Dawson Knox - wrist surgery

[TheyCallMeAndy]

4 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

I'm not turning on him, I've always thought he has poor technique catching the ball. 

 His new contract is 13 per for the next 4 years, laughable for his talent set. He is avg at best and benefits from Allen being his qb, same as Davis. Let's hope the Bills don't re-sign him to a ridiculous contract as well.

Average doesn’t matter.

 

6.4 this year (mid-teens, sorry can’t recall the exact ranking)

14.4 next year (I think that’s 10 as of now, that’ll drop next free agency)

Then an opt out clause.

15.4m

15.9m

I know those numbers sound high, like “omg that’s top TE money.” It’s not, it’ll likely be top 10-14 TE money if he doesn’t restructure. I love Knox as Robin to Kincaid’s Batman. 

[Drew21PA]

Here come all the players of pretenders going to IR

 

ahhhh I remember those times 

[juno999]

10 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I'm down on Knox too but losing him is a huge blow. People who think we will be better are crazy. Knox is the most athletic TE the Bills have probably ever had.  Kincaid is in no way capable of being TE#1 now and maybe never. 

That said this is an opportunity to go air raid and just use the run to keep teams honest.  If they want to run they will need to use Bates as a blocking TE.

They've been using David Edwards 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Just now, Drew21PA said:

Here come all the players of pretenders going to IR

 

ahhhh I remember those times 

It was reported 2 weeks ago that his wrist was in a soft cast, and you can clearly see his play impacted.

 

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

It is sad that the perception that your $15 million per year TE being out opens up the offense,  but it's true

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

https://x.com/MattParrino/status/1716560430116581771?s=20

 

I ain’t mad

Damn...now McDermott and Dorsey are forced to use the better TE on more than short routes 

[OZBILLS]

Oh well.

[Turk71]

3 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I'm down on Knox too but losing him is a huge blow. People who think we will be better are crazy. Knox is the most athletic TE the Bills have probably ever had.  Kincaid is in no way capable of being TE#1 now and maybe never. 

What???

 Kincaid ceiling is so far beyond Knox it is not even close. Kincaid will thrive with more targets, I think they haven't targeted him enough and hopefully that is about to change.

 

 

[The Wiz]

24 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I'm down on Knox too but losing him is a huge blow. People who think we will be better are crazy. Knox is the most athletic TE the Bills have probably ever had.  Kincaid is in no way capable of being TE#1 now and maybe never. 

That said this is an opportunity to go air raid and just use the run to keep teams honest.  If they want to run they will need to use Bates as a blocking TE.

He doesn't have to be Knox is the thing.  Run blocking isn't why we drafted him.  Knox is both an average/good run blocker and TE.

 

Kincaid can be a great TE but is a bad/average run blocker.

Switch to 11 personnel and use him off the line.  That's what the offense has been missing.  Someone open over the middle.  Whether it be him or harty or sherfield.

 

More receivers is better when your QB is Allen.

Edited October 23, 2023 by The Wiz

[MasterStrategist]

17 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Average doesn’t matter.

 

6.4 this year (mid-teens, sorry can’t recall the exact ranking)

14.4 next year (I think that’s 10 as of now, that’ll drop next free agency)

Then an opt out clause.

15.4m

15.9m

I know those numbers sound high, like “omg that’s top TE money.” It’s not, it’ll likely be top 10-14 TE money if he doesn’t restructure. I love Knox as Robin to Kincaid’s Batman. 

Up to this point, that contract has been goof.

 

But next year is the major tipping point.  As you said, $14.4m 2024 cap hit (that's currently 6th highest slotted for 2024 for a TE).  

 

We won't be restructuring his deal/kicking more $s down the road.  We will play out his 2024 year, then he'll likely be cut in 2025.

 

Kincaid waiting in the wings, no reason to defer a cap problem. Beane will be making alot of "retooling"/cap casualties between 2024 and 2025.  

 

Knox likely done for 2023, he will have 1 more year as a Bill.  Hopefully gets ready for a monster season to justify that cap hit.

[SCBills]

44 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I'm down on Knox too but losing him is a huge blow. People who think we will be better are crazy. Knox is the most athletic TE the Bills have probably ever had.  Kincaid is in no way capable of being TE#1 now and maybe never. 

That said this is an opportunity to go air raid and just use the run to keep teams honest.  If they want to run they will need to use Bates as a blocking TE.

What a bizarre thing to say…

 

 

Edited October 24, 2023 by SCBills

[Nineforty]

2 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

paging Lee Smith...

I waded through pages just hoping this joke was made. And if not, to make it myself. 

 

Thank you haha

[RyanC883]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I've mentioned this before but he has a broken bone, plus torn ligament & cartilage. I was surprised he has been playing at all.

 

Also this might sound callous but I take this as a positive. We need undependable players to stay off the field. Kincaid and Morris catch the ball.

 

why were they playing him with that?   could that lead to drops??   just maddening injury management by McD. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

A return to 11 

[Since1981]

It’s interesting to me on the drop(s) and this announcement. I always wonder when I see bad performances (see Beasley broken leg in playoff). Some injuries are quiet. I keep wondering about 17 ‘throw shoulder’ and all the overthrows…y’all don’t get X-rays for a healthy body parts…

[pigpen65]

How is Morris? 

[Nephilim17]

If they're doing his wrist, can they fix his hands while they're there?

I kid. Mostly.

[BillsFan130]

3 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

how.  They want to run the ball and play more physical upfront with two tight ends.  They spent the entire offseason working on it.

 

Now they are without the veteran who has been in every situation possible.   

 

I just cant see how this is good.  

12 personnel isn’t working .

 

This is a good time to use more 11 personnel. (The personnel Josh allen loves and has thrived in the last 3 years)

[Billl]

Everyone who is acting like this is somehow a positive know literally nothing about football. 

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Billl said:

Everyone who is acting like this is somehow a positive know literally nothing about football. 

Thank you!!!