Diggs interview eludes to issue...

[LABILLBACKER]

32 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

I'm at a point where I believe the Bills live and die by Allen so they might as well let him start calling plays. I think the Bills only hope to salvage the season is to go up tempo and just try and outscore every team.

They should've done this a long time ago. Up tempo, read the D and have 2 plays to call out of.

[QB Bills]

Is the issue that they need more allusive running backs?

[Nephilim17]

52 minutes ago, Chaos said:

What is the meme trying to allude too? 

I'm not sure; the answer eludes me.

 

Seriously, nice post by the OP. We're just pulling your leg.

[Mango]

59 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

This is what I mean about collaboration. If Dorsey is a d#ck he is not listing or seeing Diggs Josh verbal, non verbal input. Then entire team is screwed. 
 

you don’t think Diggs knows ways to exploit a D after 2 series?

 

I’ve lost all patience with McDorsey

This only makes any sense if you ignore everything else. 
 

Dorsey has been Allen’s QB coach since 2019. Allen also hand picked Dorsey to be his OC. The same way Allen has picked his own back QB’s, and the way we gave his college roommate a job on the practice squad. Hell, the new stadium will be the house that Allen built. When Josh talks the franchise listens. 

 

Maybe your train of thought makes sense to some. But a lot of these traits on offense have been pestering me for a few seasons going back to 2019. I’ve pounded the table that these are things he’ll have to get better at or it will affect his longevity in the league and the long term success of the franchise.

 

Always tossing the big play any distance and any down, not seeing open receivers, being late to throw, these are all things that have been brought up under Daboll too. But players can’t complete low percentage plays for eternity, especially at QB. 

 

[Since1981]

I guess it’s my perception that Daboll had better XYZ over McD and Dorsey (plans, influence, counterweight, spirit, ideas). Daboll probably told McClappy to go pound salt or told Josh to wake up at diff times. I just have a bad feeling now about McDorsey combo being ineffective for many behavioral reasons. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, Hebert19 said:

He went on about hurry up and what that does.  But it's the detail he goes into that's telling.  

 

He said hurry up allows josh to see what's there and adjust.  Recognize and change.   Eluding to we are operating too slow.  Or play is getting in too slow.  

 

We have been working down to single digits way more than in Josh's career on play clock.   

 

This gives the defense time to adjust to personnel but not us to adjust at the line.  May explain josh missing easy reads.  

 

Could dorsey be in his ear until 15 seconds like mcvay?   

 

Listen to interview.  This is what it sounds like diggs was getting at.  He needs more time at the line and less in huddle. 

I didn’t draw any of these conclusions from his interview. Just that I still love this guy and am glad they traded for him. He’s awesome. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Link?

[BADOLBILZ]

Yeah.

 

As I've said...........this offseason Beane addressed some specific areas where they were inefficient offensively in 2022 with role players designed to fix those situational weaknesses.........for example, Harris and Murray are both incredibly efficient at scoring from inside the 3 and the Bills struggled running near the goal line so the Bills wanted those specific players.

 

And they also drafted a TE in round 1 and have gone from very rarely using 12 personnel in 2022 to using it frequently.  

 

What this means?   They are substituting a lot.

 

Which allows the defense time to substitute and matchup to the Bills personnel and execute the game plan they drew up..........and then it also takes plays much deeper into the play clock and makes them a much more deliberate, time consuming offense.

 

It has had the seemingly unforeseen effect of leading to the Bills having longer drives but less of them.   Therefore less scoring chances.........which benefits lesser opponents like the Giants and Patriots.

 

The simplest solution for the Bills was to build an offense that had 11 players they could keep on the field for 8-10 straight plays if need be.........play uptempo and limit defensive substitutions and keep opponents on their heels.   

 

 

[PBF81]

1 hour ago, Mister Defense said:

 

 

I know, but this ship is sinking fast, so they may feel the need to take a chance.

 

I read somewhere there are 4 former coordinators on the team.  Brady, Shula?, who else??  Maybe that meant DCs and OCs?

 

 

Yeah, but I'm not sure a complete newbie like Brady is it.  

 

Shula (offense) and Washington & Holcomb (defense) were.  They're all Carolina products.  There's a reason why they're here in secondary and support roles.  

 

The way things appear to be shaping up if this is all true, then it sounds as if the every man for himself warning is about to go off.  

 

As bad as things are, relatively speaking, I don't think that firing Dorsey at this point will help.  And honestly, if that's going to happen and things get worse, Pegula has no choice but to clean house on the coaching staff side.  

 

I know a bunch of us have seen enough of Carolina's former coaching staff.  Most of them shouldn't even be here to begin with.  It's ridiculous to consider that they, of all possibilities, were the best people for their roles.  Perhaps that's the problem, which it is.  But then McD's the one that put that ragtag collection of the unaccomplished together.  

 

This thing gets worse with each passing day.  SMH  

 

 

1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said:

I hear you, but he had Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold as QBs and very little offensive talent with which to work.

 

LOL, sure, but that's hardly an endorsement either.  

 

At the rate things are going the word disarray comes to mind.  

 

 

[Old Coot]

Two points:

 

1. You can't just decide to go up tempo for the whole game unless you game planned it and your O players are conditioned to do it.  If you try quickly to sub in personnel packages the D gets to sub also.

 

2. When you go uptempo the D tends to play a base D because it cannot sub in personnel.  That probably simplifies Josh's reads.

[Simon]

35 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

The simplest solution for the Bills was to build an offense that had 11 players they could keep on the field for 8-10 straight plays if need be.........play uptempo and limit defensive substitutions and keep opponents on their heels.   

 

 

They can still do this with just about any set they want, and I agree they probably should be.

 

 

[Hebert19]

2 hours ago, Old Coot said:

Two points:

 

1. You can't just decide to go up tempo for the whole game unless you game planned it and your O players are conditioned to do it.  If you try quickly to sub in personnel packages the D gets to sub also.

 

2. When you go uptempo the D tends to play a base D because it cannot sub in personnel.  That probably simplifies Josh's reads.

Doesn't have to he up tempo entire game.  It needs more urgency.  They have said that in past interviews too.  

 

Get the play on quick and make the moves from there. Don't over think. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Why do we talk about Josh Allen like he’s a rookie?

 

He’s an all pro super star QB. What he wants the Bills will do. The offense is his.

Edited October 25, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[NoHuddleKelly12]

I’ll let my avatar name speak for itself…there’s never enough no huddle please! 🤓

[jlgarsh]

6 hours ago, Hebert19 said:

He went on about hurry up and what that does.  But it's the detail he goes into that's telling.  

 

He said hurry up allows josh to see what's there and adjust.  Recognize and change.   Eluding to we are operating too slow.  Or play is getting in too slow.  

 

We have been working down to single digits way more than in Josh's career on play clock.   

 

This gives the defense time to adjust to personnel but not us to adjust at the line.  May explain josh missing easy reads.  

 

Could dorsey be in his ear until 15 seconds like mcvay?   

 

Listen to interview.  This is what it sounds like diggs was getting at.  He needs more time at the line and less in huddle. 

Lol but the twitter experts said I was wrong when I said the offense runs more efficiently with Josh running no huddle. Diggs confirmed what is obvious, with more detailed explanation too. Go Bills!

[MJS]

Josh has taken the play clock down to single digits his entire career. That is not new.

[LyndonvilleBill]

I've said it in the past. Josh seems to play better when he is at the line with 18 seconds or more. Allows him to time to see the D better.  He seems more in control of the O when this happens. Also, when your at 10 or less, the D knows it's getting snapped quickly. No time for Josh or Morse to adjust if needed. Allows the D to T off.

 

I also think Josh is a little better playing it more backyard or offscript. Dorsey’s play calling may be long or too structured. Plus he seems like a control freak. You can't control Josh or Diggs, you gotta just let them be themselves and let them play.

[4merper4mer]

10 minutes ago, MJS said:

Josh has taken the play clock down to single digits his entire career. That is not new.

The difference now is that we can use that information to find another scapegoat.

[Dan Darragh]

8 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

Ken Dorsey doesn’t answer to Diggs and Allen. They can’t fire him. The man he answers to is a control freak.

Josh hired him, Josh can fire him.

[BobbyC81]

8 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

I’m surprised there were so many posts before anyone mentioned it.

 

The American education system 😩