Devils advocate...what is Josh is the problem?

[balln]

2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Because he evaded blitzers and got us the lead ? 

He doesn’t need to be jittery and running around wild tho. Stand tall and fire w anticipation and accuracy at the top of his drop. Hit the HOT route. Only time he did it was diggs for td (I’m not even sure that was hot. Shakir wide open was)

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Billever76 said:

Why doesn't McDermott get any blame until just NOW? I mean I look at it the opposite...McDermott has reaped massive praise and credit that has almost all been dependent on josh allen and stefon Diggs.....we honestly have a middling average at best hc and staff with a superstar generational quarterback and wr

Obviously, you haven't read my posts starting last season. 

 

I've been advocating a coaching change for a long time. It was pretty clear in my eyes that McD had run it's course. I beat the drum over and over. I reiterated why I thought change was needed and a positive. My only regret was I over did it and rubbed many the wrong way. 

 

I'm not happy with the way the season is playing out. As Josh Allen said "it looks bleak." Folks, that's coming from the leader of the team. That has to speak volumes. 

 

I suspect if the Bills continue to lose (schedule is brutal) McD may lose the locker room. I'm wondering if it's slightly in progress now. 

[Success]

24 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

this is exactly what I saw in a review of 18 plays from the game. All 22 makes it even worse. Lots of open guys missed or not even thrown to. 
 

Cover 1 is spot on. 

 

What's the context?  JA's protection broke down almost immediately on some plays.  The line play was the worst it's been this year.

 

Excuses, excuses - but it's hard to survey the field for the open guys when Barmore is in your face all day.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

He's been awful for 3 games.  He's got it in him, he just isn't on his A game.  Or B game.  He has the yips.  Hopefully they're gone soon....

[78thealltimegreat]

12 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

You’re right, most just don’t understand football at all and who is responsible for what, some form these visceral religious beliefs in some players that make them unflappable in their minds. 
 

it was similar with Doug Flutie who was a terrible QB but some fans upheld he could do no wrong no matter how stupid of a play he made. 

Don’t ever bother responding to this guy he’s basically an older version of Airseven 

[MPT]

He gets plenty of blame. It's just a lot harder to actually execute plays than it is to call them, especially when you have defenders in your face right after every snap.

 

He's also a perennial MVP candidate and Dorsey wouldn't make anyone's list of top coordinators in the league.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

38 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

The last 7 drives yesterday where  

FG
Bass missed Field Goal

TD

Knox Drop on 4th down

TD 

TD

Josh Allen’s biggest problem is he can’t rush the passer and make Mac Freaking Jones look like Joe Montana 

 

False- the last drive was a fumble. 
 

We agree it’s a problem that Mac Jones is the one that looks like Joe Montana in that game. Very well put. They better get this thing back on the rails. 3 bad losses now, and a heroic defensive effort away from sub 500 record 

[78thealltimegreat]

1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

He's been awful for 3 games.  He's got it in him, he just isn't on his A game.  Or B game.  He has the yips.  Hopefully they're gone soon....

You’re also a dolphins fan so I figured you’d want him to keep having the yips 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

You’re also a dolphins fan so I figured you’d want him to keep having the yips 

never, ever been a phins fan.  born and bred Bills fan.  where'd you get that?

Edited October 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[78thealltimegreat]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

False- the last drive was a fumble. 
 

We agree it’s a problem that Mac Jones is the one that looks like Joe Montana in that game. Very well put. They better get this thing back on the rails. 3 bad losses now, and a heroic defensive effort away from sub 500 record 

Last drive was with 12 seconds left where he hit Diggs right in the hands from 50 yards and he dropped it the last play before but hey haters gonna hate 

Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

never, ever been a phins fan.  born and bred Bills fan.  where'd you get that.

Your tagline is Joe Ferguson who flat out sucked 

[Success]

3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

He's been awful for 3 games.  He's got it in him, he just isn't on his A game.  Or B game.  He has the yips.  Hopefully they're gone soon....

 

"Awful" is a stretch.

 

He made big plays when it counted in all 3 games.  He led what should have been a game-winning comeback yesterday.  He was all kinds of clutch yesterday in that 2nd half, and looked like classic JA evading a fierce pass rush.

 

And man, that throw to Diggs on the 2nd to last play. That would have made things pretty interesting if Diggs pulls it in.

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

 

Your tagline is Joe Ferguson who flat out sucked 

that constitutes a phins fan?  several years when we had season tix, he was the man.  he didn't suck.  mazing at LSU.   Bills sucked back then.

Edited October 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[78thealltimegreat]

Just now, Success said:

 

"Awful" is a stretch.

 

He made big plays when it counted in all 3 games.  He led what should have been a game-winning comeback yesterday.  He was all kinds of clutch yesterday in that 2nd half, and looked like classic JA evading a fierce pass rush.

 

And man, that throw to Diggs on the 2nd to last play. That would have made things pretty interesting if Diggs pulls it in.

 

Don’t bother those two are Allen haters you should see 29 in gameday threads usually disappears when they win 

Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

that constitutes a phins fan.  several years when we had season tix, he was the man.  he didn't suck.  mazing at LST.   Bills sucked back then.

He sucked 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, 78thealltimegreat said:

Don’t bother those two are Allen haters you should see 29 in gameday threads usually disappears when they win 

He sucked 

Geez, where do you come up w this shite?  The only jersey I currently have is 17.  And Old Sabres and Canadiens jerseys.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

7 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

So Flutie is equal to Allen now?

 

So what do we do with Allen? If he's really not that good which is what you're arguing then you must want to move on from him right?  You know that they could get a minimum of 3 first round picks & 3 second round picks for Allen.  Probably more then 25 teams would make this trade in a heartbeat. Imagine what the brain trust could do with that much draft capital.

 

So put your money where your mouth is.  You trash Allen and those that support him so give us your vision going forward of a life with Allen on another team and the Bills swimming in draft picks.

 

 

 

 

 

This is total garbage and doesn't reflect what we're seeing this year.  It's straight up trolling. 

he is like Flutie in the context that people who have little grasp of the game of football or are too infatuated to admit his massive inconsistency religiously refute how instrumental he is in losing these games with his erratic decision making. 
 

these are the same people that blamed every long run ever on edmunds. Because they don’t understand what they are actually watching. 
 

 

[78thealltimegreat]

Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Geez, where do you come up w this shite?  The only jersey I currently have is 17.  And Old Sabres and Canadiens jerseys.

Of course and Joe Ferguson who you probably weren’t alive to watch yet 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Last drive was with 12 seconds left where he hit Diggs right in the hands from 50 yards and he dropped it the last play before but hey haters gonna hate 

 

Ok so you lied or forgot about the actual last drive? 

[CincyBillsFan]

5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

False- the last drive was a fumble. 
 

We agree it’s a problem that Mac Jones is the one that looks like Joe Montana in that game. Very well put. They better get this thing back on the rails. 3 bad losses now, and a heroic defensive effort away from sub 500 record 

What garbage.  You're throwing out the fumble on the last desperation play of the game. Again what should we do about what you consider our big problem with Allen?  Come on let us know what we should do.  Obviously anyone as negative as you have been about Allen must have a plan for what we should do.  So when do we put him on the trading block?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

10 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

He sucked 

Dude had a 17 year NFL career.  I'd like to suck as bad as he did...  played at Arkansas apparently.  but pretty sure he's a Louisiana guy.

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FergJo00.htm

 

 

Do u have any idea how bad the late 70's early 80's Bills were?

6 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Of course and Joe Ferguson who you probably weren’t alive to watch yet 

I'm 63,  saw games in the rock pile.  F off u hoser.

Edited October 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[CincyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

he is like Flutie in the context that people who have little grasp of the game of football or are too infatuated to admit his massive inconsistency religiously refute how instrumental he is in losing these games with his erratic decision making. 
 

these are the same people that blamed every long run ever on edmunds. Because they don’t understand what they are actually watching. 
 

 

So what do we next given that you obviously consider yourself knowledgeable about the game of football.  Clearly in your opinion Allen is not very good.  This must mean you favor parting ways with him so how would you propose we should do it?