NFL wants to eliminate "hip drop" tackles

[BaaadThingsMan]

Billsfan2313 must be an agent huh? 

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

How do they claim they are so concerned with player safety but still allow teams to play on garbage turf fields like the one at Tottenham's field?  Oh...that's right...because it's only an actual concern when it doesn't interfere with money.

Same thing with Thursday Night football. Health wise they should never be playing 2 games in 3-4 days. Shoot, last year didn't they let the Bills play 3 in 10 days?  That's just insanely negligent for what they put their bodies through 

[Buffalo ill]

This is weak and dumb.  They should have stopped with head shots and left everything else alone.  At this point they are desecrating the corpse of my once beloved game.

[Lost]

4 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Going to be even more flags.  Maybe we should just rename the entertainment, Flag Football. Not because they use flags to tackle but the ref is the most important person on the field. 

 

Already feels that way this season.  Ive never seen so many flags thrown before.

[27yankees]

7 hours ago, H2o said:

I miss these days

I remember that game

[Sherlock Holmes]

SWEEP THE LEG!!!!

[mrags]

7 hours ago, H2o said:

I miss these days

Jesus. Is that Atwater? I don’t ever remember Christian Okoye ever getting hammered like that. Dude was a monster. 

[Boatdrinks]

8 hours ago, Herc11 said:

 

How do you lead with your shoulder and drive through a player when trying to tackle from behind?

 

These tackles don't occur when the defensive player is facing them head on. It's typically from the side or the back when the defensive player is in pursuit. What's next? Once a player gets by you, you have to let them go?

Yup. You’re job is to get the ball carrier down on the ground. You’re not always in a position to make a form tackle. Very dumb idea. 

[Bob Jones]

8 hours ago, mrags said:

Jesus. Is that Atwater? I don’t ever remember Christian Okoye ever getting hammered like that. Dude was a monster. 

He even gave him the taunt afterwards. THROW THE FLAG! 🙄😂

[BearNorth]

Us old time Bills fans still use the Mike Stratton hit on Keith Lincoln in the AFC title game as the measuring stick for impactful tackles.

[Don Otreply]

17 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Ironic, the nfl want to keep putting safety rules in place yet injuries are sky rocking at a faster pace than ever before. Seems to be having the opposite affect. 

Well, like it or not, these guys hit/tackle each other with no concern about causing injury, in fact the players are taught to do it this way, the league knows this, and does the safety dance game to pretend they actually care, what they care about is liability…, 

[warrior9]

18 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Ironic, the nfl want to keep putting safety rules in place yet injuries are sky rocking at a faster pace than ever before. Seems to be having the opposite affect. 

Exactly, there are more injuries because players are having to think about every move. 

When you're a defender and you have to move you head back, can't go too low, can't tackle this way, etc.... you are putting yourself at risk. 

 

I think another issue is, there is far less hitting and tackling in practices so bodies arent used to it. 

18 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

now try imagine what it would look like w out the safety rules lol

 

it would be an absolute bloodbath

I disagree. Thinking too much puts you at more risk. 

There aren't rules for tackling other than no horse collar and no high hits. The more you implement, the more there will be. 

 

I genuinely believe the soft nature of practices has led to more injuries. You can't just walk through practice, get hit a minimal amount of times, and then expect to go full force with a 245 lb linebacker running a 4.3 with no injury.. it's lunacy. 

[Drew21PA]

Idk I’d the hip drop is as obvious as crown head hits or horse collar

 

im not for more “judgement” penalties 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Drew21PA said:

Idk I’d the hip drop is as obvious as crown head hits or horse collar

 

im not for more “judgement” penalties 

Well it's pretty obvious when you grab someone from behind , and just sit down all your weight on the back of his legs

 

It's different than diving and making a tackle

[colin]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Well it's pretty obvious when you grab someone from behind , and just sit down all your weight on the back of his legs

 

It's different than diving and making a tackle

 

you can "hip drop" your hips away from his legs, will be an effective tackle as well.  i think this is enforceable if they make it the grab, the drag, and the body onto the back of the legs.  eliminate one of the 3, no flag.

[Buffalo716]

20 minutes ago, colin said:

 

you can "hip drop" your hips away from his legs, will be an effective tackle as well.  i think this is enforceable if they make it the grab, the drag, and the body onto the back of the legs.  eliminate one of the 3, no flag.

In a game where people are flying around 20 miles an hour

 

It's a game of reaction not thinking... You really don't think in the moment to drop your hips away from his legs... Dropping your hips on his legs is what helps the tackle 

 

You're dropping on him in the speed of the game 

 

Somebody is running away from you and you're running up to him closing distance.. you're not dropping your hips away from him , you are sticking to him like glue

Edited October 19, 2023 by Buffalo716

[RobbRiddick]

On 10/18/2023 at 8:22 PM, H2o said:

I miss these days

Well this is a tough one. I loved football when it was like this, but if you say that then you're deemed a macho caveman who doesn't care about injuries etc. For me it's more about what the game is becoming - a glorified version of arena league where everything is geared to points being scored. The NFL must be pissed that offences are struggling this year. Although a lot of the time that's because of sloppy offensive play rather than brilliantly executed defense.

 

I remember watching the 49ers and Seahawks championship game back in the Legion of Boom days and absolutely loved it. It had a real old school cat and mouse feel about it with both defenses dominating and the refs were basically letting them play. I loved every minute of it and I remember thinking "this is the game I grew up loving". I think Brady said the NFL is really just college ball now and I really don't enjoy watching it as much, but I realize that's my age more than anything and people who watched the game in the 50s and 60s probably said the same thing about the K gun and run and shoot offenses. 

 

I think that's why I love Josh Allen so much, he has a real old school attitude about him when he trucks defenders and goes all in.

[Trekking]

31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

In a game where people are flying around 20 miles an hour

 

It's a game of reaction not thinking... You really don't think in the moment to drop your hips away from his legs... Dropping your hips on his legs is what helps the tackle 

 

You're dropping on him in the speed of the game 

 

Somebody is running away from you and you're running up to him closing distance.. you're not dropping your hips away from him , you are sticking to him like glue

In each rugby example it looked quite intentional 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Trekking said:

In each rugby example it looked quite intentional 

People know what they're doing

 

That was my point they just react and do it... They don't have to think about doing it they just do it

Edited October 19, 2023 by Buffalo716

[Saint Doug]

Everyone and their kids knows that it’s very hard to take someone down if you aim high, unless you aim for their heads - which is a no no. It’s much more efficient to aim low and wrap them up. Going too low is bad too, because all the player needs to do it jump or regain their balance. So, how does the NFL expect players to efficiently tackle players? Maybe the NFL should begin training players on how to prepare to be tackled.