Hebert19 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 He went on about hurry up and what that does. But it's the detail he goes into that's telling. He said hurry up allows josh to see what's there and adjust. Recognize and change. Eluding to we are operating too slow. Or play is getting in too slow. We have been working down to single digits way more than in Josh's career on play clock. This gives the defense time to adjust to personnel but not us to adjust at the line. May explain josh missing easy reads. Could dorsey be in his ear until 15 seconds like mcvay? Listen to interview. This is what it sounds like diggs was getting at. He needs more time at the line and less in huddle. 15 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: He went on about hurry up and what that does. But it's the detail he goes into that's telling. He said hurry up allows josh to see what's there and adjust. Recognize and change. Eluding to we are operating too slow. Or play is getting in too slow. We have been working down to single digits way more than in Josh's career on play clock. This gives the defense time to adjust to personnel but not us to adjust at the line. May explain josh missing easy reads. Could dorsey be in his ear until 15 seconds like mcvay? Listen to interview. This is what it sounds like diggs was getting at. He needs more time at the line and less in huddle. The last TD I swear Josh didn’t get the play he did the “I didn’t hear the play” gesture with his helmet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I guess a way to check is when do they go from the huddle to the line most often on the play clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Diggs isn't wrong. More uptempo pace and some more creative plays sure would be nice to see. Keeps D on their heels. 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Hopefully this pats game was our 2021 bucs game. Perhaps and awakening? I hope so. I know not all seasons run linear 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I'm at a point where I believe the Bills live and die by Allen so they might as well let him start calling plays. I think the Bills only hope to salvage the season is to go up tempo and just try and outscore every team. 6 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) This is what I mean about collaboration. If Dorsey is a d#ck he is not listing or seeing Diggs Josh verbal, non verbal input. Then entire team is screwed. you don’t think Diggs knows ways to exploit a D after 2 series? I’ve lost all patience with McDorsey Edited October 25, 2023 by Since1981 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Yup, but the clear problem now is that the problems are comprehensive. We, as fans, have been pointing to one clear and obvious problem after another. But that just scratches the surface of the problems, as there are all of the OTHER details that are faulty too, the things that are much harder for us to see as fans. This is why, despite conventional wisdom, I think that McDermott may do the unexpected and make the obviously needed change well before the season ends. It isn't just the big obvious things that are broken, it is the little, vital details too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Since1981 said: This is what I mean about collaboration. If Dorsey is a d#ck he is not listing or seeing Diggs Josh verbal, non verbal input. Then entire team is screwed. you don’t think Diggs knows ways to exploit a D after a quarter???? Ken Dorsey doesn’t answer to Diggs and Allen. They can’t fire him. The man he answers to is a control freak. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Ken Dorsey doesn’t answer to Diggs and Allen. They can’t fire him. The man he answers to is a control freak. Josh and Diggs can make it happen if they are pushed too far. Josh is the good cop, Diggs the bad cop. Make no mistake. McDorsey is toast if the two boys sit. Franchise risk if the good cop is pushed over the top Edited October 25, 2023 by Since1981 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: This is why, despite conventional wisdom, I think that McDermott may do the unexpected and make the obviously needed change well before the season ends. That's a little alarming. Brady would take over. His track record in the two years that he was the OC in Carolina is low-end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: He went on about hurry up and what that does. But it's the detail he goes into that's telling. He said hurry up allows josh to see what's there and adjust. Recognize and change. Eluding to we are operating too slow. Or play is getting in too slow. We have been working down to single digits way more than in Josh's career on play clock. This gives the defense time to adjust to personnel but not us to adjust at the line. May explain josh missing easy reads. Could dorsey be in his ear until 15 seconds like mcvay? Listen to interview. This is what it sounds like diggs was getting at. He needs more time at the line and less in huddle. 5 26 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, Freddie's Dead said: What is the meme trying to allude too? 3 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, PBF81 said: That's a little alarming. Brady would take over. His track record in the two years that he was the OC in Carolina is low-end. I know, but this ship is sinking fast, so they may feel the need to take a chance. I read somewhere there are 4 former coordinators on the team. Brady, Shula?, who else?? Maybe that meant DCs and OCs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chaos said: What is the meme trying to allude too? You get me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, PBF81 said: That's a little alarming. Brady would take over. His track record in the two years that he was the OC in Carolina is low-end. I hear you, but he had Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold as QBs and very little offensive talent with which to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 As I mentioned in a previous thread, while I don't want to go back to a full blown hurry up offense, playing with more tempo could help this offense. Get to the line, identify the personnel on the field, and have more time to identify what the defense is trying to do. It also keeps the guys on offense more focused and on their toes. Sometimes, if you are taking too much time in between plays, you can start dragging a bit....get into some lulls. Just playing with some sense of urgency might help keep guys focused and into a rhythm. Who knows.....maybe it won't work, but it can't get worse than the last few weeks without scoring in the first half. I wanted them to go to a more of an up tempo offense in the 2nd halves the last few weeks to try and jump start things, but they haven't. It's worth trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Elude vs allude. One means to dodge, or escape from, the other means to imply or suggest. #grammarpolice 6 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Ken Dorsey doesn’t answer to Diggs and Allen. They can’t fire him. The man he answers to is a control freak. This isn’t a company org as we know them. $258M man has a monster say. Steve Austin was only $6M man. We might not like it (see latest OC hire;) but let there be no doubt Diggs/Allen have veto power 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninCT Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 JA17 quoting my therapist, I'm sure many others who carry burdens, are extremely successful at something even if it's not being a bagillionaire qb but also super low of low, have heard this as well. this could take a minute for him to figure out, I had therapy for 3 months after breaking and it's not freaking easy. I'm no JA17 and a peon in comparison but in the little world i exist in it looks very similar and he's acting the same way... he will be better for it overall and i'm glad regardless if it matters that i care at all, that he got some help and i hope everyone here is glad he is getting help but i'm not sure it's understandable unless you know somebody personally or been through it. he has to figure this out for himself, it's good to have great people around you but ultimately it's his head, and only he can overcome it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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