Low Positive Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The only thing that concerns me here is Dalton really isn’t a blocker. He gives effort, but he’s not good at it yet. That’s needed I don't know what they're going to do. And with Morris injured, they only have one TE on the roster. People celebrating this are not really thinking it through. 3 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Dude needs surgery and us fat guys take tough guy internet shots at him. 5 1 1 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Goin Breakdown said: Dude needs surgery and us fat guys take tough guy internet shots at him. Even us skinny wimpy guys are doing it too 2 4 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Oh right, I forgot about that. Oh well. No more 12 personnel. Meh. The 12 personnel thing is misleading in this case. In our offense Kincaid is just a TE doing the slot WR work. It’s the same offense as with 11 personnel. Part of the issue is that Kincaid is a terrible blocker so we don’t get extra juice in run blocking like with many two TE sets. That is why I doubt he takes over Knox’s in-line duties. I expect Morris to do that. Quote
Success Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 things are true: Knox is overpaid, and he's also valuable to the offense. In no way is this a good thing. I hope we can get him back soon. This season, man. I was hoping for a "healthy" year after last season. Alas. 1 1 3 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 I think losing him hurts the team. He was great in the redzonr Quote
balln Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: Meh. The 12 personnel thing is misleading in this case. In our offense Kincaid is just a TE doing the slot WR work. It’s the same offense as with 11 personnel. Part of the issue is that Kincaid is a terrible blocker so we don’t get extra juice in run blocking like with many two TE sets. That is why I doubt he takes over Knox’s in-line duties. I expect Morris to do that. He’s adequate enough kelce isn’t a blocker Quote
SydneyBillsFan Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Logic said: I understand the Prisoner of the Moment stuff to a degree, because Knox has had a few key drops lately. However...any kind of notion that this somehow makes the Bills offense better seems ridiculous to me. Drops or not, Dawson Knox is a good player for the Bills. A good all-around tight end, and likely the Bills' best blocking tight end by a significant margin. Losing him hurts in the run game, it hurts personnel multiplicity, and it hurts depth. This does NOT make the Bills offense better, and it seems foolish to suggest that it somehow does. I agree, but I'd say most of us are thinking it will improve the team purely because a healthy player will be an improvement over an unhealthy one. A healthy Knox is a weapon. I just think we haven't seen it as much as we'd like because (a) he hasn't been healthy and (b) his game has been compromised to assist with the protection of Spencer Brown. Hope he gets well soon, we really need him. 1 Quote
Breakout Squad Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Dude needs surgery and us fat guys take tough guy internet shots at him. I’ve been cussing him out but I didn’t know about the injuries. That would explain the ineffectiveness. According to my doctor, I’m one of the fat guys 😩 Quote
sven233 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) We'll lose a little bit in the blocking department for sure, but I think there is a good chance the the combination for Kincaid at TE1 and Morris at TE2 might be an upgrade in the passing game. Guess we know why they were working out TEs last week. Just wish our RT wasn't such a disaster and didn't need constant help on every passing play. He's such a weak link on the line and it hinders the offense when you constantly have to have guys stay in or chip block all the time just so he doesn't get Allen killed. Edited October 23, 2023 by sven233 Quote
BearNorth Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, Logic said: likely the Bills' best blocking tight end by a significant margin. Actually his run blocking grade is lower than Kincaid's, but that may be due to (1) injury, (2) having to pick up Spencer's oopsies Quote
JMM Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Aimee75 said: Mixed feelings on this. He's not the most reliable weapon, but he does help out a lot with blocking, and god knows our OL needs all the help. THIS! He chips to help out Brown on regular basis, you think Brown was a turnstile before, just watch. 1 Quote
QB Bills Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 The Knox hate here is ridiculous. Guy is a solid blocking TE and has made some spectacular catches over the years. Sure he drops the odd pass, but I think fans overrate the tight end position in terms of offense added. Not every team has a Kelce. This is a significant loss for the O. Hopefully Kincaid can build on yesterday's performance. 1 Quote
97bills Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: We are taking on a lot of injuries This year and last year have been unbelievable, it sucks.. waiting all year for the hope of a Super Bowl run , then comes injury after injury. 1 Quote
Augie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Get well and come back healthy. I appreciate trying to push thru it. 1 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 41 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Timing is interesting to say the least Can't use him as trade collateral now 😎 Quote
BarleyNY Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, balln said: He’s adequate enough kelce isn’t a blocker “Adequate enough” as a blocker is very generous. LOL on the Kelce comparison. I truly hope he gets there as a receiver. Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: I don't know what they're going to do. And with Morris injured, they only have one TE on the roster. People celebrating this are not really thinking it through. Isn't Gilliam considered a FB/TE? 2 Quote
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