Bills vs Tampa Bay. On to Week 8

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

  On 10/23/2023 at 7:34 PM, Big Turk said:

Bills have been the 2nd best offense in the NFL in EPA/play over the last 3 weeks. Let that sink in for a minute.  The problems are not always what you think...

 

Yes, the offense hasn't been good in the 1st half.  They have been near unstoppable in the 2nd half but are being hindered on D since they are not getting enough possessions.  They need to simply start playing better off each other as a team and they will again turn back into a juggernaut.

 

 

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And there is this.

https://x.com/LordReebs/status/1716519121246937242?s=20

 

[Low Positive]

  On 10/23/2023 at 9:52 PM, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

And there is this.

https://x.com/LordReebs/status/1716519121246937242?s=20

 

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And most of those defensive snaps are against the Giants and Pats. 

 

Edited to embed the Tweet that D.L. linked above. Eye-popping stuff.

Edited October 23, 2023 by FrenchConnection

[MasterStrategist]

  On 10/23/2023 at 10:13 PM, FrenchConnection said:

And most of those defensive snaps are against the Giants and Pats. 

 

Edited to embed the Tweet that D.L. linked above. Eye-popping stuff.

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Too many missed tackles and this defense is really built around having top-end LB play (combined at both spots).

 

Right now, Dorians head is spinning.  No surprise, a 3rd round talent that needed grooming (coming out of Tulane).  He has the athletic traits, going to take a year or 2 before things click though.  At which point, Milano will be in his 30s and we can decide if he's a capable replacement.

 

In the here and now, Beane either makes a trade OR we need to keep getting Dorian reps.  Dodson is limited, honestly they missed out on some cheaper vet deals this offseason that would have been helpful.  Makatevich, Spector, and Klein are SUPER limited and S/T types only.  

 

I would have thought Kirksey would be here already, if that was gonna happen (Klein instead signed to 53).

 

TB is also a 1st year starter.  And while exceeding expectations, he isn't in position all the time either.  

 

Somehow Beane neglected 1 tech DT and WLB depth.

[Low Positive]

  On 10/23/2023 at 10:25 PM, MasterStrategist said:

Too many missed tackles and this defense is really built around having top-end LB play (combined at both spots).

 

Right now, Dorians head is spinning.  No surprise, a 3rd round talent that needed grooming (coming out of Tulane).  He has the athletic traits, going to take a year or 2 before things click though.  At which point, Milano will be in his 30s and we can decide if he's a capable replacement.

 

In the here and now, Beane either makes a trade OR we need to keep getting Dorian reps.  Dodson is limited, honestly they missed out on some cheaper vet deals this offseason that would have been helpful.  Makatevich, Spector, and Klein are SUPER limited and S/T types only.  

 

I would have thought Kirksey would be here already, if that was gonna happen (Klein instead signed to 53).

 

TB is also a 1st year starter.  And while exceeding expectations, he isn't in position all the time either.  

 

Somehow Beane neglected 1 tech DT and WLB depth.

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I don't agree that he neglected it. He brought in Poona Ford and drafted Williams. It just hasn't worked out.

[MasterStrategist]

  On 10/23/2023 at 10:26 PM, FrenchConnection said:

I don't agree that he neglected it. He brought in Poona Ford and drafted Williams. It just hasn't worked out.

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Dorian is a "project".  Poona was signed well into FA, wasn't Plan A.

 

Regardless, there were gambles taken at the LB spot.  Counting on 2 third rounders to be ready for major playing time.  Or relying on Dodson.  

 

At 1 tech DT, I would have thought we prioritized depth/future development (draft pick) given what what we saw when Daquan missed time.  

 

Poona was "reactionary", I could see Dorian being a planned/strategy decision (so be it). 

 

Bottom line, the front office decisions at some critical positions/depth is NOT as good as initially expected.

[Since1981]

—D big injured guys at each level (Milano, Tre, etc)

—O should have been equal or better—except we have McDorseyBrit cutting Josh man parts off.

 

not directly on beane 

  On 10/23/2023 at 10:32 PM, MasterStrategist said:

Regardless, there were gambles taken at the LB spot.  Counting on 2 third rounders to be ready for major playing time.  Or relying on Dodson

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That a bad take. Bernard is fine and Milano season loss is monster. 

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[MasterStrategist]

  On 10/23/2023 at 10:56 PM, Since1981 said:

—D big injured guys at each level (Milano, Tre, etc)

—O should have been equal or better—except we have McDorseyBrit cutting Josh man parts off.

 

not on beane 

That a bad take. Bernard is fine and Milano season loss is monster. 

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Agree, Bernard is fine/good pick.  But we came into the year with what depth/plan I'd someone got injured?  Dorian should be #4, he's young and going to be OK as the year keeps going. But when there were multiple 1-yr rental/depth types in FA, we decided on Dodson/Klein. 

 

It is what it is.  Milano loss was nobodies fault, just too many injuries to overcome right now.

[WotAGuy]

  On 10/23/2023 at 5:23 PM, Bills!Win! said:

I’m Going to the game Thursday. Will fans be doom and gloom or is it just a two bills drive thing? 

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It will be drunk and gloom. Night game. 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Kincaid season is upon us. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

We should have followed through on that Fournette visit 🥴could use all the information and help we can get here apparently 

[Warriorspikes51]

  On 10/23/2023 at 11:48 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

We should have followed through on that Fournette visit 🥴could use all the information and help we can get here apparently 

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a practice squad player apparently is seen as more valuable than an RB who is a very good playoff performer!  Very annoying. This offense could use a brawler like Fournette who is also a quality pass blocker and pass catcher

[ALG1130]

Well, at the very least, the weather looks like it will be nice. 71 in the afternoon and 60's at night. Seems like a nice, clear day.

 

Bad winds/elements make a game feel even more stressful, especially when the said team seems to be struggling.

[CNYfan]

Our sails have no wind at the moment.  Mafia may be subdued unless the Bills can come out and fire things up a bit.  

[Chaos]

  On 10/23/2023 at 10:13 PM, FrenchConnection said:

And most of those defensive snaps are against the Giants and Pats. 

 

Edited to embed the Tweet that D.L. linked above. Eye-popping stuff.

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These bottom dwelling defensive snaps are all on Dorsey and Allen. 

[Low Positive]

  On 10/24/2023 at 12:22 AM, Chaos said:

These bottom dwelling defensive snaps are all on Dorsey and Allen. 

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I just feel so deflated right now. The Bills can’t play defense with the players that they have available to them. And I just spent $300 for two tickets to watch this 💩show live on Thursday night. 

[Chaos]

  On 10/24/2023 at 12:26 AM, FrenchConnection said:

I just feel so deflated right now. The Bills can’t play defense with the players that they have available to them. And I just spent $300 for two tickets to watch this 💩show live on Thursday night. 

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They will win Thursday. It will be money well spent. 

[SoCal Deek]

So many excuses on here today! Last night I watched Eli Ricks (an undrafted rookie CB and a close personal friend of the family) break up two passes intended for the mighty Tyreek Hill. The second one sealed the win for the Eagles. Players have to play and the Bills coaching staff can’t seem to coach up young talent to save their freaking lives 

[BananaB]

  On 10/24/2023 at 12:26 AM, FrenchConnection said:

I just feel so deflated right now. The Bills can’t play defense with the players that they have available to them. And I just spent $300 for two tickets to watch this 💩show live on Thursday night. 

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Could be worse I have tickets, flights, hotel and car rental all paid for. At least the wings will be good. 

Edited October 24, 2023 by BananaB

[Low Positive]

  On 10/24/2023 at 12:35 AM, BananaB said:

Could be worse I have tickets, flights, hotel and car rental all paid for. At least the wings will be good. 

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I’m driving in from Cincinnati so I had to get a room. But it’s my first home game since 1989 and my son’s first game at Highmark so it should be a good time regardless.

[RichRiderBills]

What worries me most is the DTs.