Blackbeard Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) Why the hell are we?!! My opinion is that is the issue. It has changed the way we play and the way defenses play us. The improvising is gone. Keeping defenses off kilter is gone. Edited October 22, 2023 by Blackbeard 2 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Mahomes is a hall of fame QB. Allen has yet in his career gone 2 consecutive games without a turnover . 1 Quote
Bangarang Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Our offense was better with RPOs and designed QB runs. Daboll’s problem was that he was over reliant on running Josh when the offense got stagnant. Dorsey completely eliminated it along with the jet sweeps, pop passes etc. 1 Quote
Blackbeard Posted October 22, 2023 Author Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 10:33 PM, Dablitzkrieg said: Mahomes is a hall of fame QB. Allen has yet in his career gone 2 consecutive games without a turnover . Expand And running is what makes Mahomes good. Just my point. 1 Quote
philholbroo Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 They refuse to have him do a QB sneak on 4th and 1. But it goes back to coaching scared. Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 10:33 PM, Dablitzkrieg said: Mahomes is a hall of fame QB. Allen has yet in his career gone 2 consecutive games without a turnover . Expand Do you know if that stat doesn't hold true for Mahomes? Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 10:34 PM, Blackbeard said: And running is what makes Mahomes good. Just my point. Expand You're missing my point. Allen is a turnover machine. The team is not good enough to overcome it. That's a major reason why he's not running Quote
Warcodered Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Allen and Mahomes didn't ever really run the same, I would love if they got Allen to run only at the times that Mahomes typically does. Allen could probably run a bit more than him but pulling back on that isn't the worst. Right now they've got Allen not really running at all, if he could find the balance of only running when the reward is clear and better than any risk he could take throwing, it'd be so good. Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 10:35 PM, Billzgobowlin said: Do you know if that stat doesn't hold true for Mahomes? Expand Yes, I know it doesn't Quote
Blackbeard Posted October 22, 2023 Author Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) On 10/22/2023 at 10:36 PM, Dablitzkrieg said: You're missing my point. Allen is a turnover machine. The team is not good enough to overcome it. That's a major reason why he's not running Expand He turns it over more throwing it w interceptions than running. They stopped running Allen to prevent future injury to him. Not so much his turning it over imo. Edited October 22, 2023 by Blackbeard Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 10:33 PM, Dablitzkrieg said: Mahomes is a hall of fame QB. Allen has yet in his career gone 2 consecutive games without a turnover . Expand That is completely inaccurate Allen has the same amount ints as Mahomes this year Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 10:37 PM, Blackbeard said: He turns it over more throwing it w interceptions than running. Expand No *****. Think about the difference in the # of passes vs the # of runs On 10/22/2023 at 10:38 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: That is completely inaccurate Allen has the same amount ints as Mahomes this year Expand Are you drunk? I'm out Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 10:38 PM, Dablitzkrieg said: No *****. Think about the difference in the # of passes vs the # of runs Are you drunk? I'm out Expand So you lost the argument nice see ya troll 1 1 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 10:40 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: So you lost the argument nice see ya troll Expand Do some research. I'm not arguing with stupid people Quote
MPT Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Mahomes only runs on scrambles though. It's not like he gets designed runs. His offensive line is just so good that he has 5 seconds to throw the ball or he can run through a wide open hole. Josh still scrambles, but he usually has to break two tackles before the line of scrimmage. But I do agree they need to find a better balance for designed runs that's somewhere between making Josh our best RB and nothing. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 10:40 PM, Dablitzkrieg said: Do some research. I'm not arguing with stupid people Expand Both have seven ints this year this isn’t hard Quote
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