Is Von Miller toast?

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

59 minutes ago, Einstein said:

He is 3 weeks post comeback and there is very little bend to his rush, much slower get-off (you can tell he is trying to jump the snap to get the edge), and I have yet to see him win a single match-up.

 

He simply looks bad.

 

Last time he came back from an ICL injury he was younger, but he had 9 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 TFL in his first 3 games back.

 

Do we feel Von is toast? His dead cap is $32.5M so he is not going anywhere.

 

To me he looks like a guy who's missed almost a full year of football, I think he's going to take time which unfortunately is time we don't have but looks like the reality.

[Desert Bills Fan]

Who???
does he play for the Bills?
haven’t heard his name or noticed him in games this year…

[Baba Booey]

Miller is done. Putting no effort into this year at all. Time to move on!!!

[Bangarang]

3 minutes ago, Baba Booey said:

Miller is done. Putting no effort into this year at all. Time to move on!!!

His contract makes that impossible 

[Baba Booey]

Just now, Bangarang said:

His contract makes that impossible 

It’s actually doable after next year. Was a three year contract!

[sven233]

The guy is 34 coming off an ACL with no camp or preseason.  Getting back to running and cutting itself is one thing, but getting back into football shape is completely different.  I wouldn't expect his snap count to increase dramatically on a short week here, but my guess is that after the simi-bye this Thursday is that his snap count starts to rise.  He hasn't shown a ton of pass rush moves with the snaps he's had.....mostly rushing wide.  But he's still ramping up.  Also, it is so hard to get into any type of flow when you are only playing certain snaps periodically.  Von has always been a rusher where he uses a few rushes in a row to set up other moves.  If he's not playing consistently, he can't do that.  

 

Bottom line, it's early for him yet.  It is still going to take a bit of time to get in football shape and get the body used to the punishment it takes.  We all want him to be the Von we know he can be and I get having patience is hard.

[Bangarang]

2 minutes ago, Baba Booey said:

It’s actually doable after next year. Was a three year contract!

Right, he’s here through 2024.

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

He will be back to his best come the playoffs 

The Bills aren't making the playoffs.   Are you thinking they trade Von to a real playoff contender?

[Baba Booey]

Just now, Dablitzkrieg said:

The Bills aren't making the playoffs.   Are you thinking they trade Von to a real playoff contender?

You can’t trade him. Too high off a number on him. He is done, will never babe the player he once was. 

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

He will be back to his best come the playoffs 

Looks like a distant dream at this moment

[PBF81]

24 minutes ago, Chugga said:

I can agree with that.  That being said I wanted Chandler Jones and he’s currently roaming the desert in a tin foil hat.  I’ve never been a big Von fan.  Mainly because of his constant reminder about how he loved LA and it seemed like he came here in some ways to cash a check and grow his podcast but he won me over a little last year.  Prior to the injury the guy could play.  I think he still has something left in the tank as a specialist but you don’t pay a specialist his type of money.

 

LOL @ the Chandler Jones reference.  

 

I'm not a fan of expensive signings of players that are near or at the tail end of their careers, such that the signing has to have every upside of it to materialize in order for it to be considered a good signing.  

 

With better planning and team management that should easily be capable of being avoided.  

 

 

[peterpan]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

I don’t blame you.

 

When he played, it was as if we subbed in a JAG.

What is a jag 

[thenorthremembers]

1 hour ago, Dr Divit said:

Might go down as one of the worst signings in Bills history.  
 

Hey the should of thought about the injury risk for a 34 ur old end

I am not sure if I can think of a worse signing in terms of handcuffing the team from making other moves.   Von Miller's contract plays into them not being able to sign Hopkins.

[Whkfc]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

He will be back to his best come the playoffs 

PLAYOFFS?? YOUR TALKING ABOUT PLAYOFFS????

6 minutes ago, peterpan said:

What is a jag 

Just a guy. Any regular dude you may find on a nfl roster

[TheyCallMeAndy]

He definitely doesn’t look 100% mentally or physically ready yet. 

[Einstein]

9 minutes ago, peterpan said:

What is a jag 

 

Just Another Guy.

[Dr Divit]

Von is being paid TJ Watt money,  so Bills should ask for a refund 

[Gunsgoodtime]

***** toast.  40$  piece of ***** toast.   Congrats Beane you ***** dumbass!

[GoBills!]

Miller is slow, Poyer is slow (had a great game today but on the season he has been down a few steps from the past 1-2 years. Hyde is still ok but again not MVP hyde we had.

I was hyed about Von but also know it was really a 2 year with a hope for the 3rd year production and its just a bad deal now. Hopkins is invisible for the Titians so I don't look at him like it was the only reason we didn't.

[Boatdrinks]

Maybe. Won’t know for another month. If he’s not ramped up by December , he’s done.