncos by one possession all the way until 1:55 in the 4th quarter.

 

Or the Eagles going tit for tat with the Commanders and into OT.

 

Or the 49ers being up 27-17 in the 4th and letting the Rams hang around 27-20 until 1:49 left in the 4th.

 

 

 

 

 

Right, it's every week. I'm not in here saying the Bills are the best team ever, they need to seal the deal soon here or I'll be ready to move on too. But people just don't know what they're looking at, yet will talk to you like you're a dumb toddler for not being as angry as they are, and when they articulate, they expose how little ball they actually know.

[Simon]

Just now, Franco_92 said:

This board is amazing, but like all other places, the game ends and a flood of new names you don't remember from all week tells you why your win sucks in a unique way that other good teams are capable of avoiding when they win their many close games. To a degree that makes you think we lost if you take in the overall volume. I think this string of success has made us a worse and dumber fanbase collectively. 

 

We sound more like entitled asshats at times, that's for sure.

Imagine how bad we'll be if we ever actually win a Super Bowl. 

[Bermuda Triangle]

Just now, Franco_92 said:

This board is amazing, but like all other places, the game ends and a flood of new names you don't remember from all week tells you why your win sucks in a unique way that other good teams are capable of avoiding when they win their many close games. To a degree that makes you think we lost if you take in the overall volume. I think this string of success has made us a worse and dumber fanbase collectively. 

Please, bestow us with your knowledge and wisdom.

 

Least you could do is address the specific examples in the original post in this thread.

[Freddie's Dead]

My favorite, 3rd and goal on the one inch line.  Butt shove, nah, we line up in shotgun and run Murray for a 2 yard loss.  We come away empty handed, and damn near lost the game because of it.

Edited October 27, 2023 by Freddie's Dead

[What a Tuel]

Just now, Simon said:

 

We sound more like entitled asshats at times, that's for sure.

Imagine how bad we'll be if we ever actually win a Super Bowl. 

 

2 minutes ago, Franco_92 said:

Right, it's every week. I'm not in here saying the Bills are the best team ever, they need to seal the deal soon here or I'll be ready to move on too. But people just don't know what they're looking at, yet will talk to you like you're a dumb toddler for not being as angry as they are, and when they articulate, they expose how little ball they actually know.

 

If we ever won a Super Bowl, I don't think this board would continue without a daily "we haven't won a 2nd super bowl tear it all down" thread every week 😂

[Bermuda Triangle]

Just now, Freddie's Dead said:

My favorite, 2nd and goal on the one inch line.  Butt shove, nah, we line up in shotgun and run Murray for a 2 yard loss.  We come away empty handed, and damn near lost the game because of it.

It was 3rd goal, actually - but still an idiotic decision.  Same nonsense as in the NYG game.

[Franco_92]

Just now, Bermuda Triangle said:

Please, bestow us with your knowledge and wisdom.

 

Least you could do is address the specific examples in the original post in this thread.

I could make an identical list from any good team's one-score win this year. Easily. Trivially. Twice as long. The context isn't that the Bills were perfect, it's that this is NFL football, and there are very few NFL football games that don't look like this. And the Bills are historically overrepresented in the games that are as flawless as we demand - massive blowout victories. No team in history, or very few, have done that with the frequency of the Bills of these last 4 years. 39% of their games in this struggle-session of a season have been exactly that! 

[Bferra13]

30 minutes ago, Franco_92 said:

It is absolutely insane that Bills fans think there is something uniquely horrifying about the way their team wins games. It makes every place you can go to read about the Bills on the internet completely insufferable. 

 

Tonight is a game that looked EXACTLY like the VAST MAJORITY of games (especially Thursday games) between a good team and a decent team. This was an ARCHETYPE of an NFL football game. And your team won! ***** enjoy it! Holy *****! 

Ehhh not sure they are. They are in the bad pile for me. That's why this game was frustrating.

[Bermuda Triangle]

2 minutes ago, Franco_92 said:

I could make an identical list from any good team's one-score win this year. Easily. Trivially. Twice as long. The context isn't that the Bills were perfect, it's that this is NFL football, and there are very few NFL football games that don't look like this. And the Bills are historically overrepresented in the games that are as flawless as we demand - massive blowout victories. No team in history, or very few, have done that with the frequency of the Bills of these last 4 years. 39% of their games in this struggle-session of a season have been exactly that! 

Yes, I assumed you wouldn't care to address the specific examples I recited or repeated mistakes and poor decisions

 

Also, all-knowing one, what is 39% of 8 games?

Edited October 27, 2023 by Bermuda Triangle