Are people really that unhappy with our 4-2 Bills?

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

I am unhappy that the Patriots are 1-5 and secretly tanking for Caleb Williams.

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said:

I am unhappy that the Patriots are 1-5 and secretly tanking for Caleb Williams.

No way. The Panthers will get that done for the Bears.

[PonyBoy]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Things have to go pretty perfect for any team to win a championship 

 

Agree.. but when is its Buffalo's turn?

The fan base has been loyal to a fault forever. I left a long time ago, but I know how much it means to people back there & me still. 

 

I'm a Red Sox fan who grew up in NY. 2004 was all I needed, the others were gravy.

I want the Bills to have that one ring to say to everyone Get Off Our A**! 

To see the jubilation of Bills Mafia!

[oldmanfan]

3 minutes ago, PonyBoy said:

 

Agree.. but when is its Buffalo's turn?

The fan base has been loyal to a fault forever. I left a long time ago, but I know how much it means to people back there & me still. 

 

I'm a Red Sox fan who grew up in NY. 2004 was all I needed, the others were gravy.

I want the Bills to have that one ring to say to everyone Get Off Our A**! 

To see the jubilation of Bills Mafia!

As a guy that has been a fan since opening day 1960 I have the AFL championships.  But I feel as you do.  It takes talent, and some luck to break your way at the right time.

[BillsFanForever19]

8 hours ago, eball said:

I just don't know what to make of this board and our fans these days.  To the uninformed observer, if you just looked at the threads on the first page you'd assume this was a bottom-feeding squad.  The Bills are #3 in scoring offense and scoring defense, +4 in takeaways, and are right in the position most expected them to be when the season began.

 

Nobody ever won the Super Bowl in October, and history is replete with scads of teams that looked "unbeatable" at this juncture and didn't lift the Lombardi.

 

Lately, the issue is with <yawn> Dorsey again...bad gameplan, can't get the ball to anyone other than Diggs, yada, yada, yada.  What I saw Sunday night was a slow start on offense fueled by an untimely fumble, a drop, and a fantastic tip/interception by the Giants on a pass headed to Knox for a big gainer.  When the team returned from halftime they marched down the field twice for TDs and were a fingertip catch away from icing the game.

 

Is everything perfect?  Of course not!  But it never is, and crucifying Dorsey on October 18 -- two weeks after he was called brilliant for his gameplan vs. Miami -- is the perfect lens through which to view Bills fans.

 

Maybe a lot of you really have nothing else to do but sit around and dream up wild conspiracy theories about how Josh could force his way out of Buffalo, psychoanalyze whether Brian Daboll and Sean McDermott have a blood feud, or criticize the Bills for using Diggs as their first option in the passing game.

 

They lost two games by a total of 11 points!

 

The ONLY thing that matters is that the Bills grind out wins so they put themselves into decent playoff position, and that they are playing their best football in DECEMBER.

 

"But it's a fan message board.  That's what we do."

 

Ok.  You be you.  I'll continue to look at what is going right, share my opinions in an upbeat way, and show some faith in the players and coaches to work on what they need to work on.  This can still be a very special season; the league is wide open.

 

Go Bills!

18-2, Babyyyyyy!!!

 

The problem around here is that we've had a good to very good team for a while. The bar has been raised.

 

In the drought years, this would be thrilling. But we've won the division and gotten playoff wins consistently. The desire the past couple years has been Super Bowl or bust.

 

So when we struggle to beat bad teams or lose to bad teams, it's completely unacceptable now. When you watch the team come down to the last play against the Giants, it doesn't feel like a Super Bowl team.

 

Good on you that you just want to look on the bright side. But there is merit on the other side as well. And a post like this comes off way holier than thou.

[Richard Noggin]

Was hoping this was a poll. 

 

Remember when the team was 7-6 and REELING, but then in most fans' opinions, in the playoffs that same season, SHOULD have defeated the Chiefs and then the Bengals and then the Rams to win a 'ship?

 

No awards that matter for being #1 wire-to-wire. Gotta get into the tournament. That's what the regular season is for.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

8 hours ago, eball said:

I just don't know what to make of this board and our fans these days.  To the uninformed observer, if you just looked at the threads on the first page you'd assume this was a bottom-feeding squad.  The Bills are #3 in scoring offense and scoring defense, +4 in takeaways, and are right in the position most expected them to be when the season began.

 

Nobody ever won the Super Bowl in October, and history is replete with scads of teams that looked "unbeatable" at this juncture and didn't lift the Lombardi.

 

Lately, the issue is with <yawn> Dorsey again...bad gameplan, can't get the ball to anyone other than Diggs, yada, yada, yada.  What I saw Sunday night was a slow start on offense fueled by an untimely fumble, a drop, and a fantastic tip/interception by the Giants on a pass headed to Knox for a big gainer.  When the team returned from halftime they marched down the field twice for TDs and were a fingertip catch away from icing the game.

 

Is everything perfect?  Of course not!  But it never is, and crucifying Dorsey on October 18 -- two weeks after he was called brilliant for his gameplan vs. Miami -- is the perfect lens through which to view Bills fans.

 

Maybe a lot of you really have nothing else to do but sit around and dream up wild conspiracy theories about how Josh could force his way out of Buffalo, psychoanalyze whether Brian Daboll and Sean McDermott have a blood feud, or criticize the Bills for using Diggs as their first option in the passing game.

 

They lost two games by a total of 11 points!

 

The ONLY thing that matters is that the Bills grind out wins so they put themselves into decent playoff position, and that they are playing their best football in DECEMBER.

 

"But it's a fan message board.  That's what we do."

 

Ok.  You be you.  I'll continue to look at what is going right, share my opinions in an upbeat way, and show some faith in the players and coaches to work on what they need to work on.  This can still be a very special season; the league is wide open.

 

Go Bills!

18-2, Babyyyyyy!!!

 

 

I think it’s mainly about the recent injuries to 3 very important core players with a touch of the ineptness of Dorsey. 

[ChrisWatson#21]

I’m happy.  What has peaking early in the season gotten the Bills the last few years?  Better to look ugly early then get hot at the end of the season.  Besides with all this gambling on apps going down I’m sure it will be more profitable if the Bills win it all at higher odds.  

[Buffalo Super Fan]

Look the only lose that I was unhappy as a Buffalo Bills fan happened while I was sick in the hospital was the opener against the New York Jets. That Bills loss was a embarrassment and is why the Bills aren’t in first place in the AFC East. It was a really bad loss that could potentially cost this Bills team big time at the end of the regular season. There was no reason for the Bills to not be prepared and the Bills were healthy so no excuse for that in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

Edited October 19, 2023 by Buffalo Super Fan

[90sBills]

9 hours ago, ngbills said:

Then lets just shut down these boards until January. Come on folks. It does not take a genius to see see and acknowledge at 4-2 the Bills have underperformed. That does not mean it wont change. Its just where they are right now. Going back to why at 4-2 many people are negative. Because they are not where they should be and even the coaches see it. They have plenty of time between now and January to do just that. 

Why is it so easy for people to say the 5-1 MIA Dolphins are not that good. They have beat no one and the defense sucks. The 5-1 KC Chiefs do not look Super Bowl caliber. They have no WR's and Mahomes looks like trash. But being disappointed in a 4-2 Bills team that has lost to NYJ (Zach Wilson), Jax, and nearly lost to a Tyrod Taylor led Giant team, makes you clueless and or a bad fan for some reason. I bet a lot of Chiefs fans think they should be playing better and they should. We are in the same boat, which is a good thing not a bad one. 

You’re speaking too much truth! Mia and KC. Both teams that are ahead of the Bills in the standings but are somehow not very good but the Bills with all the injuries will still go further. I’ve even seen comments like the Jags are more dangerous than the Chiefs even though the Chiefs beat the Jags at their place…while ‘struggling’ no less. I’m not sure if these opinions are homer based and just not accepting reality. Perhaps both.

 

The clear reality is the Bills have been inconsistent on offense while losing some key components on defense. It will be tough to reach their ultimate goal this year imo. But there’s a lot of football left so we’ll see. 

[transplantbillsfan]

No. I'm not. No undefeated teams and we all need to start understanding that it really is ONLY about Ws and "how you look in the W" doesn't even start mattering until the end of the year when we're in the playoffs.

 

And yes... we'll make the playoffs... duh!!!

[longtimebillsfan]

12 hours ago, eball said:

I just don't know what to make of this board and our fans these days.  To the uninformed observer, if you just looked at the threads on the first page you'd assume this was a bottom-feeding squad.  The Bills are #3 in scoring offense and scoring defense, +4 in takeaways, and are right in the position most expected them to be when the season began.

 

Nobody ever won the Super Bowl in October, and history is replete with scads of teams that looked "unbeatable" at this juncture and didn't lift the Lombardi.

 

Lately, the issue is with <yawn> Dorsey again...bad gameplan, can't get the ball to anyone other than Diggs, yada, yada, yada.  What I saw Sunday night was a slow start on offense fueled by an untimely fumble, a drop, and a fantastic tip/interception by the Giants on a pass headed to Knox for a big gainer.  When the team returned from halftime they marched down the field twice for TDs and were a fingertip catch away from icing the game.

 

Is everything perfect?  Of course not!  But it never is, and crucifying Dorsey on October 18 -- two weeks after he was called brilliant for his gameplan vs. Miami -- is the perfect lens through which to view Bills fans.

 

Maybe a lot of you really have nothing else to do but sit around and dream up wild conspiracy theories about how Josh could force his way out of Buffalo, psychoanalyze whether Brian Daboll and Sean McDermott have a blood feud, or criticize the Bills for using Diggs as their first option in the passing game.

 

They lost two games by a total of 11 points!

 

The ONLY thing that matters is that the Bills grind out wins so they put themselves into decent playoff position, and that they are playing their best football in DECEMBER.

 

"But it's a fan message board.  That's what we do."

 

Ok.  You be you.  I'll continue to look at what is going right, share my opinions in an upbeat way, and show some faith in the players and coaches to work on what they need to work on.  This can still be a very special season; the league is wide open.

 

Go Bills!

18-2, Babyyyyyy!!!

 

 

I agree with your analysis.  But the lynch mob that is wanting to fire McDermott or Dorsey after a loss or a lack luster win do not represent the main stream Bills fan.  Most Bills fans appreciate what we have and what Beane and McDermott have accomplished.

 

These sad sacks are just miserable and will always find something to get mad at.  These are the same people that wanted to fire Daboll two years ago, and now they want him back.

 

Don't let these few whiners color your opinion of the best fan base in the NFL.

 

Go Bills!!!

[Chandler#81]

We expect to contend for a title. We have an other-worldly QB and at least 2 other sure fire HOF’ers. TSW naysayers notwithstanding, Beane has constructed the best roster of his tenure. Key major Injuries to essential players (stars) early have knocked us off our mark and we’re still trying to adapt with unproven replacements. The current silver lining is the ‘easier’ part of our schedule while we attempt to re-form. Dorian Williams has real potential as does O’Cyrus Torrence as does Bernard & Benford. Even with the huge loss of Jones, our DL is super strong and Von is returning. 
That we haven’t lit up the scoreboard since the debacle in London has our nervous Nellies ready to jump off a bridge or fire every coach, which is ridiculous. The Conference 1 seed may not be attainable -MAY NOT..- but as these new starters progress with on field guidance of cagey vets, we should be rolling by seasons’ end. Then we might -MIGHT- be surprised who returns from injury at that time.

So, ‘unhappy’? Yeah, probably. But we’re still alive and still a very talented team.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Was hoping this was a poll. 

 

Remember when the team was 7-6 and REELING, but then in most fans' opinions, in the playoffs that same season, SHOULD have defeated the Chiefs and then the Bengals and then the Rams to win a 'ship?

 

No awards that matter for being #1 wire-to-wire. Gotta get into the tournament. That's what the regular season is for.

EXACTLY.

 

The regular season exists for one purpose: making the playoffs.

[BillsFan692]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:

Look the only lose that I was unhappy as a Buffalo Bills fan happened while I was sick in the hospital was the opener against the New York Jets. That Bills loss was a embarrassment and is why the Bills aren’t in first place in the AFC East. It was a really bad loss that could potentially cost this Bills team big time at the end of the regular season. There was no reason for the Bills to not be prepared and the Bills were healthy so no excuse for that in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

Didnt the NY jets just beat the undefeated Philadelphia Eagles? Reigning NFC champions?

 

Didnt NY jets also NEARLY beat KC if not for some Tay Tay officiating?

 

I think its time to realize the jets defense is really, really good and stop acting like they are a trash team

 

 

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

We expect to contend for a title. We have an other-worldly QB and at least 2 other sure fire HOF’ers. TSW naysayers notwithstanding, Beane has constructed the best roster of his tenure. Key major Injuries to essential players (stars) early have knocked us off our mark and we’re still trying to adapt with unproven replacements. The current silver lining is the ‘easier’ part of our schedule while we attempt to re-form. Dorian Williams has real potential as does O’Cyrus Torrence as does Bernard & Benford. Even with the huge loss of Jones, our DL is super strong and Von is returning. 
That we haven’t lit up the scoreboard since the debacle in London has our nervous Nellies ready to jump off a bridge or fire every coach, which is ridiculous. The Conference 1 seed may not be attainable -MAY NOT..- but as these new starters progress with on field guidance of cagey vets, we should be rolling by seasons’ end. Then we might -MIGHT- be surprised who returns from injury at that time.

So, ‘unhappy’? Yeah, probably. But we’re still alive and still a very talented team.

Just talented enough to fail in the playoffs like we've seen in consecutive years in the McD era. 

 

Haven't you been spilling this diarrhea for years now? 

 

It sounds great Chandler. Almost got me to do some jumping jacks in my Bills uniform while I hear the song Bills wanna make me shout. 

 

This team needs to progress further. Beat the Chiefs on the playoffs, beat Cinci in the playoffs, get to an AFC championship game, represent the AFC, get a ring, ... 

 

All the cheerleading  and optimism falls on deaf ears here. It time for the Bills to put up or shut up. Thus far, this year appears to be heading in the direction of the previous years. Good but not good enough. 

 

With that said, the Bills are 4-2. By my math they played 6 games. Three good games and three poop ones. 

 

There's plenty of time to get things right and or get wrong. It remains to be seen what the outcome will be. 

Edited October 19, 2023 by newcam2012

[mike22nc]

16 hours ago, ngbills said:

Its about expectations. Are you happy with a playoff contender or do you want a championship. The question is - will it be easier or harder to win next year, the next, etc. With Josh Allen's age and contract plus other players age the time is now to win. So when the team is on track to "only" be fighting for a playoff spot it leads to disappointment. 

Which teams have won a championship so far this year?

[SoCal Deek]

It was way less stressful when all we had to worry about was being shown to be ‘in the hunt’ on Thanksgiving Day. Those were the days! 

[mjt328]

Until the Buffalo Bills finally win a Super Bowl, many fans are going to have a really hard time just enjoying week-to-week success.

This is just reality.

 

I'm 44 years old, and grew up with the 90s Bills...watching us totally dominate the AFC.  It was a fun time, and I have many great memories from that era.  But the fact that we never managed to win the Lombardi trophy STILL stings really bad.  It's almost like PTSD.  I still get sick to my stomach when highlights pop-up from any of those four Super Bowl games.  

 

For some fans, it's enough to just know the Bills are no longer an embarrassment to the NFL.  It's enough to enjoy most Sunday afternoons on the winning end, and be proud that we have one of the best QBs in the league.  Sure, those fans want a Super Bowl too.  But they can still appreciate the rest of the season, even if it doesn't happen.

 

I just can't do it.  

I've had too many Wide Rights, Music City Miracles, 13 Seconds to truly appreciate anything short of a championship trophy.  It doesn't matter what happened in the previous 17-18 games.  The only thing that matters from the 2022 season was their awful game against the Bengals.  Same with the two seasons before in Arrowhead.  And it will be the same this season, if we can't finish the job.  Everything else the Bills accomplish to that point will just be hollow, and overshadowed by that season's crushing playoff loss.

 

[Ramza86]

Honestly im not happy with what im seeing....

 

But its nice to be in a position to say regular season really isnt that important for us as this team will be in the playoffs barring catastrophe.