The Knox injury unfortunately has changed this offense for the better

[FireChans]

It sucks that Knox is injured. I like him as a player.

 

But it’s clear that without Knox, we are no longer forcing 12 personnel, which has clearly been holding this offense back. 
 

Unfortuantelt, we may see the 12 return when Knox gets healthy because Dorsey is going to have to include him and Kincaid. But the biggest difference tonight was 11 personnel. Dorsey is still Dorsey. this team is just better at 11 as currently constructed.

[Warcodered]

Was it the 12 personnel or was it running an up tempo offense that let Allen have time to scan the defense and break it down?

 

We've seen the hurry up be effective when Knox was around in the last 3 weeks.

Edited October 27, 2023 by Warcodered

[Roundybout]

Just now, Warcodered said:

Was it the 12 personnel or was it running an up tempo offense that let Allen have time to scan the defense and break it down.

Well we couldn’t use 12 today. But today seemed way more uptempo. Josh was calling way more audibles and seemed to be really fired up 

[BillsFan130]

100 percent agreed

 

When the bills drafted Kincaid I was a bit nervous about 12 personnel as Josh likes throwing to WRs.

 

Time to roll with 11 and use Kincaid over Knox when Knox does return 

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Was it the 12 personnel or was it running an up tempo offense that let Allen have time to scan the defense and break it down.

I think it’s both.

 

When they were doing 12, they were doing a lot of subbing. Seemed like they were letting defences dictating terms as they matched with them.

 

With this 11/ no huddle, it seemed like it was “this is our offence, good luck stopping us”

[Milanos Milano]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Was it the 12 personnel or was it running an up tempo offense that let Allen have time to scan the defense and break it down?

 

We've seen the hurry up be effective when Knox was around in the last 3 weeks.

A combination of both. It’s clear as day though that Kincaid is the better route runner and better hands. He should be on the field either as a TE or slot WR at all times. 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

It sucks that Knox is injured. I like him as a player.

 

But it’s clear that without Knox, we are no longer forcing 12 personnel, which has clearly been holding this offense back. 
 

Unfortuantelt, we may see the 12 return when Knox gets healthy because Dorsey is going to have to include him and Kincaid. But the biggest difference tonight was 11 personnel. Dorsey is still Dorsey. this team is just better at 11 as currently constructed.

It wasn’t that much better in the end, I think it just felt like that because they got off to a better start. 
 

They had 3 tremendous opportunities to kill the game in the 4th and came up empty on all of those drives. 
 

Make no mistake, this offense still has big problems. 

[BillsPride12]

They were finally able to utilize Kincaid the way we all envisioned things when he was drafted.  This kid is a weapon.

[peterpan]

Kinkaid is our 2nd best threat.

 

shakir was great.

 

both guys got more time and targets with Knox out.  I don’t think that’s a coincidence 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

They only scored 24 points

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

It wasn’t that much better in the end, I think it just felt like that because they got off to a better start. 
 

They had 3 tremendous opportunities to kill the game in the 4th and came up empty on all of those drives. 
 

Make no mistake, this offense still has big problems. 

Getting off to a better start is hugely important lol, did you watch the last 3 weeks?

[boyst]

Whatever it was, whatever it is, the Bills offense looked great. 

[Milanos Milano]

Just now, WEATHER DOT COM said:

They only scored 24 points

Timid coach and turnover hurt us. 

[gobills404]

I think the best is a healthy mix of 11p and 12p after Knox comes back, but definitely favoring 11p. Knox is a good blocker and they should just have him catch those dump offs Kincaid was getting earlier in the season.

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

Just now, Araiza Curse said:

Timid coach and turnover hurt us. 

 

That also hurts us when 12 personnel is run. 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Getting off to a better start is hugely important lol, did you watch the last 3 weeks?

Sure, but then our last 3 drives just took the place of 1st quarter incompetence. 
 

A top offense on what’s supposed to be a SB contender has to kill the game on one of those drives. 
 

There’s still a lot wrong here. 

[SCBills]

Offense looked like they have that electric factor back with 11 and/or up-tempo.  
 

The stalled drives up 14 were frustrating, but on one of them we got absolutely screwed by the non-Offside call. 
 

Still .. they have to be more effective and not have these lulls. 
 

 

Edited October 27, 2023 by SCBills

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

Sure, but then our last 3 drives just took the place of 1st quarter incompetence. 
 

A top offense on what’s supposed to be a SB contender has to kill the game on one of those drives. 
 

There’s still a lot wrong here. 

That’s why I said Dorsey is still Dorsey.

 

We didn’t see the Bills put up 10 points through 55 minutes tonight. That’s an improvement.

[gobills404]

1 minute ago, WEATHER DOT COM said:

They only scored 24 points

The most points the Bucs have allowed this year is 25. This was a good game from the offense.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

1 minute ago, gobills404 said:

The most points the Bucs have allowed this year is 25. This was a good game from the offense.

Agree.

 

This offense was nowhere near good enough though to confirm it’s better with Knox on the bench. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

14 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Josh was calling way more audibles and seemed to be really fired up 

He should have called an audible to sneak it for a TD. Why in the world would he not override a hand off call to Murray there?

 

Allen has to know anything INSIDE the one yard line has to be a QB sneak.