Ed Oliver OUT Sunday

[zow2]

Good, McDermott is probably giving these guys unofficial "vet rest" games if they are dinged up a bit.  I'm sure if it was the playoffs he'd be in there this Sunday.  Keep the team as healthy as they can for the long haul.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

I will add this to the ever growing list of excuses.  Funny I didn't hear much about this heading into the game.  I'm sure you had it as being close though?

 

Didn't think it would be that important, but clearly it was. That's why they play the games on the field and not on paper.

Edited October 20, 2023 by Big Turk

[Bob Jones]

Earlier this week I thought somebody made a real good point when they said that all these injuries may be indirectly caused because these players virtually never go full speed/full contact in practice. 40 years ago in HS, we went full pads and full contact every practice, and I never got hurt! 😉😂

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

sure, why not?

 

why not lose a couple more starters while we're at it?

 

indian burial ground man

 

[I'm Spartacus]

Time for Poona the fire hydrant to show up and justify the preseason hype he was getting to come here.

[julian]

40 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

He is a great twitter follow for this, btw...

 

 

Awesome, thanks brother

[Franco_92]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

It's a foot/toe strain and doesn't appear to be serious. Per my usual source.

Sean also said Milano had his surgery - do you know if it's confirmed that his ACL is ok/new odds on him being healed in January? 

[PBF81]

2 hours ago, Gregg said:

Allen and company will score more than 30 points. Injuries or no injuries the Pats won't match the Bills score for score.

 

We said that re: the Giants as well, who were playing with their backup QB.  

 

 

1 hour ago, Bob Jones said:

Earlier this week I thought somebody made a real good point when they said that all these injuries may be indirectly caused because these players virtually never go full speed/full contact in practice. 40 years ago in HS, we went full pads and full contact every practice, and I never got hurt! 😉😂

 

Or because our defense is such a hyper defense that is so fast-paced.  The downside is that it obviously creates concern for whether or not they can keep that quasi-frenetic pace up.  IMO that's a source for a lot of these injuries.  I could very well be off though.  

 

 

[HOUSE]

Belichick will run the ball 55 times

Yes, he is that crazy.....

[Coach Tuesday]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I think @Coach Tuesday point is that they tend to be hyper-cautious with injuries.   And I do wonder if that creates an "oh I'm hurt, shouldn't play full speed" mentality with a guy like Ed Oliver that contributes to his disappearances every time he gets knicked up.    I thought Groot played tentative last game as well coming off an injury that didn't even take him out of the Miami game two weeks earlier.    Does their abundance of caution help or enable/create excuses for effort falling off. 

 

 

Yeah I mean it sounds like Oliver has a stubbed toe, basically - he has a history of foot injuries that crop up just when he's starting to come on strong, and which tend to become excuses for his leveling-off or missing time.  Now they're ruling him out for a divisional road game where they are already thin at the position, against a power-running team.  Really he can't suit up at least as a rotational pass rush option?  It just seems like it's a bit too easy for players to tap out under this regime.

Edited October 20, 2023 by Coach Tuesday

[Xwnyer]

NE a will run the ball up the middle all day long and toss in some nice play action. 

[Special K]

2 hours ago, Gregg said:

Allen and company will score more than 30 points. Injuries or no injuries the Pats won't match the Bills score for score.

 

That's exactly what we were saying before the Giants game!!🙂

 

I do agree with you, but nothing is a guarantee.

 

If the Bills played the Pats 10 times, the Bills would win 9 out of 10 times, but there's always that one.

[buffblue]

Time to fire up Rhamondre Stevenson in fantasy. Gonna be a challenge against the run. Hopefully the good offense shows up and it becomes a moot point.

 

Really sucks about Oliver. This is such a critical game for staying in the division race with the Dolphins, even if they lose to Philly. Can't go to 1-2 AFC East and 2-3 AFC with the Bengals the next conference team on the schedule. 

Edited October 20, 2023 by buffblue

[Big Turk]

43 minutes ago, Franco_92 said:

Sean also said Milano had his surgery - do you know if it's confirmed that his ACL is ok/new odds on him being healed in January? 

 

I thought they already said ACL was fine

6 minutes ago, buffblue said:

Time to fire up Rhamondre Stevenson in fantasy. Gonna be a challenge against the run. Hopefully the good offense shows up and it becomes a moot point.

 

Really sucks about Oliver. This is such a critical game for staying in the division race with the Dolphins, even if they lose to Philly. Can't go to 1-2 AFC East and 2-3 AFC with the Bengals the next conference team on the schedule. 

 

You realize the Pats have among the worst OLine and the worst running game in the NFL this year right?  It's not like normal where they still can run the ball. They are 31st in both running and passing this year and Stephenson hasn't even hit 60 yards in a game and is averaging under 3 YPC.

23 minutes ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said:

Belichick will run the ball 55 times

Yes, he is that crazy.....

 

For 125 yards.  Good luck.

Edited October 20, 2023 by Big Turk

[Saxum]

2 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

we ready for another game like the one here 2 years ago where they passed 3 times cause they could run whenever they wanted to?

 

May a panda sit on your head.

[BananaB]

Hope the O gets their ***** together

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, Gregg said:

No surprise as he wasn't practicing the past 2 days. Hopefully he can be ready by Thursday for Tampa Bay.

 

I'm thinking that may in part underlie the decision for him to be out....he was either going to play but be hampered Sunday then not be able to recover for Tampa, or, he might be able to play vs. Tampa if he's out now.

 

This is not gonna be pretty, No Lie.

[SoonerBillsFan]

3 hours ago, BigDingus said:

This is reminding me of last year again... Multiple key defensive players out every game 😓

 

Just can't catch a break. 

IF this keeps up, Terry needs to find out WTH is going on with our strength and conditioning staff

[GunnerBill]

That sucks. Tim Settle, Jordan Phillips, Poona Ford and Kendal Vickers. Yikes. 

 

Good job the Patriots suck. 

[buffblue]

16 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

You realize the Pats have among the worst OLine and the worst running game in the NFL this year right?  It's not like normal where they still can run the ball. They are 31st in both running and passing this year and Stephenson hasn't even hit 60 yards in a game and is averaging under 3 YPC.

And you realize that the Pats oline has been decimated by injuries but are likely getting back 3 of their 4 best lineman this week in Onwenu, Strange, and Brown, yes? 

Edited October 20, 2023 by buffblue