gobills404 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Success said: Was that really wind? It looked like he put some kind of crazy spin on it. I don't remember the ball moving that much even in the wind game against the Pats. I’ve also never seen a kick move like that from just the kicker hitting a knuckleball or whatever you wanna call it. There were winds of 15-20mph during the game but I don’t think we can be certain either way without seeing the goalpost flags in a replay . 2 Quote
SCBills Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 I don't have the energy to rationally discuss Special Teams. For how heavily we invest in this unit, we better not be having any more conversations about them moving forward. Missed FG's, punt return for a TD in OT... gave up another big punt return yesterday. Feeling the need to justify their investment by playing games with their kickoffs. It's all exhausting. Quote
Doc Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said: That kick attempt looked windblown for sure much like what happens at the scoreboard end at the stadium fka the Ralph. I do not think a mishit football can slice as much as my mishit tee shots do but the flags on the goalposts were still at the time. Patriots up to some shenanigans with the wind currents maybe. That was a headscratcher as to what went on. Belicheat said prior to the season that their new scoreboard would do that. Quote
4merper4mer Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: He's cost the Bills 9 points in two weeks. Cant go through the season with the kicker losing the team 4.5 points a game. NoW do the rest of the season/career. 3 Quote
Eastport bills Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Virgil said: Did you see what the wind did to that miss? I don't know that you can put that one on Bass The other kicker had zero problems. They don’t ask why with kickers, it’s makes and misses. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Bass is the least of this team's issues 1 1 Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I wasn't concerned after the kick yesterday. It was on target for the first 25 yards and then a gust pushed it literally 10 yards to the right. The ball was like a MarioKart driver making a quick right turn. Belichick wind machine. Quote
Virgil Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: The other kicker had zero problems. They don’t ask why with kickers, it’s makes and misses. I mean, wind isn't consistent... 1 Quote
billsbackto81 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Least of my concerns. If this was billards that was a masse shot. You can't be so blind to tell me you didn't see the wind get a hold of that kick. Quote
Dr.Sack Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Honestly McDermott could have elected to call a timeout to help Bass when the winds started gusting before the kick. Another issue was Martin's spot. Upon replay it showed not the ideal placement of the ball as Bass' foot contacted the ball. Unlike an ideal place kick the ball wasn't hit in the sweet spot due to poor placement (ball looked angled to the left) / caused either by a bad snap or Martin hold miscue. Bass reaction points to displeasure in the hold and / or disbelief in the wind. Clearly if the wind speed was 0 mph you can get by with this effort. But when weather is a factor the snap, hold, and kick timing have to be in-sync. At the moment the ball left Bass foot you can see the typical end over end vertical 90°, was more a 75° end over end rotation. This causes the ball to take on more angular rotation and any gusts are going to affect the ball after it reaches maximum velocity and height. Norwood's kick was a perfect end over end, but his hips did not rotate. Bass kick was heading straight until the ball speed slowed and the wobbling of the ball caused by bad hold wind speed caused the ball to sail right. Quote
Warcodered Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: I mean, wind isn't consistent... but giant magnets...🤷♂️ I mean I'm not saying they did, but if someone was to do it who would you think it'd be. 1 Quote
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Freddie's Dead Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: That kick attempt looked windblown for sure much like what happens at the scoreboard end at the stadium fka the Ralph. I do not think a mishit football can slice as much as my mishit tee shots do but the flags on the goalposts were still at the time. Patriots up to some shenanigans with the wind currents maybe. That was a headscratcher as to what went on. they turned on the hidden fans in the upper deck. #Belicheatin' Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 End of the day - these misses are starting to add up. Needs to get it together because in games you win or lose by +/- 6 points, those FGs can and are often the difference. Much like a poorly timed call or non-call can make a huge swing. Quote
dorquemada Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 he's suffering from the same generalized malaise that the rest of the team and the neurons in McD's head are suffering from Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, gobills404 said: I’ve also never seen a kick move like that from just the kicker hitting a knuckleball or whatever you wanna call it. There were winds of 15-20mph during the game but I don’t think we can be certain either way without seeing the goalpost flags in a replay . That was a weird kick for sure. Watching it again I think Bass just sliced the heck out of it. The streamers on the goal posts were barely moving, and I don't see the refs pants moving either. If it was the wind it would have to be the flukiest burst of wind in history to only effect the path the kick was on and nothing else. Doesn't look like a defender tipped it either. Quote
fasteddie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 When I saw the replay, it seemed that Bass wasn't ready for the snap. The ball was down and he looked hurried, trying to get his steps right. That could cause a mis-hit, shanking the ball. Quote
Freak-O Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Eastport bills said: The other kicker had zero problems. They don’t ask why with kickers, it’s makes and misses. But what if there was some previously unseen weather phenomenon during the game? Something like, I don’t know, winds not being constant? Quote
Eastport bills Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Freak-O said: But what if there was some previously unseen weather phenomenon during the game? Something like, I don’t know, winds not being constant? He misses a few more FGs that crush us, you won’t use any wind excuses. Previous seasons he’s been great. This is the life of a kicker. No matter his history, he can’t lose you a game. Quote
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