Why the Bills don't care and neither should you

[FireChans]

12 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

A lot of people thought they were going to “turn on the gas” in the playoffs last year too…

 

 

Are people really unhappy with our 4-3 Bills?

[ddaryl]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

It doesn’t matter you say.  There’s time to improve.  There’s time to make changes.  There’s time to make trades.  We have no clue what this team is capable atm.  
 

is Milano out for the season?  Is Daquan out for the season?  You don’t know…..so you don’t know what this team is capable of if we make the playoffs.

 

So many couch experts.  

 

 

thats ok. You can have your feelings

 

IMO chances are slim to none and slim is packing their bags. I said I would make my call in mid October, so I did. Its my call and nobody elses. I stick by it

[Heavy Kevi]

10 hours ago, Hermes said:

I don't know who that is so I'll take it as a compliment.

 

I guess I should assume all of the players in the Bills locker room are as mentally and emotionally week as countless posters on the board (including you?). Any thought to the contrary are 'moronic and ill-conceived' 

 

I'm not going to pick on you or call you stupid like others here...

 

Honest question though: what have you seen that shows they aren't weak mentally? That's all I've seen for almost a year now. They don't handle adversity, not just not well, they don't handle it at all. Since GB last year it's a different team. You have to have seen that? No swagger. No killer instinct. Playing down to opponents. Josh struggling with easy throws or not making them.

 

I'm actually beginning to think the team is giving up on the coaching as well. Josh is less engaged and less prepared this year than recent years, and seems to be not doing the things he was finally getting good at pre-snap.

 

So I'm in general agreeance, and I posted as such yesterday; that they could go on a run late and have the talent to do so. But 3 losses already, and bad performances against bad teams... They need to pull it together QUICK

[Aussie Joe]

35 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Are people really unhappy with our 4-3 Bills?

I think expectations are being revised by some

 

Edited October 24, 2023 by Aussie Joe

[FireChans]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

I think expectations are being revised 

That was just me laughing at @eball.

 

sometimes, certain board members can provide some silver lining entertainment in an otherwise disappointing season.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

12 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

A lot of people thought they were going to “turn on the gas” in the playoffs last year too…

 

 

They did.  Extinguished the pilot light, turned on the gas, and stuck their collective heads in the oven.

[MJS]

I don't think it is a lack of caring. It is injuries, a lack of execution, and a team with a lot of high variance players.

 

A lot of things seems disjointed, like they need to get their fundamentals down. Kind of too late for that with how little they are actually allowed to practice during the season. Hopefully they can get those things ironed out.

[TampaBillsJunkie]

Disagree. Kinks need to get worked on in practice. Every game counts, especially division games.  No wants to go on the road for every playoff game. that's not the path to the Super Bowl.

[Hermes]

50 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said:

 

I'm not going to pick on you or call you stupid like others here...

 

Honest question though: what have you seen that shows they aren't weak mentally? That's all I've seen for almost a year now. They don't handle adversity, not just not well, they don't handle it at all. Since GB last year it's a different team. You have to have seen that? No swagger. No killer instinct. Playing down to opponents. Josh struggling with easy throws or not making them.

 

I'm actually beginning to think the team is giving up on the coaching as well. Josh is less engaged and less prepared this year than recent years, and seems to be not doing the things he was finally getting good at pre-snap.

 

So I'm in general agreeance, and I posted as such yesterday; that they could go on a run late and have the talent to do so. But 3 losses already, and bad performances against bad teams... They need to pull it together QUICK

If the 2008 Giants can win against the Patriots, it's fair to say that as long as you're in can make some magic happen.  The Bills have battled it out for the 1st seed the past few years and maybe they collectively took a less aggressive approach to stacking and are focusing on implementing different gameplans in order to be able to attack and control the game in different ways. The players know this and are only working specific sets, formations, and plays.  

 

Late in the year, being multiple and having the ability to shift gears, so to speak, allows you to take a varied and stratecally beneficial approach to in game situations. (I.e the Bills have the ball with 7 minutes left to go in the game, they can run a 7 minute drive to win. Or 4 minutes. Maybe your defense gets a turn over and you want to attack now. Or slow ball it to get the defense recovered after a long opposing drive)

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Well OP, your thoughts are a better alternative than what lots of us fear, so that would be great if true! 

[90sBills]

10 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

So it’s kinda like Tiger Woods’ swing changes in the 1998-99 time frame.  We can expect an amazing flourish in January and February, much like Tiger in 2000

Tiger won Majors at that point so not the same. It’s more like Phil with whatever he was doing before his first major win. 

7 hours ago, Hermes said:

Maybe in the minds of some of the players, yes. Could be what the meetings about? Idk, never know.  You're talking about guys with huge egos who've been playing at one of the highest levels in the sport. I'm sure Mac Jones really scared them into being the most focused they could be for that game. 

The fact that they have huge egos is why they should’ve been focused since they haven’t won anything noteworthy in their professional careers. You can tell Diggs wants it so badly every game. He knows what’s at stake. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

8 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

No difference? The Patriots averaged 12 points on O, the WORST O in the NFL. They scored 29 against the Bills.  Jones only had pressure on him (per bleacher report) 22% of his drop backs while Allen had it 52% of his drop backs. 
 

Now does the loss mean the Bills are doomed? Heck No! It does mean they need to fix some things before they hit the truly hard part of their schedule. 
 

the next 4 games are Bucs, Bengals, Chargers, Jets. They need go 3-1 at least, because the Next 4 are Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, and Chargers. That’s a tough stretch right there. All 4 will be tough on any Defense. 

Everyone is talking about the Minnesota-San Fran game as a comparison to the Buffalo-New England game.  The game last night was a great game.  Both teams competed hard with Minnesota getting the big pick on Purdy at the end.  I thought Kirk Cousins was a baller last night standing strong in the face of a strong pass rush and hitting everything down the field.  Purdy looked good as well.  But not as good as Cousins.  Even thought the 49ers lost, they played with much better effort then the Bills did at New England.

 

The Bills-Pats game was hard to watch coming off the Giants-Bills game.  And the stinker in London.  The season certainly isn't over.  But the team does not have a look of a champion.  Can they get it turned around?  Sure.  Is it likely?  We shall see in the next two weeks.  We should beat the Bucs by 30+ points.  Their offense is terrible.  But the real test will be Cincinnati.  Joe Burrow is one cool customer.  And they have a talented roster, regardless of their record.  I think their coaching is better then ours.  

 

This coaching staff should not have goodwill from our fanbase.  McDermott led us to the playoffs to break the draught in 2017.  So what!!  The offensive game plan that day was awful.  We scored 3 points.  We have disappointed throughout the playoffs under this regime.  McDermott has taken no ownership and accountability for the 13 second fiasco.  The players will never forget that.  And neither will the fans.  That being said, we can turn things around.  But there certainly needs to be some emotion shown by everyone in the Bills organization (besides Stefan Diggs) come Thursday night.  The vibe of the team since stepping on the field in London has been off.  That needs to change come Thursday night.  And it had better be a whole lot different when we play Cinci next week.  If not, you have to really question whether the McDermott regime has run its course.  

[Comebackkid]

So the offense has been a cluster ***** of bad ideas for the sake of getting better....    scratching my head...i would think there would be a better option.  

[theRalph]

On 10/24/2023 at 6:59 AM, HamSandwhich said:

This feels like after the last time we lost a game against the Pats (wind game), everyone thought it was over. Long season, people need to take a chill pill. Still just a game out of 1st. Perspective. 

  Ya, and it was even worse by halftime of the following game in Tampa. Then it all changed. Well, here we go again.

[Hermes]

On 10/25/2023 at 12:02 AM, Comebackkid said:

So the offense has been a cluster ***** of bad ideas for the sake of getting better....    scratching my head...i would think there would be a better option.  

I mean the Bills could pull out all the stops against the Pats or they could save the sauce for the upcoming stretch. Why would you put plays on tape for the Chiefs, Bengals, Eagles, etc. When the team is capable of winning games with a gameplan designed to "fail forward".  Which, in essence, is about working different concepts in order that the offense can do more later in the season when the games mean more and the stakes are higher.  Despite what many on here believe,  these guys at the top are all incredibly smart. And to say that there aren't varying levels of long and short term strategies that teams implement (across games, months, a season, longer) is asinine. 

[Buckets]

On 10/24/2023 at 10:40 AM, FireChans said:

Are people really unhappy with our 4-3 Bills?

I am! It's the lackadaisical effort we seem to have been putting on the field.

[RiotAct]

On 10/24/2023 at 7:30 AM, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'm not going to worry because reality is what reality is and this team just isn't playing good ball now.  But to make the playoffs a team will need 10, possibly 11 wins.  Looking at the rest of the schedule except for the home games against Denver and New England which gets them to 6, where are the other 4 or 5 wins coming from which are needed to get a wildcard spot in the playoffs?

 

They play the way they've been playing you can count Bengals, Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, and Dolphins as losses.  That's 3 + 5 losses and at best a 9-8 record.  Not good enough. 

 

10/26 BUCCANEERS

11/05 @ Bengals

11/13 BRONCOS

11/19 JETS

11/26 @ Eagles

12/10 @ Chiefs

12/17 COWBOYS

12/23 @ Chargers

12/31 PATRIOTS

01/07 @ Dolphins

from teams that have an off day when we play them, and/or teams where we actually string together a solid 60-minute effort.

 

I can see us getting to 11 wins easily, however it also wouldn’t shock me anymore at this point if we finished 8-9.

[Comebackkid]

7 hours ago, Hermes said:

I mean the Bills could pull out all the stops against the Pats or they could save the sauce for the upcoming stretch. Why would you put plays on tape for the Chiefs, Bengals, Eagles, etc. When the team is capable of winning games with a gameplan designed to "fail forward".  Which, in essence, is about working different concepts in order that the offense can do more later in the season when the games mean more and the stakes are higher.  Despite what many on here believe,  these guys at the top are all incredibly smart. And to say that there aren't varying levels of long and short term strategies that teams implement (across games, months, a season, longer) is asinine. 

I can see some of your point.  However,   2 points of my own. 

If you want to experiment, do it after the game is locked down. 

 

Take wins when you can get them.   No guarantee your going to win harder games later in the year

[billsintaiwan]

I wonder if patriots fans thought it was the end of the world when Sam Adams scored a TD and we shut them out?

 

Things happen. Our injuries are really something.

 

But dead yet we are not.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

17 minutes ago, billsintaiwan said:

I wonder if patriots fans thought it was the end of the world when Sam Adams scored a TD and we shut them out?

 

Things happen. Our injuries are really something.

 

But dead yet we are not.

A little I'm hurt but not yet slain.

 

Tbh if we somehow gave Allen a true top-20 target to pair with Diggs then 17 probably wakes up and the three of them win us a championship.

 

Just once in his life I'd like to see Allen given a chance to try it, anyways.