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On 10/23/2023 at 6:10 PM, MJS said:

He has been playing poorly, hasn't he?

 

From what I've seen, he's the same guy he's always been.

So, yes.

 

 

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On 10/23/2023 at 6:08 PM, Warriorspikes51 said:

He's not an upgrade from Benford or Jackson 

That may well be true, but Benford and Jackson aren’t much, if any, of an upgrade over Wallace, either. 

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Wake me up when Beane brings in anyone meaningful, who can give us energy or be more talented than the in house replacements for our injured defenders or an underachieving starter. He’s made one trade deadline deal that actually helped last year with Hines. That’s been his only deadline transaction in 5 years. I’m not optimistic.

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33 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

From what I've seen, he's the same guy he's always been.

So, yes.

 

 

I wouldnt say he was ever a superstar but he was more than serviceable here for a few years.    I think they got a cheaper version of him in the draft in Dane Jackson, as such they let him walk in Free Agency.   That said, I think he reached his ceiling here and is struggling in Pittsburgh right now.

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On 10/23/2023 at 5:46 PM, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

They've been ramping up Joey Porter Jr. to take over that spot. And although Wallace started yesterday, Porter received more snaps than him yesterday for the first time.

 

Fans in Pittsburgh are starting to turn on Wallace (much like we did). If they feel their 4th CB can take on the role of 3rd, he may be expendable to them with Patrick Peterson and Joey Porter Jr. as starters.

 

https://stillcurtain.com/posts/steelers-levi-wallace-shows-why-most-unplayable-cornerback-in-nfl-01hdcmdtj3z5

Good, I got Frank from Aliquippa on the line and I'm ready to deal

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3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I wouldnt say he was ever a superstar but he was more than serviceable here for a few years.    I think they got a cheaper version of him in the draft in Dane Jackson, as such they let him walk in Free Agency.   That said, I think he reached his ceiling here and is struggling in Pittsburgh right now.

 

Yes, he did. And don't get me wrong - I'm not looking at him as some sort of savior. 

 

But we're over here signing Josh Norman. Tre's hurt and Elam has been a player they prefer not to have on the field. If something happens to Benford or Jackson, we're relying on him and/or Ja'Marcus Ingram. 

 

What Levi provided for us in the past is about the best you can hope for right now. Especially with a regime that (at the very least on the Defensive side of the ball) feels that learning the playbook midseason is futile and leans EXTREMELY heavy towards plug and play players who have experience in the system.

 

Wallace would give us a 3rd Outside CB who is at least serviceable in our system. Hopefully to only provide more in relief, but (at least slightly) better insurance in the event of another injury. Not every move is made to upgrade a starting position, way more moves are done for depth and insurance.

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There is no way the Steelers would trade a starting CB when they are currently in a playoff position. Even if they think he’ll be depth/first off the bench they won’t trade him.

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3 hours ago, DapperCam said:

There is no way the Steelers would trade a starting CB when they are currently in a playoff position. Even if they think he’ll be depth/first off the bench they won’t trade him.

 

Joey Porter Jr. was drafted to take over his starting position and he's catching on fast. Levi started the last game, but Porter ended up taking more snaps than him.

 

If they feel comfortable with the depth behind Peterson and Porter to step up to the 3rd and 4th spots - he may be able to be had for a pick. Some people covering the team have thought the same thing:

 

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2023/10/25/23931240/4-perfect-trades-for-the-steelers-to-make-before-the-deadline-dan-moore-donte-jackson

 

https://atozsports.com/pittsburgh/steelers-trade-rumors-cb-levi-wallace/

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How have we gone this far without mentioning that the Steelers might be good? How are the 4-2 Steelers already selling their CB depth? I don't hate it in a void, but that division is the true meat grinder division in football right now. I don't see them getting rid of their CB depth while everybody waits for potential QB cicada Joe Burrow to wake up. Plus Lamar. Is there some unhappiness that I'm unaware of? Why would the Steelers be shopping him?

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That is not the worst idea.

 

We can go that way. That would seem to be somewhat realistic. Or, we can just wait until April 24 so McDermott can devote the entire draft to CBs and safeties (both seemingly apparent needs). Trading up to do so is fine too if he deems it necessary. 

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13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Yes, he did. And don't get me wrong - I'm not looking at him as some sort of savior. 

 

But we're over here signing Josh Norman. Tre's hurt and Elam has been a player they prefer not to have on the field. If something happens to Benford or Jackson, we're relying on him and/or Ja'Marcus Ingram. 

 

What Levi provided for us in the past is about the best you can hope for right now. Especially with a regime that (at the very least on the Defensive side of the ball) feels that learning the playbook midseason is futile and leans EXTREMELY heavy towards plug and play players who have experience in the system.

 

Wallace would give us a 3rd Outside CB who is at least serviceable in our system. Hopefully to only provide more in relief, but (at least slightly) better insurance in the event of another injury. Not every move is made to upgrade a starting position, way more moves are done for depth and insurance.

Agree.  I think he has played poorly this year for the Steelers but I also think he is miscast in Austin's 3-4 attacking defense.   He is a zone corner through and through.  He isnt going to be a world beater playing in a man heavy defense.

 

The only hesitance I'd have with Levi is giving up a pick for a player on an expiring contract. 

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