TB / Buffalo Postgame thread

[RichRiderBills]

3 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

I am really curious about our DL rotation.  Von is working his way back, but Epenesa and Rousseau need to get more snaps at the expense of the likes of Floyd and Lawson.  I know we lost Daquan, but Phillips is hot garbage to begin with before even the dumb decisions.  I think it's affecting Oliver's play as well.  Before the trade deadline can Beane & Co. see if there is a 1T available for a reasonable price that can clog the middle.

 

Tired of mediocre RB's gashing us for first downs.  Mixon is not a mediocre running back.

 

Bills shut down the run. 78 yards and 40 of those yards were Mayfield flushed and the Godwin run. That's outstanding. 

 

Von still looks off, though he had that flash on a couple downs tonight, including that amazing almost leg tackle where Mayfield made an amazing play. 

 

Again, D line should have gotten 3-4 more sacks against a less tricky and slippery QB. Mayfield played uneven in the game but had some moments. 

 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I just call it like I see it. That includes the good and the bad. I saw a lot of good last night. 

 

The offense really looked good despite only scoring 25 points. 

 

I'm a little concerned about the defense. The Bills injuries are really hurting their overall effectiveness. Can you imagine how good this D would be with Tre, Jones, and Milano? Wow...

 

Beane really has to make a move to help the defense. I don't see how they can matchup against the better teams and our schedule gets a lot tougher now.

Edited October 27, 2023 by Gregg

[Low Positive]

6 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

I still don't get why the Bucks went for two. Mind Baffling. Seemed idiotic. 

The drunk Bucs fan in a crazy pimp outfit sitting next to me in Section 108 row 1 agrees with you. He started screaming “I hate you Todd Boles” right up until the moment that it worked. BTW, just how many times are the Bills going to tip a pass just to have it fall into a receiver’s hand?

[newcam2012]

6 hours ago, BillsFan619 said:

I agree, bro.

 

I rewatched some of the game with my son. There were literally like 6-7 things that happened in those final two drives where if one of those things went the Bills way, the outcome would’ve looked differently.

 

I was encouraged by the offense as well. They looked really good and played with a great pace. They can continue to build on this moving forward.

 

The boxscore doesn’t reveal how good we played. If one of those six or seven things go our way (which most times at least one of them would have), the end of the game would’ve revealed what really happened which is that we outplayed them by a pretty good amount.

 

Go Bills!

Especially when you take into account how bad the offense had been playing the last three games. 

 

I'm the ultimate critic here sometimes to a fault. No need to comment if that. 

 

I get people are a bit concerned or upset that the Bills didn't close out the game.

 

But damn they looked pretty damn good last night. They controlled the game, moved the ball around, and had a swagger in offense. They were focused and prepared. Dare I say they looked like the good Bills of the past few seasons. 

 

They won the game and for the most part dominated it. That's a huge improvement from what we had been seeing the last three games. I woke up being a happy Bills fan. 

 

 

[Dopey]

4 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

The drunk Bucs fan in a crazy pimp outfit sitting next to me in Section 108 row 1 agrees with you. He started screaming “I hate you Todd Boles” right up until the moment that it worked. BTW, just how many times are the Bills going to tip a pass just to have it fall into a receiver’s hand?

The TD before the 2 point conversion hit the db's helmet and evans still caught it. sh it happens. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just heard that with the new, faster paced offense, the Bills had 10 more Offensive plays last night than they've averaged over the last few games.

That is a full drive. That is the TD drive before half.

 

Take those 7 points off the Bills and now we're losing the game and it looks way more like the Giants/Jags games.

 

Dorsey/McD better not ignore this evidence and revert back to the slow-paced, 12 personnel BS.

[Heathcliff]

9 hours ago, Turbo44 said:

Ths team is fine if the coaching staff stays out of the way.  who/what position are we trading for?

LB

[Bermuda Triangle]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Just heard that with the new, faster paced offense, the Bills had 10 more Offensive plays last night than they've averaged over the last few games.

That is a full drive. That is the TD drive before half.

 

Take those 7 points off the Bills and now we're losing the game and it looks way more like the Giants/Jags games.

 

Dorsey/McD better not ignore this evidence and revert back to the slow-paced, 12 personnel BS.

Once the score got to 24-10, it seemed like the offense's tempo slowed down.  I wonder how quickly the plays were being run prior to the last TD, as opposed to thereafter.

[newcam2012]

6 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Beane really has to make a move to help the defense. I don't see how they can matchup against the better teams and our schedule gets a lot tougher now.

I'm not really advocating a defensive acquisition unless it's too good to be true. I just don't think that's the way to spend their resources. Even a single pick isn't likely to change the defense much. I don't want to give up the farm for Surtan. 

 

McD is just going to have to get creative and guys have to step up and improve. Most defenses even healthy can't stop KC or other dynamic playoff team offenses. The Bills just need a few big D plays, a key turnover, a key stop, etc...

 

I'd rather get another offensive weapon. Go down swinging with Allen and company. I believe this gives the Bills the optimal chance to win. I think at the right price DHop would be a nice pick up. Henry is an interesting thought. Sure would keep teams honest and maybe make the offense unstoppable. 

 

After last night's game, does Renfrow and or Judy become an afterthought? My head says yes.

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I'm not really advocating a defensive acquisition unless it's too good to be true. I just don't think that's the way to spend their resources. Even a single pick isn't likely to change the defense much. I don't want to give up the farm for Surtan. 

 

McD is just going to have to get creative and guys have to step up and improve. Most defenses even healthy can't stop KC or other dynamic playoff team offenses. The Bills just need a few big D plays, a key turnover, a key stop, etc...

 

I'd rather get another offensive weapon. Go down swinging with Allen and company. I believe this gives the Bills the optimal chance to win. I think at the right price DHop would be a nice pick up. Henry is an interesting thought. Sure would keep teams honest and maybe make the offense unstoppable. 

 

After last night's game, does Renfrow and or Judy become an afterthought? My head says yes.

 

If Kincaid can emerge as a solid #2 threat behind Diggs for Allen to go to then that will be a huge help for the offense. I can't argue your point about bringing more offensive help in, but I would still like to see Beane get some help for the defense. These next few days up to the deadline should be interesting.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Gregg said:

 

If Kincaid can emerge as a solid #2 threat behind Diggs for Allen to go to then that will be a huge help for the offense. I can't argue your point about bringing more offensive help in, but I would still like to see Beane get some help for the defense. These next few days up to the deadline should be interesting.

 

I've been firmly in the camp that there is "enough" talent on this Offense. They just havent been used correctly, or AT ALL. And last night just proved that.

 

Let Josh run. Get the ball to Shakir. Get the ball to Kincaid. Once Josh and the O get into a rhythm everyone plays better. Gabe makes catches he would otherwise drop. Etc.

 

I dont get why McD wants to "punish" young players with whatever ridiculous criteria he has to "earn" snaps, but it's obviously holding the team back. Shakir should be a known name around the league by now. USE THE GUYS WE HAVE, SEAN.

[PayDaBill$]

7 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

If Kincaid can emerge as a solid #2 threat behind Diggs for Allen to go to then that will be a huge help for the offense. I can't argue your point about bringing more offensive help in, but I would still like to see Beane get some help for the defense. These next few days up to the deadline should be interesting.

You don’t need a solid 2 wr you need to spread the ball around to the 3-4 targets you already have, last night was a great example of how well that works until they reverted back to Diggs-centric later in the second half.  Problems been, we don’t use the guys we have….

 

Short quick game moves the sticks.  Brady made a career out of it.

Edited October 27, 2023 by PayDaBill$

[DrDawkinstein]

"Josh Running" IS the added Offensive weapon we've been missing all season.

 

Opening that back up is like adding a pro-bowl player to the squad.

[PayDaBill$]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

"Josh Running" IS the added Offensive weapon we've been missing all season.

 

Opening that back up is like adding a pro-bowl player to the squad.

Selectively let JA run when he needs to be creative, ditch that stupid shotgun draw, run from under center & spread the ball to Cook Shakir Davis Diggs Kincaid & go up tempo.  Not rocket science.

 

On the defensive side if we can make a move before the deadline for a difference maker by all means go for it, if not we need to hope we get some guys back sooner than later. 
 

 

Edited October 27, 2023 by PayDaBill$

[DapperCam]

If the Bills can win the next 3 games in similarly uninspiring fashion, they will actually be in pretty good playoff position. It isn’t exactly murderer’s row coming up here.

[RiotAct]

41 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

I still don't get why the Bucks went for two. Mind Baffling. Seemed idiotic. 

yeah, Herbstreit’s explanation of “whether or not you convert, you know exactly what you need” didn’t make any sense.  You also know exactly what you need if you just kick the damn extra point… lol.

 

Worked out for them, though, thanks to some extreme ball luck on their end (for the second play in a row).

[Roundybout]

I really can’t believe how lucky the Bucs got last night, between Josh’s interception, the Evans touchdown boinking off Benford’s helmet, the 2-point conversion, Poyer dropping an easy pick-6….

[DasNootz]

23 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

The drunk Bucs fan in a crazy pimp outfit sitting next to me in Section 108 row 1 agrees with you. He started screaming “I hate you Todd Boles” right up until the moment that it worked. BTW, just how many times are the Bills going to tip a pass just to have it fall into a receiver’s hand?

I actually don't mind the 2pt conversion there on the road.    If you make it, you have a chance to win in regulation. I believe historically 2pt conversions are hitting around 48%.  

[newcam2012]

15 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

If Kincaid can emerge as a solid #2 threat behind Diggs for Allen to go to then that will be a huge help for the offense. I can't argue your point about bringing more offensive help in, but I would still like to see Beane get some help for the defense. These next few days up to the deadline should be interesting.

The defense is what it is with the significant injuries. The key is staying healthy and getting Von back to being elite. 

 

I don't see a defensive addition that makes the Bills much better in the playoffs. Do you? 

 

I'd rather go out and get DHop or Henry if the price is right. They can definitely be difference makers on the offense. 

 

 

15 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

You don’t need a solid 2 wr you need to spread the ball around to the 3-4 targets you already have, last night was a great example of how well that works until they reverted back to Diggs-centric later in the second half.  Problems been, we don’t use the guys we have….

 

Short quick game moves the sticks.  Brady made a career out of it.

Agree for the most part. However, a DHop would make the Bills passing game even more dynamic. It would change the landscape of the Bills offense for the good. I wouldn't say no to a proven WR with great hands and route running. 

[DrDawkinstein]

21 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

USE THE GUYS WE HAVE, SEAN.

 

I'll also add to this thought, I firmly believe Elam is a better player than the Bills have allowed him to be. And the coaching is doing more to ruin him than develop him.