Is Von Miller toast?

[That's No Moon]

22 minutes ago, Einstein said:

He is 3 weeks post comeback and there is very little bend to his rush, much slower get-off (you can tell he is trying to jump the snap to get the edge), and I have yet to see him win a single match-up.

 

He simply looks bad.

 

Last time he came back from an ICL injury he was younger, but he had 9 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 TFL in his first 3 games back.

 

Do we feel Von is toast? His dead cap is $32.5M so he is not going anywhere.

He's done.

[Buffalo03]

22 minutes ago, Einstein said:

He is 3 weeks post comeback and there is very little bend to his rush, much slower get-off (you can tell he is trying to jump the snap to get the edge), and I have yet to see him win a single match-up.

 

He simply looks bad.

 

Last time he came back from an ICL injury he was younger, but he had 9 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 TFL in his first 3 games back.

 

Do we feel Von is toast? His dead cap is $32.5M so he is not going anywhere.

No, he's lazy

[Augie]

It won’t be a year until Thanksgiving. I say chill. 

[Hebert19]

He looked good on 1 rush today the rest he was going thru motions. 

[Einstein]

Just now, Augie said:

It won’t be a year until Thanksgiving. I say chill. 

 

I completely understand your point, but consider this:

 

The last time he came back from an ACL tear it was only 9 months between his injury date and his first game back.

 

In his first three games back he had 9 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 TFL.

 

Of course, he was younger. But that’s kinda the point - father time catches up to everyone.

[Dr.Sack]

For players born in 1989 only Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift look young. 

[billsfan89]

I wouldn’t say so, he has to work himself back into shape coming off a serious injury. Give it another month and I think we will have a better picture of what’s going on with Von. Groot, Floyd and AJE have to get it going.

[MPT]

35 minutes ago, Dr Divit said:

Might go down as one of the worst signings in Bills history.  
 

Hey the should of thought about the injury risk for a 34 ur old end

 

Yup. I really respect what Von has done in his career, but we paid an aging DE who doesn't care about containing the edge like he was in the prime of his career.

[BillsFanForever19]

I don't even remember seeing the guy on the field. How many snaps did he even have? 

 

It's going to take some time for him to get back into playing shape. It's going to take even longer when he's barely even getting warmed up on the field. 

 

I get wanting to keep him fresh for the Playoffs. But if things keep going the way they're going, that's far from a given.

[Gunsgoodtime]

He might be toast, but the Bills and us fans are suffering from PRIME RIB STEAK FAILURE.  Not suprising signing a 32 year old to more money than you pay the whole WR corps outside of Diggs only to get injured ( OH he got injured as an old player?)  Shocker!  Dawson Knox had done more for Dawson's landing than he had in the NFL before signing that massive contract.  Btw I have no ***** idea what Dawson's landing or any of that bs here

[Toyo321]

The fact that he was invisible today, and was the same in the last two games, is all that needs to be said.

[Einstein]

Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

I don't even remember seeing the guy on the field. How many snaps did he even have? 

He has been averaging 20-something snaps a  game.

[Gunsgoodtime]

40$m piece of toast.  Great job Beane.  You ***** dumbass

[Aussie Joe]

24 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

You think this team is going to the playoffs?!🤣  If so, please list out the specific 6 or 7 wins you see on the remaining schedule.

Hey ..I didn’t say the Bills were gunna make the playoffs … just that he would be back to his best by then… just in time to get the most out of his January holiday …

 

 

Edited October 22, 2023 by Aussie Joe

[Chugga]

34 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

My position's been unchanged since we signed him.  

 

My money says that he's finished as anything but JAG.  

 

But for the money he's getting, there's absolutely no way we get that level of play from him.  

 

 

I can agree with that.  That being said I wanted Chandler Jones and he’s currently roaming the desert in a tin foil hat.  I’ve never been a big Von fan.  Mainly because of his constant reminder about how he loved LA and it seemed like he came here in some ways to cash a check and grow his podcast but he won me over a little last year.  Prior to the injury the guy could play.  I think he still has something left in the tank as a specialist but you don’t pay a specialist his type of money.

[mrags]

46 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

He will be back to his best come the playoffs 

So…. Next season maybe? Cuz we ain’t making it this year if they continue to look like crap 

[Augie]

14 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I completely understand your point, but consider this:

 

The last time he came back from an ACL tear it was only 9 months between his injury date and his first game back.

 

In his first three games back he had 9 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 TFL.

 

Of course, he was younger. But that’s kinda the point - father time catches up to everyone.

 

I think the point is…..do it in the playoffs where it’s critical and you are closer to 100%. 

 

But that is a hope, and only time will tell. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

53 minutes ago, Einstein said:

He is 3 weeks post comeback and there is very little bend to his rush, much slower get-off (you can tell he is trying to jump the snap to get the edge), and I have yet to see him win a single match-up.

 

He simply looks bad.

 

Last time he came back from an ICL injury he was younger, but he had 9 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 TFL in his first 3 games back.

 

Do we feel Von is toast? His dead cap is $32.5M so he is not going anywhere.

 

White looked pretty bad last year and he sat out a full year.  Likely not going to get much out of Miller this year till maybe very late or in playoffs assuming the Bills get that far.  This is also the 2nd time for Miller and older.  Way too early to say he's toast, but right now, he's not effective much at all.

[NoName]

He's done.  He's toast.  The question is this.  If he continues to be toast throughout the year, can the bills cut him and move on?  

[Aussie Joe]

39 minutes ago, Coldfronts said:

How much longer are the Bills tied up with his contract?

Realistically… at least one more year after this one