Simms: Gabe Davis is a good player, but he's not a number two

[SydneyBillsFan]

 

[BBFL]

Well this’ll make all the armchair GMs puff their chest. 
 

Half the board’s been saying this 😂

[ngbills]

Many wont say it until he is gone. When he is not resigned the story will change to he was not a #2 but wanted #2 money. 

[newcam2012]

5 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

 

I think Simms must have listened to what I've been saying. 

 

I wish Davis the best next year on his new team. 

[Buffalo Ballin]

Too bad that "Playoff Gabe Davis" doesn't show up during the regular season.

 

Reminds me of former Laker and Spur Robert Horry and Giants QB Eli Manning. They're inconsistent and low key during the regular season, but when playoff time comes, it's beast mode on.

[BillsFan130]

Gabe had a perfect role in 2020 and in 2021.

 

Benefitted when teams didn't put a lot of focus on him and capitalized on a lot of Josh Allen scrambles.

 

His problem is he struggles to consistently separate against CB2s, and has inconsistent hands

 

Not a good combo for a WR2

[Brand J]

What’s the average contract for a WR3? 

[BigDingus]

What does "not a number 2" even mean anymore?

 

Do you really mean he's not a number 1 playing the number 2 role like Jalen Waddle, Tee Higgins, Tyler Lockett or Devonta Smith?

 

What kind of production do you want out of your WR2? The vast majority of NFL teams would be thrilled to have a WR2 that puts up 800+ yards, 7 TD's & extends the field like Gabe does.

 

Even right now, he's ranked #27 in receiving yards (automatically putting him ahead of multiple #1's), tied for 4th place in TD's with 5 others (ahead of others like Jamar Chase, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Travis Kelce, Mike Evans, and many other WR1's, TE's, and RB's), and is only 61st in receptions. 

 

I'd say he's more than adequate as a WR2, with the only issue being he's not as big a threat in the short-intermediate game as we'd like.

[K D]

Gabe often plays like #2.

 

He would be the best WR3 in the league if we had a real #2 on this team. I want either a corner or a WR2 at the trade deadline or I'm challenging Beane to fisticuffs 

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

What does "not a number 2" even mean anymore?

 

Do you really mean he's not a number 1 playing the number 2 role like Jalen Waddle, Tee Higgins, Tyler Lockett or Devonta Smith?

 

What kind of production do you want out of your WR2? The vast majority of NFL teams would be thrilled to have a WR2 that puts up 800+ yards, 7 TD's & extends the field like Gabe does.

 

Even right now, he's ranked #27 in receiving yards (automatically putting him ahead of multiple #1's), tied for 4th place in TD's with 5 others (ahead of others like Jamar Chase, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Travis Kelce, Mike Evans, and many other WR1's, TE's, and RB's), and is only 61st in receptions. 

 

I'd say he's more than adequate as a WR2, with the only issue being he's not as big a threat in the short-intermediate game as we'd like.

But if we just look at “stats “, we also have to look deeper into the full picture 

 

How many targets he gets? And from that what’s his catch percentage? Drops? Contested catch rate? QB rating when targeting him?

 

Those numbers ^ were horrible for Gabe last year, and I’m guessing they aren’t great this year. (Maybe QB rating is ok as of this point)

[GustheDog33]

Big Game Gabe! He disappears for long stretches. Not sure what to attribute that to… he isn’t open or Josh is tired of the shenanigans so doesn’t throw to him. More than likely, though, Josh looks to Diggs 1st and Diggs is usually open. 

[dave mcbride]

6 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

What does "not a number 2" even mean anymore?

 

Do you really mean he's not a number 1 playing the number 2 role like Jalen Waddle, Tee Higgins, Tyler Lockett or Devonta Smith?

 

What kind of production do you want out of your WR2? The vast majority of NFL teams would be thrilled to have a WR2 that puts up 800+ yards, 7 TD's & extends the field like Gabe does.

 

Even right now, he's ranked #27 in receiving yards (automatically putting him ahead of multiple #1's), tied for 4th place in TD's with 5 others (ahead of others like Jamar Chase, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Travis Kelce, Mike Evans, and many other WR1's, TE's, and RB's), and is only 61st in receptions. 

 

I'd say he's more than adequate as a WR2, with the only issue being he's not as big a threat in the short-intermediate game as we'd like.

You’re focusing on numbers rather than his inability to separate, his shaky hands, and the fact that his numbers are mostly a product of the most talented QB in the league throwing to him because he’s (unfortunately) the second option.

[Warcodered]

Simms has basically been saying Josh needs more help all offseason.

[Low Positive]

I swear Simms reads these boards for topic ideas. If I was in his business, I would too. Guaranteed clicks because you’re feeding into existing arguments.

 

[LABILLBACKER]

17 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Many wont say it until he is gone. When he is not resigned the story will change to he was not a #2 but wanted #2 money. 

I'll say it now like I have for the last 3 years. He's not nor ever has been a #2. Nice #3 but no way we pay him anymore than keeping Edmunds. 

[uticaclub]

6 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I swear Simms reads these boards for topic ideas. If I was in his business, I would too. Guaranteed clicks because you’re feeding into existing arguments.

 

What we say is pretty obvious to anyone that pays attention or watches multiple Bills game. Most of us are just fans, very few experts I’m certainly not one

[oldmanfan]

15 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Gabe often plays like #2.

 

He would be the best WR3 in the league if we had a real #2 on this team. I want either a corner or a WR2 at the trade deadline or I'm challenging Beane to fisticuffs 

And he’d kick your ass.

[Maine-iac]

The problem isn't that Gabe isn't a #2 WR.  The problem is that there is no one catching passes outside of him and Diggs.  If we had a slot WR or TE who caught lots of underneath stuff and ran the seam once in a while (like Beasley used to) then we wouldn't be so focused on Davis catching 90 passes being more like Diggs.  We need a chain mover and Davis isn't a chain mover therefore it must be Davis's fault, except it isn't.

[oldmanfan]

The guy who predicted we’d lose to the Raiders.

[Maine-iac]

ps I wish Simms would grow some eyebrows.