Bills @ Patriots Post game thread

[WideNine]

1 minute ago, Maine-iac said:

I was at the game and it seemed like Josh missed a number of throws.  Watching the game now at home on DVR.  Some harder than others but Josh missed a few throws we've seen him make before.  The Pats came out running the ball down our throats.  Not really surprising given our injuries but I have to wonder if they didn't try to coach around our inability to stop the run and in turn got Mac Jones going.  Totally reminded me of Cinci last year.  Can't stop the run and as a consequence makes the pass that much harder to defend.  Not sure averaging 9 penalties a game (the last 3 games) is helping either.

 

Dodson is a bit more of a downhill thumper as a run defender than Bernard or Williams, but as soon as McD brought him in Mac just used play action and lobbed passes behind him because he is not as good recognizing where he needs to be in coverage and getting there on time.

 

Eerily similar to how broken this defense got when DaQuan was out last year.

 

We missed the double teams he draws and his push up the middle collapsing the pocket. We also missed having Oliver's disruptive ability to split the double teams, beat protection schemes, and  knife into the backfield.

 

The team looked sloppy yesterday executing in all phases, but I thought the officiating was pretty abysmal in general.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, WideNine said:

 

Dodson is a bit more of a downhill thumper as a run defender than Bernard or Williams, but as soon as McD brought him in Mac just used play action and lobbed passes behind him because he is not as good recognizing where he needs to be in coverage and getting there on time.

 

Eerily similar to how broken this defense got when DaQuan was out last year.

 

We missed the double teams he draws and his push up the middle collapsing the pocket. We also missed having Oliver's disruptive ability to split the double teams, beat protection schemes, and  knife into the backfield.

 

The team looked sloppy yesterday executing in all phases, but I thought the officiating was pretty abysmal in general.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Healthy Jones and Oliver I doubt the Pats come our running like they did.  Jones is looking at 3rd and longs and the nwe heat him up with just our front 4 and play coverage.  Just so much harder to play our defense when we get beat at the LOS so much.

[WideNine]

Finally caught up with Joe's Locked On podcast and mirrored much of what I thought I saw.

 

Didn't realize how much Williams, Bernard, and Taron struggled in the middle and as we suspected our interior DT play was poor.

 

So an easy day for Mac to step up clean and deliver to open guys on in-breaking routes.

 

Also Torrence and Morse got manhandled. 

 

I have been preaching prioritizing prospects for both a younger 1-tech and C for years to groom as anchors to both lines and that has largely been ignored by OBD.

 

Mitch is a good C, but struggles with bigger, stronger DTs, and every team in the AFC East has made having one a priority.

 

Miami - Wilkins

Jets - Williams

NE (technically a NT) Barmore

 

Barmore took Torrence and Morse to school quite a bit in that game making it hard for Allen to step up and into throws or escape the pocket.

 

So we will see how or if our Bills can adapt and make adjustments for Thurs.

 

 

 

 

[chongli]

To add further insult, Sky TV in the UK decided to show Miami at Philadelphia for its game of the week replay. Buffalo at New England had been scheduled to air.

 

 

[HoofHearted]

On 10/23/2023 at 8:23 AM, Dukestreetking said:

@HoofHearted question/request:

 

If/when you get a chance, can you do 'Line/QB Pass error analysis" for this game? Always interesting, helpful...realize it's probably time-consuming.

 

May be available already in the many threads, but haven't seen it. Thanks.

1st Series

1. 12p - Flood vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection to the Field - Good Concept vs. the Cover 3 look, Patriots bring 5 - protection is good - we slide to the pressure - Josh's eyes are good - corner came off late like it's taught and josh threw an underthrown floater to the out.

 

2nd Series

1. 11p - H Follow vs. Cover 1 - Half Slide Protection to the Field - Great concept getting the rub vs man coverage - Patriots bring 4 - protection is good - throw is good.

2. 11p - HBO vs. Bracket - Slide Protection to the Field - Protection was called correctly - Patriots bring 3 and spy with the 4th - Brown lost his 1v1 - Nice throw and catch between Allen and Cook on the scramble drill. Allen worked the two receiver side vs the man look to go for the big play to Sherfield on the vertical - had Diggs to the field early (even though they had bracket coverage on him on a rub - looked there but protection was breaking down and didn't have a base set to throw.

3. 11p - PAP Corner-Post Concept vs. Cover 3 - Outside Zone Blocking Scheme - Based off the protection it looks like Josh got too wide in his drop and then got caught outside of his pocket and was forced to roll to the sideline and eventually eat it. Play was designed to bring the defense down to the OZ side and then hit Diggs on the Post as it cross the MoF Safeties face. Dig route by the Tight End brought the underneath defenders forward to create the open spacing for Diggs to be wide open if Allen were able to sit inside Brown within the protection.

4. 11p - Curl/Arrow vs. 1 Rat - Half Slide Protection - Patriots rush 5 - Protection is called correctly - Good coverage - Allen recognizes man and tries to take off - gets tripped up - Barmore beats Morse with a club rip and gets widened into Dawkins allowing DE to work back upfield to get to Allen

5. 11p - Tunnel vs. Man - Good pitch and catch for a 1st Down to Cook. Great call vs. what we got from the defense and a great way to SCHEME COOK into the pass game

6. 11p - RPO Bubble vs. Cover 6 - Dart Blocking Scheme - Good call - 3 over 3 coverage - Dart actions holds the backer - we cross block the bubble to gain advantage on angles and pick up about 8 yards. This is the type of stuff that doesn't get noticed by anyone - the design of this play to 1) get a numbers advantage and 2) block it in a way to give us a huge advantage is a master class in play design.

7. 11p - T Choice vs. Quarters - Half Slide Protection - Patriots bring 6 - Protection was called correctly - Diggs is lined up in our backfield so Allen can't keep the back in for Scan protection - the 6th rusher will be free and Josh has to recognize that and throw hot off the 6th rusher - Allen recognizes the rushes - stares at Shakir who's our hot and instead of setting his feet and throwing he panics and tries to escape the pocket - should have been an easy pitch and catch - this ones on Allen

8. 12p - H Choice vs. Bracket - Slide Protection - Patriots rush 3 - Protection called correctly - Torrence blows the protection - after he realizes he doesn't have an outside threat he just freezes and doesn't help Morse who gets beat by Barmore - Josh still able to throw TD pass to Knox which was called back for OPI.

9. 12p - H Follow vs. Quarters - Slide Protection - Protection called correctly - Pats rush 3 spy 1 - Allen reads the H Follow side first sees it's not there and scrambles to the field - unfortunate because the patriots were in a version of Quarters where the corner mans 1 and the cover down and high safety are playing combo coverage on 2 and 3 - with the route concept we had called it set up a natural pick and both Knox and Kincaid were wide open

 

3rd Series

1. 11p - PAP Curl/Arrow vs. Cover 6 - BOB Protection - Patriots rush 4 - Protection called correctly - Allen hits Kincaid in the flat on the arrow

2. 11p - Flood vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - Protection called correctly - Patriots rush 4 - Torrence loses his 1v1 - Josh escapes the pocket and probably should have just dumped it to Murray and let him get what he could, but he tries to extend the play and has options in Knox and Diggs open - overthrows Diggs on the Out.

 

All I got time for right now, but I'll try and get some more done later tonight if I have time.

 

@Big Turk You had asked about protections I think.

Edited October 25, 2023 by HoofHearted

[Scott7975]

8 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

7. 11p - T Choice vs. Quarters - Half Slide Protection - Patriots bring 6 - Protection was called correctly - Diggs is lined up in our backfield so Allen can't keep the back in for Scan protection - the 6th rusher will be free and Josh has to recognize that and throw hot off the 6th rusher - Allen recognizes the rushes - stares at Shakir who's our hot and instead of setting his feet and throwing he panics and tries to escape the pocket - should have been an easy pitch and catch - this ones on Allen

 

First, thank you for taking the time to do this. Can you maybe share your thoughts on why, if Allen was staring down the hot as to why he would just stare him down and not throw it? I can't see the play you are referring to but I am envisioning that he is open if he is the hot and Allen has identified the right throw... so why isn't he throwing it?  I have noticed other times that Allen sees the right guy but doesn't make the throw.  It baffles me why that is.

[HoofHearted]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

First, thank you for taking the time to do this. Can you maybe share your thoughts on why, if Allen was staring down the hot as to why he would just stare him down and not throw it? I can't see the play you are referring to but I am envisioning that he is open if he is the hot and Allen has identified the right throw... so why isn't he throwing it?  I have noticed other times that Allen sees the right guy but doesn't make the throw.  It baffles me why that is.

Based on his footwork it looked like he thought he wouldn't be able to get the pass off in time.

[HoofHearted]

 

28 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

1st Series

1. 12p - Flood vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection to the Field - Good Concept vs. the Cover 3 look, Patriots bring 5 - protection is good - we slide to the pressure - Josh's eyes are good - corner came off late like it's taught and josh threw an underthrown floater to the out.

 

2nd Series

1. 11p - H Follow vs. Cover 1 - Half Slide Protection to the Field - Great concept getting the rub vs man coverage - Patriots bring 4 - protection is good - throw is good.

2. 11p - HBO vs. Bracket - Slide Protection to the Field - Protection was called correctly - Patriots bring 3 and spy with the 4th - Brown lost his 1v1 - Nice throw and catch between Allen and Cook on the scramble drill. Allen worked the two receiver side vs the man look to go for the big play to Sherfield on the vertical - had Diggs to the field early (even though they had bracket coverage on him on a rub - looked there but protection was breaking down and didn't have a base set to throw.

3. 11p - PAP Corner-Post Concept vs. Cover 3 - Outside Zone Blocking Scheme - Based off the protection it looks like Josh got too wide in his drop and then got caught outside of his pocket and was forced to roll to the sideline and eventually eat it. Play was designed to bring the defense down to the OZ side and then hit Diggs on the Post as it cross the MoF Safeties face. Dig route by the Tight End brought the underneath defenders forward to create the open spacing for Diggs to be wide open if Allen were able to sit inside Brown within the protection.

4. 11p - Curl/Arrow vs. 1 Rat - Half Slide Protection - Patriots rush 5 - Protection is called correctly - Good coverage - Allen recognizes man and tries to take off - gets tripped up - Barmore beats Morse with a club rip and gets widened into Dawkins allowing DE to work back upfield to get to Allen

5. 11p - Tunnel vs. Man - Good pitch and catch for a 1st Down to Cook. Great call vs. what we got from the defense and a great way to SCHEME COOK into the pass game

6. 11p - RPO Bubble vs. Cover 6 - Dart Blocking Scheme - Good call - 3 over 3 coverage - Dart actions holds the backer - we cross block the bubble to gain advantage on angles and pick up about 8 yards. This is the type of stuff that doesn't get noticed by anyone - the design of this play to 1) get a numbers advantage and 2) block it in a way to give us a huge advantage is a master class in play design.

7. 11p - T Choice vs. Quarters - Half Slide Protection - Patriots bring 6 - Protection was called correctly - Diggs is lined up in our backfield so Allen can't keep the back in for Scan protection - the 6th rusher will be free and Josh has to recognize that and throw hot off the 6th rusher - Allen recognizes the rushes - stares at Shakir who's our hot and instead of setting his feet and throwing he panics and tries to escape the pocket - should have been an easy pitch and catch - this ones on Allen

8. 12p - H Choice vs. Bracket - Slide Protection - Patriots rush 3 - Protection called correctly - Torrence blows the protection - after he realizes he doesn't have an outside threat he just freezes and doesn't help Morse who gets beat by Barmore - Josh still able to throw TD pass to Knox which was called back for OPI.

9. 12p - H Follow vs. Quarters - Slide Protection - Protection called correctly - Pats rush 3 spy 1 - Allen reads the H Follow side first sees it's not there and scrambles to the field - unfortunate because the patriots were in a version of Quarters where the corner mans 1 and the cover down and high safety are playing combo coverage on 2 and 3 - with the route concept we had called it set up a natural pick and both Knox and Kincaid were wide open

 

3rd Series

1. 11p - PAP Curl/Arrow vs. Cover 6 - BOB Protection - Patriots rush 4 - Protection called correctly - Allen hits Kincaid in the flat on the arrow

2. 11p - Flood vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - Protection called correctly - Patriots rush 4 - Torrence loses his 1v1 - Josh escapes the pocket and probably should have just dumped it to Murray and let him get what he could, but he tries to extend the play and has options in Knox and Diggs open - overthrows Diggs on the Out.

 

All I got time for right now, but I'll try and get some more done later tonight if I have time.

@Dukestreetking

 

4th Series

1. 11p - Curl/Swing vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - Pats rush 4 - correct protection - Allen throws to Kincaid on the curl

2. 12p - PAP Deep Curl vs. Cover 3 - BOB Protection - Pats send 6 because we 7 man protect it - Allen hits Kincaid over the middle

3. 11p - Curl/Arrow vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - called correctly - Hit Davis on the Curl

4. 12p - PAP HBO vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - called correctly - Looked for Diggs on the Out n' Up - Patriots shaded his side and forced Josh to look backside - had Davis open on the route conversion - Allen over throws out of bounds with pressure in his face - Godchaux beat Morse with a spin after a failed chop rip - Josh held the ball too long (just over 4 seconds in the pocket)

5. 11p - Snag 7 vs. Cover 2 - Slide Protection - called correctly - Pats rush 4 - Allen hits Kincaid on the snag

6. 11p - Mesh vs. Man 7 - Full Slide Protection - Pats rush 6 - Protection set correctly - Allen is responsible for the free rusher off the edge - wants to throw the hot to Cook - but it's covered - Torrence and Morse both get badly beat - this is a dead play that Allen needs to just dirt

7. 11p - Switch Choice vs. Quarters - Slide Protection - Pats rush 5 - Allen initially looks boundary side Smash concept - sees the corner sink and moves on - sees corner/safety playing the vertical seam by Davis - looks like he's throwing a blind ball (or he's throwing it away) to what he assumes will be Switch Verts to the near pylon but Shakir rightly converted it to a hitch because the flat defender had vertical leverage on him

 

That's your first half.

[Big Turk]

57 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

 

@Dukestreetking

 

4th Series

1. 11p - Curl/Swing vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - Pats rush 4 - correct protection - Allen throws to Kincaid on the curl

2. 12p - PAP Deep Curl vs. Cover 3 - BOB Protection - Pats send 6 because we 7 man protect it - Allen hits Kincaid over the middle

3. 11p - Curl/Arrow vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - called correctly - Hit Davis on the Curl

4. 12p - PAP HBO vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - called correctly - Looked for Diggs on the Out n' Up - Patriots shaded his side and forced Josh to look backside - had Davis open on the route conversion - Allen over throws out of bounds with pressure in his face - Godchaux beat Morse with a spin after a failed chop rip - Josh held the ball too long (just over 4 seconds in the pocket)

5. 11p - Snag 7 vs. Cover 2 - Slide Protection - called correctly - Pats rush 4 - Allen hits Kincaid on the snag

6. 11p - Mesh vs. Man 7 - Full Slide Protection - Pats rush 6 - Protection set correctly - Allen is responsible for the free rusher off the edge - wants to throw the hot to Cook - but it's covered - Torrence and Morse both get badly beat - this is a dead play that Allen needs to just dirt

7. 11p - Switch Choice vs. Quarters - Slide Protection - Pats rush 5 - Allen initially looks boundary side Smash concept - sees the corner sink and moves on - sees corner/safety playing the vertical seam by Davis - looks like he's throwing a blind ball (or he's throwing it away) to what he assumes will be Switch Verts to the near pylon but Shakir rightly converted it to a hitch because the flat defender had vertical leverage on him

 

That's your first half.

 

So it appears like you are saying for the most part Allen is diagnosing protections properly and doing things the right way regarding progressions, etc...why do you think he seems to be struggling so much against the blitz recently versus 2020 then?  He used to destroy teams if they chose to blitz and now it seems to be causing him issues.  Are there times he should be using his legs to make teams pay for doing it that he isn't and instead trying to become a Justin Herbert clone?

Edited October 25, 2023 by Big Turk

[HoofHearted]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

So it appears like you are saying for the most part Allen is diagnosing protections properly and doing things the right way regarding progressions, etc...why do you think he seems to be struggling so much against the blitz recently versus 2020 then?  He used to destroy teams if they chose to blitz and now it seems to be causing him issues.  Are there times he should be using his legs to make teams pay for doing it that he isn't and instead trying to become a Justin Herbert clone?

To be honest there was really only one opportunity for him to step up and escape the pocket and he ended up getting tripped up on it. Teams are doing a good job collapsing the pocket on us.

[Simon]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

First, thank you for taking the time to do this. Can you maybe share your thoughts on why, if Allen was staring down the hot as to why he would just stare him down and not throw it? I can't see the play you are referring to but I am envisioning that he is open if he is the hot and Allen has identified the right throw... so why isn't he throwing it?  I have noticed other times that Allen sees the right guy but doesn't make the throw.  It baffles me why that is.

 

In that case in particular I thought it was just because he was hunting TD's inside the 10 and wasn't interested in picking up 3 yrds.

I don't think he was wrong.

[Scott7975]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

In that case in particular I thought it was just because he was hunting TD's inside the 10 and wasn't interested in picking up 3 yrds.

I don't think he was wrong.

could be that. I’m really not sure. I’ve seen it happen on quite a few plays in multiple games. It’s like he sees the guy but either doesn’t want the guy or doesn’t think the guy makes the play. Maybe he just doesn’t like the throw from his stance or the throwing lane. I just don’t know. It’s really boggling because he definitely sees the guy. 

Edited October 25, 2023 by Scott7975

[AlfaBill]

On 10/23/2023 at 12:00 PM, Success said:

A minor pet peeve - yesterday was the warmest handshake BB has given McD.

 

He's usually pretty quick & gruff, but he actually pulled McD in for a quick hug and said a few things this time.

 

It's what we know about him:  he's just a sore loser.  Anyone can be gracious when they win.

 

Another reason to dislike that Prlck 

[Scott7975]

On 10/23/2023 at 2:00 PM, Success said:

A minor pet peeve - yesterday was the warmest handshake BB has given McD.

 

He's usually pretty quick & gruff, but he actually pulled McD in for a quick hug and said a few things this time.

 

It's what we know about him:  he's just a sore loser.  Anyone can be gracious when they win.

 

I mean, he has hugged and given Josh a talk after getting whooped before so that isn’t always the case. McD and Daboll was the same thing the week before. 

Edited October 25, 2023 by Scott7975

[Success]

Just now, Scott7975 said:

I mean, he has hugged and given Josh a talk after getting whooped before so that isn’t always the case. 

 

I've noticed that - you're right.

 

In those games, I noticed he did the no-look handshake w/ McD, and made a beeline for Josh.  I think the football enthusiast in him really appreciates how JA plays.

[HoofHearted]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

In that case in particular I thought it was just because he was hunting TD's inside the 10 and wasn't interested in picking up 3 yrds.

I don't think he was wrong.

I really do think it’s because of his feet the more I watch it. He was off-base and did have a guy right in his face.

[Dukestreetking]

9 hours ago, HoofHearted said:

1st Series

1. 12p - Flood vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection to the Field - Good Concept vs. the Cover 3 look, Patriots bring 5 - protection is good - we slide to the pressure - Josh's eyes are good - corner came off late like it's taught and josh threw an underthrown floater to the out.

 

2nd Series

1. 11p - H Follow vs. Cover 1 - Half Slide Protection to the Field - Great concept getting the rub vs man coverage - Patriots bring 4 - protection is good - throw is good.

2. 11p - HBO vs. Bracket - Slide Protection to the Field - Protection was called correctly - Patriots bring 3 and spy with the 4th - Brown lost his 1v1 - Nice throw and catch between Allen and Cook on the scramble drill. Allen worked the two receiver side vs the man look to go for the big play to Sherfield on the vertical - had Diggs to the field early (even though they had bracket coverage on him on a rub - looked there but protection was breaking down and didn't have a base set to throw.

3. 11p - PAP Corner-Post Concept vs. Cover 3 - Outside Zone Blocking Scheme - Based off the protection it looks like Josh got too wide in his drop and then got caught outside of his pocket and was forced to roll to the sideline and eventually eat it. Play was designed to bring the defense down to the OZ side and then hit Diggs on the Post as it cross the MoF Safeties face. Dig route by the Tight End brought the underneath defenders forward to create the open spacing for Diggs to be wide open if Allen were able to sit inside Brown within the protection.

4. 11p - Curl/Arrow vs. 1 Rat - Half Slide Protection - Patriots rush 5 - Protection is called correctly - Good coverage - Allen recognizes man and tries to take off - gets tripped up - Barmore beats Morse with a club rip and gets widened into Dawkins allowing DE to work back upfield to get to Allen

5. 11p - Tunnel vs. Man - Good pitch and catch for a 1st Down to Cook. Great call vs. what we got from the defense and a great way to SCHEME COOK into the pass game

6. 11p - RPO Bubble vs. Cover 6 - Dart Blocking Scheme - Good call - 3 over 3 coverage - Dart actions holds the backer - we cross block the bubble to gain advantage on angles and pick up about 8 yards. This is the type of stuff that doesn't get noticed by anyone - the design of this play to 1) get a numbers advantage and 2) block it in a way to give us a huge advantage is a master class in play design.

7. 11p - T Choice vs. Quarters - Half Slide Protection - Patriots bring 6 - Protection was called correctly - Diggs is lined up in our backfield so Allen can't keep the back in for Scan protection - the 6th rusher will be free and Josh has to recognize that and throw hot off the 6th rusher - Allen recognizes the rushes - stares at Shakir who's our hot and instead of setting his feet and throwing he panics and tries to escape the pocket - should have been an easy pitch and catch - this ones on Allen

8. 12p - H Choice vs. Bracket - Slide Protection - Patriots rush 3 - Protection called correctly - Torrence blows the protection - after he realizes he doesn't have an outside threat he just freezes and doesn't help Morse who gets beat by Barmore - Josh still able to throw TD pass to Knox which was called back for OPI.

9. 12p - H Follow vs. Quarters - Slide Protection - Protection called correctly - Pats rush 3 spy 1 - Allen reads the H Follow side first sees it's not there and scrambles to the field - unfortunate because the patriots were in a version of Quarters where the corner mans 1 and the cover down and high safety are playing combo coverage on 2 and 3 - with the route concept we had called it set up a natural pick and both Knox and Kincaid were wide open

 

3rd Series

1. 11p - PAP Curl/Arrow vs. Cover 6 - BOB Protection - Patriots rush 4 - Protection called correctly - Allen hits Kincaid in the flat on the arrow

2. 11p - Flood vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - Protection called correctly - Patriots rush 4 - Torrence loses his 1v1 - Josh escapes the pocket and probably should have just dumped it to Murray and let him get what he could, but he tries to extend the play and has options in Knox and Diggs open - overthrows Diggs on the Out.

 

All I got time for right now, but I'll try and get some more done later tonight if I have time.

 

@Big Turk You had asked about protections I think.

 

Hoof: can't thank you enough brother. Read thru all the posts a couple of times. This is incredibly useful insight re what I/others see on the field.

 

My only "critique": this is such a great basis for discussion that it deserves a stand alone thread!

[Simon]

16 hours ago, HoofHearted said:

I really do think it’s because of his feet the more I watch it. He was off-base and did have a guy right in his face.

 

I thought he wanted to get to his right to open up the angle to Knox but it wasn't happening.

Wonder if it is because guys are being coached to leverage him to his left on the rush to keep him from rolling toward his arm.

[dollars 2 donuts]

 

 

 

 

"Besides that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was "Our American Cousin"? Huh?  HUH?  Good stuff, amirite?  Yeah, you betcha."

 

 

 

 

[Dukestreetking]

20 hours ago, HoofHearted said:

 

@Dukestreetking

 

4th Series

1. 11p - Curl/Swing vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - Pats rush 4 - correct protection - Allen throws to Kincaid on the curl

2. 12p - PAP Deep Curl vs. Cover 3 - BOB Protection - Pats send 6 because we 7 man protect it - Allen hits Kincaid over the middle

3. 11p - Curl/Arrow vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - called correctly - Hit Davis on the Curl

4. 12p - PAP HBO vs. Cover 3 - Half Slide Protection - called correctly - Looked for Diggs on the Out n' Up - Patriots shaded his side and forced Josh to look backside - had Davis open on the route conversion - Allen over throws out of bounds with pressure in his face - Godchaux beat Morse with a spin after a failed chop rip - Josh held the ball too long (just over 4 seconds in the pocket)

5. 11p - Snag 7 vs. Cover 2 - Slide Protection - called correctly - Pats rush 4 - Allen hits Kincaid on the snag

6. 11p - Mesh vs. Man 7 - Full Slide Protection - Pats rush 6 - Protection set correctly - Allen is responsible for the free rusher off the edge - wants to throw the hot to Cook - but it's covered - Torrence and Morse both get badly beat - this is a dead play that Allen needs to just dirt

7. 11p - Switch Choice vs. Quarters - Slide Protection - Pats rush 5 - Allen initially looks boundary side Smash concept - sees the corner sink and moves on - sees corner/safety playing the vertical seam by Davis - looks like he's throwing a blind ball (or he's throwing it away) to what he assumes will be Switch Verts to the near pylon but Shakir rightly converted it to a hitch because the flat defender had vertical leverage on him

 

That's your first half.

 

Ok, so if I have this correctly, is it fair to say, at least for first half:

 

--Pre-snap protection calls and then communication (Dorsey-17-Oline) were damn good.

--Lots of slide protections, understandably, and especially half-slides. As I recall, the latter is your "basic, day 1" call, so it should be relatively "easy" to have full knowledge and execute.

--Not dealing with the actual throws: it seems 17 made a couple of drop-back/pocket errors, be they mental or physical. I would then assume that, second half, he was better(?)

--First half was not Torrence's finest hour. 

 

Again, you're providing really valuable insights; I know it must be time consuming, so I'm especially appreciative.