Are people really that unhappy with our 4-2 Bills?

[dayman]

From the moment we opened the 2020 season and destroyed the Jets, I have expected us to air raid everyone all the time and reserve the right to complain in any moment where we didn’t put up a gazillion points in the immediate prior game.

[machine gun kelly]

4 hours ago, Special K said:

 

Yeah, the team has been good for four plus years at this point....as far as I'm concerned, the team has established itself as a perennial playoff participant.

 

We all just want the Bills to take that next step and make it to the Super Bowl and win it.

 

After the Miami game, the Bills looked poised to do just that, but these last couple of weeks, thanks to injuries and inconsistent Offensive play, the team looks less likely to make that step this year, and it can be frustrating.

 

Josh Allen only has so many "Prime seasons" left....the Bills have to take advantage of his talents while they have them, because this team could quickly slide back to "lovable loser" status once he is gone.

 

Go Bills!!

You had me until the Josh only has so many prime seasons left comment.  That’s just not true.  QB’s with the new rules are able to make it much longer than QB’s from even 15 years ago.  Josh will still be our captain at least til he’s 38, and even longer.

[Einstein]

I simply couldn't imagine how boring any forum would be if everyone was positive.

 

Poster A - The Bills are great!
Poster B - They sure are buddy!

Poster C - I concur with your thoughts pals!

Poster A - Isn't Dorsey swell?
Poster C- He sure does seem like a cool guy!
Poster B - I just got a great idea. Let's start a fundraiser to send him some chicken wings for lunch tomorrow!
Poster A - Great idea buddy!

Poster C - Great idea pal!

Woof. 

[EasternOHBillsFan]

HELL NO!!!

 

Our defense is better and our offense is the same... once we punch that playoffs ticket, ANYTHING could happen.

2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

You had me until the Josh only has so many prime seasons left comment.  That’s just not true.  QB’s with the new rules are able to make it much longer than QB’s from even 15 years ago.  Josh will still be our captain at least til he’s 38, and even longer.

 

Not if he keeps putting his body out there to take needless punishment, he'll end up like Cam Newton. I think Josh is starting to realize this and is dialing it back a little bit.

[dayman]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I simply couldn't imagine how boring any forum would be if everyone was positive.

 

Poster A - The Bills are great!
Poster B - They sure are buddy!

Poster C - I concur with your thoughts pals!

Poster A - Isn't Dorsey swell?
Poster C- He sure does seem like a cool guy!
Poster B - I just got a great idea. Let's start a fundraiser to send him some chicken wings for lunch tomorrow!
Poster A - Great idea buddy!

Poster C - Great idea pal!

Woof. 

exactly

 

bitching is half of fandom

[section122]

You know it's funny if Bass who is normally very good, makes both his fg attempts the Bills win 20-9.

 

I wonder how much whining there would be today if that was the case.

 

They were in position to make it so but bass had an off night.  With that context, I don't think the Bills were "lucky" to beat the giants as some have said in this thread. 

 

For some reason we have to pay attention to the giants errors as to why they should have won the game but not the bills errors that had nothing to do with dorsey to make it a more comfortable convincing win.  Even that 3rd down throw to knox, he was open the playcall worked but the pass was a little low and knox didn't make the play.

 

People are forgetting to enjoy the regular season and instead anxiously awaiting the playoffs.

[ngbills]

59 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

 

And the debate about what is wrong with the team NOW as we stand here in the present day I have absolutely no issue with. That is what you do as fans. It is the extrapolating out to doom in 11 or 14 weeks time. That is the big I don't get and honestly, isn't healthy. By all means let's talk about what is wrong with the offense, whether the defense can overcome the injuries, whether the playcalling and coaching decisions against the Giants were good enough. Absolutely let's talk about that. That is there here and now. I am absolutely NOT saying "let's only be positive" I hate that type of approach. It is toxic positivity. But I'm just saying the people whose heads are already in January are going about it the wrong way. 

Isn’t healthy and don’t get? That is what the coaches and players do. You look at what could we be doing better and what is not working. Some fans like to do that as well. But this boards tends to group people together way too much. If I’m critical then I’m in the fire everyone, we are going to lose, blow it up etc. I can’t be I think we are a really good team but want and expect better. I see things we are not doing well and like to discuss it. Isn’t that point of coming on a board like this? If your a just have fun and enjoy the ride fan then why waste the energy and time reading this stuff. 

[frostbitmic]

4 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

You aren't giving the Jets and Jags enough credit. They are both good teams.

The Jets lost their big off season acquisition on the 4th play of the season, enabling the Bills to go to 0-2 vs Zack Wilson... 0-2 vs Zack Wilson

 

The Jaguars are another story that'll remain in my craw all season. How do you give up a home game to another AFC competitor ? ... A home game that the Bills would have won in Buffalo but went to England, played predictably like crap, lost the game and lost Milano and Jones for the season. I hope the check the Bills got was worth it.

[Beast]

I’m a lot less happy than I was on October 1st at 4:00 pm.

[ProcessTruster]

I'm still wallowing in the fact that this team is competitive every week against anyone.   Just a great vibe

[Special K]

29 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

You had me until the Josh only has so many prime seasons left comment.  That’s just not true.  QB’s with the new rules are able to make it much longer than QB’s from even 15 years ago.  Josh will still be our captain at least til he’s 38, and even longer.

 

Even so, that’s still only 8 or 9 years...not long in the grand scheme of things.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Cmon OP

Look beyond the record and give us some grace

 

Our franchise savior shat the bed on national TV and lost to Zach Wilson with a fourth quarter lead. 

The team is decimated with injuries to some of the most important and popular players.

They needed a referre gift and horrific clock management from the Giants to get a win.

 

They have played one game of beautiful football against an elite opponent and it was amazing to watch. 

 

Other than that it has been a grind emotionally. If they can stack together a few more wins here in the coming weeks, Von starts to look better, and the offense finds a rhythm the mood will improve. 

[Thurman#1]

You know what it means if you lost the two games by a total of 11 points? It means you lost two games. Wouldn't have been better or worse if we'd lost by more. That's a pure justification, pure spin.

 

4 - 2 isn't awful. But with the schedule we have played so far, it is not good enough.

 

We have played the Jets (3-3), the Raiders (3-3), the Commanders (3-3), the Dolphins (5-1), the Jaguars(4-2) and the Giants (1-5). This was an easy part of the schedule. We should be 5-1. Possibly even 6-0. 

 

The hard part of the schedule is not here yet. You have to make hay against the schedule we had. 

 

Having said that, the situation isn't that bad. We're a good team, a team that is likely to contend for a Super Bowl.

 

But of course we're disappointed a bit. Well we should be.

[section122]

19 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

The Jets lost their big off season acquisition on the 4th play of the season, enabling the Bills to go to 0-2 vs Zack Wilson... 0-2 vs Zack Wilson

 

The Jaguars are another story that'll remain in my craw all season. How do you give up a home game to another AFC competitor ? ... A home game that the Bills would have won in Buffalo but went to England, played predictably like crap, lost the game and lost Milano and Jones for the season. I hope the check the Bills got was worth it.

 

Wait do you think the Bills had a say in that?

[Thurman#1]

25 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

The Jets lost their big off season acquisition on the 4th play of the season, enabling the Bills to go to 0-2 vs Zack Wilson... 0-2 vs Zack Wilson

 

The Jaguars are another story that'll remain in my craw all season. How do you give up a home game to another AFC competitor ? ... A home game that the Bills would have won in Buffalo but went to England, played predictably like crap, lost the game and lost Milano and Jones for the season. I hope the check the Bills got was worth it.

 

 

They didn't do it because they chose to because they got a check.

 

But yeah, the Bills should have won both of those games. They're a significantly better team than either of those two.

 

If they'd lost to the Fins, that wouldn't have bothered me nearly as much as bowing to those two stiffs.

 

 

1 minute ago, NUT said:

Yes, they are not a championship team due to poor coaching. This will be Josh Allens' legacy.

 

 

Nonsense. Their coaching is good.

 

And thinking that Josh Allen's legacy is already estabilished or known is flat-out nuts. 

 

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Thurman#1

[GunnerBill]

29 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Isn’t healthy and don’t get? That is what the coaches and players do. You look at what could we be doing better and what is not working. Some fans like to do that as well. But this boards tends to group people together way too much. If I’m critical then I’m in the fire everyone, we are going to lose, blow it up etc. I can’t be I think we are a really good team but want and expect better. I see things we are not doing well and like to discuss it. Isn’t that point of coming on a board like this? If your a just have fun and enjoy the ride fan then why waste the energy and time reading this stuff. 

 

You misunderstand me. I am not saying don't discuss stuff we are not doing well. That is the opposite of what I am saying. I want to discuss what we are and are not doing well. What I don't want to discuss is what we are doing in 14 weeks time if we are not doing well. Living in that state will suck the fun out of it. 

[frostbitmic]

1 minute ago, section122 said:

 

Wait do you think the Bills had a say in that?

How could they not have a say especially if they have to give up a home game ?

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Asked and answered 

 

Not my problem that there's some inconsequential median you find significant 

 

 

Performance is inconsequential? 

 

Um, no it isn't.

 

Those are performance indicators.

 

4 - 2 is a better one. But that's not great either against the schedule we've played.

 

We had no control over the record of the Chiefs or Bengals. Just over our own. Which is not good, because of some performances well below our capabilities.

[machine gun kelly]

17 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Cmon OP

Look beyond the record and give us some grace

 

Our franchise savior shat the bed on national TV and lost to Zach Wilson with a fourth quarter lead. 

The team is decimated with injuries to some of the most important and popular players.

They needed a referre gift and horrific clock management from the Giants to get a win.

 

They have played one game of beautiful football against an elite opponent and it was amazing to watch. 

 

Other than that it has been a grind emotionally. If they can stack together a few more wins here in the coming weeks, Von starts to look better, and the offense finds a rhythm the mood will improve. 

A number of these injuries are little nagging ones, and should subside we hope with winnable games against NE, and TB.  The Bucs are doing it with smilie and mirrors.  They have a decent defense, but the offense when faced with a real opponent like Philly and Detroit.  We should beat them and it’s the only time I don’t root for the Bucs as I’ve lived here since moving for grad school.  My sons and friends are Bucs fans, but my boys are loyal to my Bills (given my constant brainwashing since birth)

 

We have the Bengals, but they don’t look nearly as strong as last year, and then the hapless Broncos.

 

Well be fin as long as we don’t lose any more Tre’s, Jones, and my favorite in Milano.

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Performance is inconsequential? 

 

Um, no it isn't.

 

Those are performance indicators.

 

4 - 2 is a better one. But that's not great either against the schedule we've played.

 

We had no control over the record of the Chiefs or Bengals. Just over our own. Which is not good, because of some performances well below our capabilities.

Please go back and read the conversation you just inserted yourself into

 

If you're still confused afterwards I'll be glad to answer any further questions👍