Don Otreply Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 12 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: If my name were Terry Pegula, this is what I would do this offseason: Fire Sean McDermott Keep Brandon Beane Hire Ben Johnson (you now have arguably the best young offensive mind in the league for Josh Allen's prime and you'll never have to worry about losing your offensive coordinator) Then, if my name were Brandon Beane, this is what I would do: Let go (via cut or trade) Von Miller, Tre'Davious White, and Jordan Poyer, taking all the bad cap medicine necessary (yes, I know it's a lot, but stick with me); possibly add Dawson Knox to this list if he's not excited about a backup role Re-sign A.J. Epenesa and DaQuan Jones; let every other major free agent go, including Gabe Davis and Micah Hyde Leverage your 10+ picks (probably even more after trades) to maneuver and get the best WR available, then heavily prioritize defensive line and offensive line picks Fill in the gaps at non-premium positions in free agency. Offense built around Allen, a dominant line, Cook, Diggs, Kincaid, and the future WR1 you drafted. Defense built around a dominant line, Milano and Bernard, and a young secondary. Bills are suddenly a young team but still scoring a lot of points and the future is looking exceptionally bright. With the old guard gone, you can grow with your young team. You'll probably even make the playoffs in year 1. Allen is going to be reinvigorated. Who knows, it might even go as well as it did for the Chiefs last year when they went with a youth movement. I'm willing to bet my plan is better than what they will get by keeping McDermott. Reminder: Sean McDermott traded Patrick Mahomes to the Chiefs before Brandon Beane got here. Other reminders: Every coach/QB combo in NFL history that has won a Super Bowl has done so within their first 5 years together. McDermott and Allen are in year 6 and things seem to be falling apart. It seems that things have grown stale and a change is needed. No player has ever won the Super Bowl with three different teams (Von Miller), unless you count Matt Millen who was inactive for his win with the Redskins. If they could pull this off, it certainly wouldn’t hurt and likely help with the team’s current malaise. 5 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Johnson is on the short list for a HC stint already. One season with Buffalo and a playoff berth? He’d be gone before he learned his way around OBD. Johnson would be theBills HC in the op’s scenario, 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 12 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: If my name were Terry Pegula, this is what I would do this offseason: Fire Sean McDermott Keep Brandon Beane Hire Ben Johnson (you now have arguably the best young offensive mind in the league for Josh Allen's prime and you'll never have to worry about losing your offensive coordinator) Then, if my name were Brandon Beane, this is what I would do: Let go (via cut or trade) Von Miller, Tre'Davious White, and Jordan Poyer, taking all the bad cap medicine necessary (yes, I know it's a lot, but stick with me); possibly add Dawson Knox to this list if he's not excited about a backup role Re-sign A.J. Epenesa and DaQuan Jones; let every other major free agent go, including Gabe Davis and Micah Hyde Leverage your 10+ picks (probably even more after trades) to maneuver and get the best WR available, then heavily prioritize defensive line and offensive line picks Fill in the gaps at non-premium positions in free agency. Offense built around Allen, a dominant line, Cook, Diggs, Kincaid, and the future WR1 you drafted. Defense built around a dominant line, Milano and Bernard, and a young secondary. Bills are suddenly a young team but still scoring a lot of points and the future is looking exceptionally bright. With the old guard gone, you can grow with your young team. You'll probably even make the playoffs in year 1. Allen is going to be reinvigorated. Who knows, it might even go as well as it did for the Chiefs last year when they went with a youth movement. I'm willing to bet my plan is better than what they will get by keeping McDermott. Reminder: Sean McDermott traded Patrick Mahomes to the Chiefs before Brandon Beane got here. Other reminders: Every coach/QB combo in NFL history that has won a Super Bowl has done so within their first 5 years together. McDermott and Allen are in year 6 and things seem to be falling apart. It seems that things have grown stale and a change is needed. No player has ever won the Super Bowl with three different teams (Von Miller), unless you count Matt Millen who was inactive for his win with the Redskins. Why do you put all the blame on McD and none on Beane? Part of your plan to fix the team is to build a dominant offensive line. Beane's been here a while and hasn't done that. You would think it'd be a matter of urgency since we have a great QB. But even great QBs need time to throw. Receivers need time to get open. And a passing game works best when there's a complimentary running game which requires an OL to open holes. Finally, a good OL keeps your quarter-billion-dollar quarterback healthy. Beane's failure to effectively prioritize the OL is concerning. But that's not his only failure. Draft picks have been wasted. The splashy $100 million on Von has mostly been wasted thus far (we could have used that money on an OL). The talent in the secondary is fading as the stars get older and more injury prone... I'm not sure why people demand McD to give us a SB performance when Beane hasn't given him a SB roster. Your plan, by the way, is a fan's plan, not a realistic one. For example, every GM wants to build a dominant OL and DL and then the uncertainties of the draft and the limitations of the cap slap them in the face. Building an SB championship team is easier said than done. Quote
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 Nothing as dramatic as some of us want is going to be done. Massive upheaval is not in the cards for a team that has this kind of roster. An nfl friend of mine has pretty good knowledge that the Bills are working to get a receiver before the trade deadline. Price likely to be a fourth or fifth rounder. He would not tell me the teams involved but the players are known entities still on rookie deals. I'm guessing Denver, Washington, or Vegas. I think all three of these teams are on the verge of having a fire sale to go into a rebuild. This does make some sense, if they have concluded that Davis is not going to be kept and neither Sherfield nor Hardy are working out. The only names that make some sense for me are Jeudy, Dotson, or Renfrow. If it doesn't happen, I believe it will be because the asking price got too high with other teams in the mix. I also expect them to bring in another bigger DT to rotate with Phillips. When Phillips was out of the game, the other guys were getting blown off the ball. Ford and Settle can't consistently get penetration or hold their position and keep the linebackers clean. This is a big problem. This could be another trade or a raid on a practice squad. 1 Quote
DeltaDigital Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: Ultimately there Beane's choices, the Elam & Basham picks are two of the worse and the Knox extension at 14-15 mllion is just stupid. If this season goes bad then I would like to see Pegula fire either one, I would prefer McDermott be let go and hire an offensive guy. You win in this league scoring and Sean is living in the Stone Age thinking caveman football can win you a title. I still have not got over the worse coaching display in NFL playoff history (13secs). BAH BAH BAH.... DONNNNT forget Cody Ford.... Quote
shane nelson Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 One of the more logical post that I have seen with both an action and plan. Hopefully Terry reads this page lol Quote
Teddy KGB Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 9 hours ago, John from Riverside said: This board after a loss goes full special needs you should check out the last 3 games before bringing this 💩💩💩 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 If I was T-Pegs I would take a bath filled with $100 bills, while exotic dancers did the Hokey Pokey Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 11 hours ago, GunnerBill said: There is no world in which I'd fire McDermott and keep Beane and I think there is like less than a 5% chance that happens in reality too. They are joined at the hip in their own minds and based on the fact that he always coordinates their contracts likely in Terry's too. Gunner's 100% on this. One goes, they both go. Quote
Low Positive Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Gunner's 100% on this. One goes, they both go. Yep. McDermott more or less hired Beane. Quote
Gregg Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Gunner's 100% on this. One goes, they both go. Not really. Terry owns the team, so he has final say. If he wants to clean house and fire both of them then he will. If he decides to fire one but keep the other, then he will do that as well. There is no law or rule that says they both have to be fired at the same time. Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gregg said: Not really. Terry owns the team, so he has final say. If he wants to clean house and fire both of them then he will. If he decides to fire one but keep the other, then he will do that as well. There is no law or rule that says they both have to be fired at the same time. No but the reality is Terry sees them as joined at the hip too. Nobody you speak to who has any knowledge of the inner workings of the team can see a way it is one without the other. Of course it is technically possible. But it doesn't really reflect the reality. I'd be stunned personally. Edited October 24, 2023 by GunnerBill 2 Quote
par73 Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 16 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: What are we keeping Beane for ? I think they are joined at the hip, anyway-- they both stay, or both go. Unless the wheels come off completely (may not be far from happening), I think they both stay, unfortunately. Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 Idk why, but the title led me to believe it was going to be 1 simple thing. If my thumb has to swipe more than once, I lose interest. Quote
Beast Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) Yes, hire Ben Johnson! I always screamed about the Bills should have hired Josh McDaniel when they had the chance and I obviously was correct with that analysis. Don’t screw the pooch twice! Edited October 24, 2023 by Beast Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 I would laugh so hard if Bills stupidly fired McDermott then hired another defensive minded HC. Dump Dorsey, pay a top flight OC whatever they want. 2 minutes ago, Beast said: Yes, hire Ben Johnson! I always screamed about the Bills should have hired Josh McDaniel when they had the chance and I obviously was correct with that analysis. Don’t screw the pooch twice! It’s been 410+ days since Miami beat a team with a winning record. Quote
BillsFanSD Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 13 hours ago, John from Riverside said: This board after a loss goes full special needs I'm sorry man, but this is a very bad take. The Bills have lost two of three and should have lost three of three, all against grossly inferior opposition. And we played like dog**** in all three games. We are probably missing the playoffs in one of Josh Allen's prime seasons. FOH with this head-in-the-sand stuff. Quote
Beast Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I would laugh so hard if Bills stupidly fired McDermott then hired another defensive minded HC. Dump Dorsey, pay a top flight OC whatever they want. It’s been 410+ days since Miami beat a team with a winning record. I forgot the S on McDaniel. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Beast said: I forgot the S on McDaniel. And I misread your post! My bad! Quote
Unforgiven Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 ....they will do nothing /end thread Quote
BuffaloButt Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 20 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: If my name were Terry Pegula, this is what I would do this offseason: Fire Sean McDermott Keep Brandon Beane Hire Ben Johnson (you now have arguably the best young offensive mind in the league for Josh Allen's prime and you'll never have to worry about losing your offensive coordinator) Then, if my name were Brandon Beane, this is what I would do: Let go (via cut or trade) Von Miller, Tre'Davious White, and Jordan Poyer, taking all the bad cap medicine necessary (yes, I know it's a lot, but stick with me); possibly add Dawson Knox to this list if he's not excited about a backup role Re-sign A.J. Epenesa and DaQuan Jones; let every other major free agent go, including Gabe Davis and Micah Hyde Leverage your 10+ picks (probably even more after trades) to maneuver and get the best WR available, then heavily prioritize defensive line and offensive line picks Fill in the gaps at non-premium positions in free agency. Offense built around Allen, a dominant line, Cook, Diggs, Kincaid, and the future WR1 you drafted. Defense built around a dominant line, Milano and Bernard, and a young secondary. Bills are suddenly a young team but still scoring a lot of points and the future is looking exceptionally bright. With the old guard gone, you can grow with your young team. You'll probably even make the playoffs in year 1. Allen is going to be reinvigorated. Who knows, it might even go as well as it did for the Chiefs last year when they went with a youth movement. I'm willing to bet my plan is better than what they will get by keeping McDermott. Reminder: Sean McDermott traded Patrick Mahomes to the Chiefs before Brandon Beane got here. Other reminders: Every coach/QB combo in NFL history that has won a Super Bowl has done so within their first 5 years together. McDermott and Allen are in year 6 and things seem to be falling apart. It seems that things have grown stale and a change is needed. No player has ever won the Super Bowl with three different teams (Von Miller), unless you count Matt Millen who was inactive for his win with the Redskins. I think your plan is sound but they're not going to fire McD, he just signed an extension and we're stuck for many more years of him and the decline of the O. Fire Dorsey, that could possibly happen. Quote
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