Recap of the bad offensive plays vs NEP

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

 

The defense is just flat out of excellent players and major problems on offense, but aside from questionable play calling and line breakdowns the offense refuses to be patient and take what’s there. The offense refuses to hit the 3-5 step drop routinely and get the ball out, when they do, they drive and score.  Whether it’s The OC, QB WR’s or line is subjective, but it sure looks like a decision making problem. 

 

 

General:

-This team has some serious problems with hot reads and routes on blitzes 

-Quick Stick route to Kincade is open every time for 4-6 yards and possible RAC

-When Allen hits his drop then throws the offense hums, when he doesn’t it’s a crapshoot

-He is incredible running right escaping, but he forces this more often then he needs to, some plays don’t need to be extended.You wear down defenses when you take what they give you and move the chains, stay on the field. It helps the defense as well. 

-Good RAC plays all game by Cook, Kincade, Knox, Murray, Shakir, Diggs when taking what is there 

-it looks like opposing Defense expects no checkdowns taken on second and long.

- two times I saw the line fail in pass pro. Many times the pressure got there a

second or more after the drop completed.

 

 

 

 

Q1

9:55 Obviously the terrible int for the first possession, just take the flat it is wide open 

3:44 happy feet roll out of clean pocket into pressure several wide open

3:35 qb hits drop then runs, no body open at top of drop, holding was much worse on Kincade than Diggs… flag erases play 

0:12 2nd7- clean pocket Shakir wide open at 4, ty Johnson at 10 with nobody near him, happy feet, scrambles left, missed wide open Diggs oob. Could’ve gotten first or made third and short. 

 

Q2

14:55 happy feet again with clean pocket for more than 3 seconds, guys open underneath but 3rdand 17, rolls right, throws uncatchable ball, Davis had separation on the corner 

10:36 this play was blown up by Cyrus whiffing on 90, rolling right could have made throw to wide open Knox working across instead of double covered Diggs miss, but asking a lot

7:36 throws at top of drop for second or third time in game, first time down field. Actually gets into rhythm in this series and gets ball out fast3 consecutive times, 

3:52 2 and 6 clean pocket, NEsent blitz, hits top of drop and hesitates Kincade flat wide open again, throws oob where only NEP Jackson gets hands on it - could have been incredible INT

2:37 2 and 9 …NE 6 man blitz. Diggs, Davis, Shakir Knox all wide open takes a killer sack, a quick touch throw to a spot for the mesh routes would have worked nicely.

2:00 3 and 16 … Diggs wide open underneath crossing around 20, might be able to RAC to get close to a first down, Gabe open to back of EZ if throw splits safeties (routine TD for Brady and Rodgers 5-10 years ago, but require touch)… bass missed kick

 

Q3

9:58 rolling right, tough throw rolling right, but Gabe was wide open coming across ez, cook ends up scoring later so no problem 

4:23 missed Diggs, who had 3 yards on double coverage, clean pocket, should be easy TD, over thrown by 5 yards 

4:19 misses Diggs again several yards to left, clean pocket wide open sitting in zone hole

3:22 Shakir pass to flat was off target too, great diving catch no chance to RAC

1:49 this was the second time I see the pass pro completely whiff even though pats rushed 4 the end was unblocked….

 

Q4

14:40 2 and 7 new England blitz 6, Kincade pops out for easy check down, while WR’s are single manned, maybe even gets a td, instead forces a jump ball to Steph for no gain 

13:47 4 and 2 Gabe Davis wide open in flat for first down, line holds for almost 5 second with clean pocket, eventually bails out of pocket and fires to dropson who gets sandwiched by two guys.

6:36 missed hardy high but got drilled …understandable 

2:50 terrible play call, great defensive call, almost throws a pick

 

Not demanding perfection but these are a lot of failures / misses for an nfl offense. 

Edited October 23, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Warcodered]

and yet we only punted once.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

and yet we only punted once.

Yes,

 

10 possessions - 6 empty 

 

1 punt

1 fumble 

1 int 

1 missed field goal 

1 end of half

1 turnover on downs 

3 TDs 

1 FG 

 

 

[Andy1]

 

[Goin Breakdown]

2 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

 

 I pointed this out to my son while watching the game. I'm pretty stupid and I knew what they were going to do. 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Yes,

 

10 possessions - 6 empty 

 

1 punt

1 fumble 

1 int 

1 missed field goal 

1 end of half

1 turnover on downs 

3 TDs 

1 FG 

 

 

end of half- not much time they didn't try to do anything, you want to care about that, makes sense you looked at every incomplete pass compiling your list.

Fumble-While I'm annoyed that we don't seem to have any actual plan for situations like that, I'm not going to take the 12 seconds hope for a miracle as a stalled drive.

INT-Yeah it happened.

Missed FG-Also happened and it was the weirdest suddenly wind blasted ball I've ever seen, they were still in what should have been normal make able FG range.

Turnover on Downs- happened sucks but I guess after the last wind taken ball we weren't going to try another FG because we were actually in range.

and the punt.

[Mister Defense]

3 hours ago, Andy1 said:

 

 

 

Yup, so imagine what D coordinators are thinking when they prepare for this offense....

 

Pretty shocking that someone on the staff is not going to McDermott to point these things out.

 

Dorsey is just plain lazy--and maybe not that bright as well.

 

[MPT]

6 hours ago, Warcodered said:

and yet we only punted once.

 

Wait I can't remember... Are turnovers better or worse than punts?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

45 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

 

Yup, so imagine what D coordinators are thinking when they prepare for this offense....

 

Pretty shocking that someone on the staff is not going to McDermott to point these things out.

 

Dorsey is just plain lazy--and maybe not that bright as well.

 

didn’t they score on both drives? 

[HoofHearted]

1 hour ago, Mister Defense said:

 

 

Yup, so imagine what D coordinators are thinking when they prepare for this offense....

 

Pretty shocking that someone on the staff is not going to McDermott to point these things out.

 

Dorsey is just plain lazy--and maybe not that bright as well.

 

They converted on 5 of the 6 soooooo.

 

Pretty shocking fans take these things at face value without ever watching the tape to figure out “why”.

[Draconator]

I saw NEP in the thread title, and I'm thinking, "Someone connected Neil Ellwood Peart to the Bills?"

[GunnerBill]

9 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

The defense is just flat out of excellent players and major problems on offense, but aside from questionable play calling and line breakdowns the offense refuses to be patient and take what’s there. The offense refuses to hit the 3-5 step drop routinely and get the ball out, when they do, they drive and score.  Whether it’s The OC, QB WR’s or line is subjective, but it sure looks like a decision making problem. 

 

 

General:

-This team has some serious problems with hot reads and routes on blitzes 

-Quick Stick route to Kincade is open every time for 4-6 yards and possible RAC

-When Allen hits his drop then throws the offense hums, when he doesn’t it’s a crapshoot

-He is incredible running right escaping, but he forces this more often then he needs to, some plays don’t need to be extended.You wear down defenses when you take what they give you and move the chains, stay on the field. It helps the defense as well. 

-Good RAC plays all game by Cook, Kincade, Knox, Murray, Shakir, Diggs when taking what is there 

-it looks like opposing Defense expects no checkdowns taken on second and long.

- two times I saw the line fail in pass pro. Many times the pressure got there a

second or more after the drop completed.

 

 

 

 

Q1

9:55 Obviously the terrible int for the first possession, just take the flat it is wide open 

3:44 happy feet roll out of clean pocket into pressure several wide open

3:35 qb hits drop then runs, no body open at top of drop, holding was much worse on Kincade than Diggs… flag erases play 

0:12 2nd7- clean pocket Shakir wide open at 4, ty Johnson at 10 with nobody near him, happy feet, scrambles left, missed wide open Diggs oob. Could’ve gotten first or made third and short. 

 

Q2

14:55 happy feet again with clean pocket for more than 3 seconds, guys open underneath but 3rdand 17, rolls right, throws uncatchable ball, Davis had separation on the corner 

10:36 this play was blown up by Cyrus whiffing on 90, rolling right could have made throw to wide open Knox working across instead of double covered Diggs miss, but asking a lot

7:36 throws at top of drop for second or third time in game, first time down field. Actually gets into rhythm in this series and gets ball out fast3 consecutive times, 

3:52 2 and 6 clean pocket, NEsent blitz, hits top of drop and hesitates Kincade flat wide open again, throws oob where only NEP Jackson gets hands on it - could have been incredible INT

2:37 2 and 9 …NE 6 man blitz. Diggs, Davis, Shakir Knox all wide open takes a killer sack, a quick touch throw to a spot for the mesh routes would have worked nicely.

2:00 3 and 16 … Diggs wide open underneath crossing around 20, might be able to RAC to get close to a first down, Gabe open to back of EZ if throw splits safeties (routine TD for Brady and Rodgers 5-10 years ago, but require touch)… bass missed kick

 

Q3

9:58 rolling right, tough throw rolling right, but Gabe was wide open coming across ez, cook ends up scoring later so no problem 

4:23 missed Diggs, who had 3 yards on double coverage, clean pocket, should be easy TD, over thrown by 5 yards 

4:19 misses Diggs again several yards to left, clean pocket wide open sitting in zone hole

3:22 Shakir pass to flat was off target too, great diving catch no chance to RAC

1:49 this was the second time I see the pass pro completely whiff even though pats rushed 4 the end was unblocked….

 

Q4

14:40 2 and 7 new England blitz 6, Kincade pops out for easy check down, while WR’s are single manned, maybe even gets a td, instead forces a jump ball to Steph for no gain 

13:47 4 and 2 Gabe Davis wide open in flat for first down, line holds for almost 5 second with clean pocket, eventually bails out of pocket and fires to dropson who gets sandwiched by two guys.

6:36 missed hardy high but got drilled …understandable 

2:50 terrible play call, great defensive call, almost throws a pick

 

Not demanding perfection but these are a lot of failures / misses for an nfl offense. 

 

Yep. And very few of them are playcalling. You missed running Cook into a New England overload as well on the 3rd drive of the day. There is no way you can look at the front they showed you there and run that play. 

 

On Sunday more than any other game I remember they just did not execute on offense plays that were 100% there to be made.

[Mister Defense]

7 hours ago, HoofHearted said:

They converted on 5 of the 6 soooooo.

 

Pretty shocking fans take these things at face value without ever watching the tape to figure out “why”.

 

 

Oh, okay, me being lazy, thinking a different point was being made with those stats.

[Xwnyer]

12 hours ago, Warcodered said:

end of half- not much time they didn't try to do anything, you want to care about that, makes sense you looked at every incomplete pass compiling your list.

Fumble-While I'm annoyed that we don't seem to have any actual plan for situations like that, I'm not going to take the 12 seconds hope for a miracle as a stalled drive.

INT-Yeah it happened.

Missed FG-Also happened and it was the weirdest suddenly wind blasted ball I've ever seen, they were still in what should have been normal make able FG range.

Turnover on Downs- happened sucks but I guess after the last wind taken ball we weren't going to try another FG because we were actually in range.

and the punt.

the cheats turned on the big blast fans during the kick 🙂