NFL wants to eliminate "hip drop" tackles

[BaaadThingsMan]

I think they should,  those tackles lead to alot of injuries. 

 

In my opinion those types of tackles are weak and cowardice.

 

If you can't tackle a player without laying on the back of his legs like that then you shouldn't be in the league. 

[Dr.Sack]

It’s definitely like a horse collar tackle. 

[GoBills808]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:02 PM, Buffalo619 said:

Ironic, the nfl want to keep putting safety rules in place yet injuries are sky rocking at a faster pace than ever before. Seems to be having the opposite affect. 

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now try imagine what it would look like w out the safety rules lol

 

it would be an absolute bloodbath

[BaaadThingsMan]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:05 PM, GoBills808 said:

now try imagine what it would look like w out the safety rules lol

 

it would be an absolute bloodbath

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Like the 70s and 80s

[ngbills]

Guys would get hurt if it were flag football. I wonder how many injuries are due to big hits vs just random stuff. Most of our injuries have all seemed to be on normal plays that could not be avoided with some rule change. 

[uninja]

I do sometimes wonder how you're supposed to officiate or control how this works in a game as fast and as violent as NFL football. We're favoring the passing game, so defenders are getting smaller, faster and more agile/athletic. As a result, they're being forced to tackle players that are bigger than them. That puts the defender at a disadvantage when trying to tackle. What is the defenders supposed to do other than drop their legs out from under them, using the weight of their body as a means to create dead weight and bring the offensive player down?

 

So many of these ticky tack rules, it makes for a worse overall game because if the play isn't executed perfectly by everyone on the field the offensive is either gifted a fresh set of downs or is walking back 10-15 yards and the drive is basically on life support.

 

Frankly, and I know this sounds insane, but they should just get rid of pads/helmets and force the players to play that way. Instead of trying to legislate safety but forcing players to wear more armor and get faster/stronger, force players to protect their bodies because there isn't anything protect them. 

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:02 PM, Buffalo619 said:

Ironic, the nfl want to keep putting safety rules in place yet injuries are sky rocking at a faster pace than ever before. Seems to be having the opposite affect. 

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The league needs to do a better job at maintaining their playing fields. Natural grass is the safest choice and a multibillion dollar league shouldn't cheap out on astroturf while claiming to promote player safety.

[BaaadThingsMan]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:08 PM, Allen2Diggs said:

The league needs to do a better job at maintaining their playing fields. Natural grass is the safest choice and a multibillion dollar league shouldn't cheap out on astroturf while claiming to promote player safety.

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Agreed. That should be priority one. 

[Warcodered]

It'd be helpful if they included a clip of what they were talking about, a lot harder to understand just from a still.

[GoBills808]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:07 PM, BaaadThingsMan said:

Like the 70s and 80s

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w todays athletes lol

[BaaadThingsMan]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:08 PM, uninja said:

I do sometimes wonder how you're supposed to officiate or control how this works in a game as fast and as violent as NFL football. We're favoring the passing game, so defenders are getting smaller, faster and more agile/athletic. As a result, they're being forced to tackle players that are bigger than them. That puts the defender at a disadvantage when trying to tackle. What is the defenders supposed to do other than drop their legs out from under them, using the weight of their body as a means to create dead weight and bring the offensive player down?

 

So many of these ticky tack rules, it makes for a worse overall game because if the play isn't executed perfectly by everyone on the field the offensive is either gifted a fresh set of downs or is walking back 10-15 yards and the drive is basically on life support.

 

Frankly, and I know this sounds insane, but they should just get rid of pads/helmets and force the players to play that way. Instead of trying to legislate safety but forcing players to wear more armor and get faster/stronger, force players to protect their bodies because there isn't anything protect them. 

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They are supposed to tackle the way they were taught as kids.

 

Either lead with your shoulder and drive thru the man keeping your head up or hit and wrap your arms around their legs.

 

Grabbing on and dropping your dead weight onto a runners legs isn't taught on any fields. 

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:11 PM, Warcodered said:

It'd be helpful if they included a clip of what they were talking about, a lot harder to understand just from a still.

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The picture shows a version of the tackle.

 

Look at the runners ankle snapping. 

Edited October 18, 2023 by BaaadThingsMan

[RoyBatty is alive]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:11 PM, Warcodered said:

It'd be helpful if they included a clip of what they were talking about, a lot harder to understand just from a still.

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This is for rugby but explains it well.

Edited October 18, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive

[Bray Wyatt]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:11 PM, Warcodered said:

It'd be helpful if they included a clip of what they were talking about, a lot harder to understand just from a still.

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Basically, the player grabs them from behind and then just uses their weight to pull them down. They let "their hips drop" to the ground to bring them down.

[Fleezoid]

The irony of implementing the Horse Collar Tackle rule then all the players stopped wearing them.

[H2o]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:05 PM, GoBills808 said:

now try imagine what it would look like w out the safety rules lol

 

it would be an absolute bloodbath

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I miss these days

[Herc11]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:13 PM, BaaadThingsMan said:

They are supposed to tackle the way they were taught as kids.

 

Either lead with your shoulder and drive thru the man keeping your head up or hit and wrap your arms around their legs.

 

Grabbing on and dropping your dead weight onto a runners legs isn't taught on any fields. 

The picture shows a version of the tackle.

 

Look at the runners ankle snapping. 

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How do you lead with your shoulder and drive through a player when trying to tackle from behind?

 

These tackles don't occur when the defensive player is facing them head on. It's typically from the side or the back when the defensive player is in pursuit. What's next? Once a player gets by you, you have to let them go?

[BaaadThingsMan]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:26 PM, Herc11 said:

 

How do you lead with your shoulder and drive through a player when trying to tackle from behind?

 

These tackles don't occur when the defensive player is facing them head on. It's typically from the side or the back when the defensive player is in pursuit. What's next? Once a player gets by you, you have to let them go?

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In that case you go for the legs

[Herc11]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:26 PM, BaaadThingsMan said:

In that case you go for the legs

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Right. The two moving parts that are significantly more difficult to get a hold of than the body.

[DapperCam]

This will be very difficult to enforce 

[BaaadThingsMan]

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:28 PM, Herc11 said:

Right. The two moving parts that are significantly more difficult to get a hold of than the body.

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Specifically the lower legs. You hit and wrap your arms around their lower legs. 

  On 10/18/2023 at 7:26 PM, Herc11 said:

 

How do you lead with your shoulder and drive through a player when trying to tackle from behind?

 

These tackles don't occur when the defensive player is facing them head on. It's typically from the side or the back when the defensive player is in pursuit. What's next? Once a player gets by you, you have to let them go?

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BTW you can hit someone from the side and drive through the tackle FYI