After nine games, where do you think the Bills end up this season?

[Rc2catch]

I feel the same. Super Bowl or bust. 
I think they are still capable of beating any team in the league. 
Im a fan of the high powered pass offense but it’s too much finesse and in the big games we constantly see defenses play more physical and ruin Buffalos whole offense. 
I am very encouraged by the run game, you see the life in the O line as they are winning matchups and getting fired up. Big difference from getting beat in pass pro repeatedly and everyone looking mopey and out of it. Now that they are trying to find a balance of high powered passing along with getting nasty and ugly in the run game. They can win in ways they could not in previous years. 
My only concern is Dorsey and injuries

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Always hoping for the best - winning a super bowl.

 

But this year will be tough. For seeding or even making the playoffs we have road games @ CIN, PHI, KC, LAC, MIA and home games vs DAL, NYJ (yes, jets will be another tough game). That is 7 games that are no walk in the park. So getting to 12-5 is not a guarantee meaning we may be fighting for a wild card if MIA does not stumble. Their path is a bit easier with road games only at PHI and BAL. They get KC, BUF and DAL at home. They dont choke games Pats, LVR, WAS, NYJx2, and TEN they are at 11 wins right there. They only need to squeak out 1-2 of the tough ones to get to 12 wins. Feels like they have a much easier path to 12 than we do. But anything can happen and that is why we play the games. Week 17 is looking like to will be huge. Would not be surprised if its a pre-cursor to the wild card game the next week. 

 

I think our best bet would be for a team like Miami to take out either KC or Cincy and then we end up playing them.

[ngbills]

23 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Oline is better than last year

Pass rush is better

We still have Allen

 

SuperBowl

OL is better: Maybe, maybe not

Allen sacked 9 times this year vs 9 times last year

Bills have 709 rushing yards on 162 attempts or 4.4 per vs 707 last year on 146 attempts or 4.8 per

 

Pass rush is better: Yes

23 sacks this year vs 19 last year

70 pressures this year vs 58 last year

21 hurries this year vs 15 last year

 

We still have Josh Allen: Allen last year better. I dont care if he is better at throwing the ball for a 1 yard gain. He is not throwing downfield yet still has more int's, less yards passing and rushing, less td's and is still getting hit a lot. 

Yards this year 1576 vs 1980 last year

TD's this year 13 vs 17 last year

Int's this year 6 vs 4 last year

Rushing yards this year 131 vs 257 last year

[Boatdrinks]

19 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I think our best bet would be for a team like Miami to take out either KC or Cincy and then we end up playing them.

Exactly as it has been the last couple years. Just hasn’t played out that way. 

Edited October 17, 2023 by Boatdrinks

[Ethan in Cleveland]

8 minutes ago, ngbills said:

OL is better: Maybe, maybe not

Allen sacked 9 times this year vs 9 times last year

Bills have 709 rushing yards on 162 attempts or 4.4 per vs 707 last year on 146 attempts or 4.8 per

 

Pass rush is better: Yes

23 sacks this year vs 19 last year

70 pressures this year vs 58 last year

21 hurries this year vs 15 last year

 

We still have Josh Allen: Allen last year better. I dont care if he is better at throwing the ball for a 1 yard gain. He is not throwing downfield yet still has more int's, less yards passing and rushing, less td's and is still getting hit a lot. 

Yards this year 1576 vs 1980 last year

TD's this year 13 vs 17 last year

Int's this year 6 vs 4 last year

Rushing yards this year 131 vs 257 last year

Excellent post.

The eyeball test says the OL is better to me and I suspect to you as well. 

We know the offense started hot last year and slowed. It's been up and down all year so far. Jets, Jags, and Giants was bad. Versus Dolphins was unstoppable.  I still have faith in Allen. Dorsey and Knox are dead to me until they prove me wrong.

[ngbills]

2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Excellent post.

The eyeball test says the OL is better to me and I suspect to you as well. 

We know the offense started hot last year and slowed. It's been up and down all year so far. Jets, Jags, and Giants was bad. Versus Dolphins was unstoppable.  I still have faith in Allen. Dorsey and Knox are dead to me until they prove me wrong.

Lets do an experiment - Dorsey stay home. Lets play a game with zero shotgun draws. Mix in shotgun with under center and playaction. Lets try Kincaid down the seam. More slants to Diggs with Harty running a deep post. Roll Josh out with guys running crossing routes. Let Josh take off if its open o run. Cook running upfield routes not just dump offs behind the line. Maybe try it and see how it goes. At least just ditch the shotgun draw for one game please. 

[Chaos]

Huge consensus the Bills will make the playoffs. In all sincerty, if the Bills are this confident, we may see the same vanilla offense for the entire regular season. 

[QCity]

10 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Huge consensus the Bills will make the playoffs. 

 

I mean, 9-8 is going to get you in the playoffs. The AFC is the tougher conference but there's still a lot of bottom feeders. What happens in January has been the real question this entire offseason.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

Lets do an experiment - Dorsey stay home. Lets play a game with zero shotgun draws. Mix in shotgun with under center and playaction. Lets try Kincaid down the seam. More slants to Diggs with Harty running a deep post. Roll Josh out with guys running crossing routes. Let Josh take off if its open o run. Cook running upfield routes not just dump offs behind the line. Maybe try it and see how it goes. At least just ditch the shotgun draw for one game please. 

Love it!

[Unforgiven]

8-9, this group as it's built is done. Besides i'd rather see Dolphins - 49ers in the SB, Bills would just lay an

egg if they got there.

[msw2112]

Last year, the injuries on defense really hurt the team - Miller, Poyer, Hyde, and Tre not being 100%.  I thought that if they remained healthy, given the improvements at guard and the addition of Leonard Floyd, the Bills could do it this year.  They still can, but I am more pessimistic with the losses of Milano, Jones, and White.  Plus, age and injury recovery may be catching up to Miller, Poyer, and Hyde.  They all look a bit slow out there.  Let's hope Miller can regain some form as the season goes on.  Poyer and Hyde are probably as good as we're going to get.  I love of all of those guys, but am trying to be objective based on what I've seen.

 

The offense has been up and down, but I think that if they stay healthy (which they have so far), that they'll get it together and be fine.

Edited October 17, 2023 by msw2112

[RyanC883]

5 hours ago, dpberr said:

Outlook is the same - this is the all-in year for this iteration of the team.  There is no tomorrow.

 

Next year is the remodel to take another shot at the Super Bowl in the first season in the new stadium with a different cast.

 

However, after six games here in 2023, while the defense is vastly improved, the offense remains the same we saw last year into the divisional game and this team still has a sleepwalking problem.  Offense needs to get its act together and evolve from where it was last year for the Bills to get over the hump.  

 

I feel like the offense has regressed without a reason other than Dorsey.  If Dorsey can get the offense in a rhythm (a big if), this should be the best team of the last couple years talent and performance wise.  

[Success]

Super Bowl - which is what I've thought all year.

 

But I feel better about it looking around the league.  No one is that good.

 

[Goin Breakdown]

9 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

SB Winners 

 

Outlook has improved…..

 

 

3 years in a row

[JohnNord]

Last season kind of changed my outlook overall.  I remember a Patriots fan saying “the season doesn’t start until December” and when you look at 2022 he was right.  It doesn’t matter if your record is 13-3 as the #2 seed in the playoffs.  The home field is nice but winning a road playoff game is far from impossible.

 

I just want to see this team firing on all cylinders and going into the postseason strong.  If they aren’t the #1 seed, I could really care less whether they are #2 or #7

[Ga boy]

The division comes down to last game in Miami.  That’s 2 months away and Fish will not be playing as well as they are in Oct.  We’ll win, then beat Ravens and KC and Philly.  Lombardi comes to Niagara Square!  

[Bills!Win!]

My guess is that this “Josh Allen is playing it safe, isn’t taking risks and isn’t running” is a season long strategy. Once they get to the playoffs they’re going to unleash him and we won’t be seeing very many punts. That being said, with the Bills injuries, they’ll make it to the Super Bowl and lose. Afc is weak this year 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Bills!Win!

[VW82]

We might win the division or we might be the 5th seed. Either way, I still like us to probably get to round 2 before bowing out to a bigger team, probably Chiefs. 

 

Losing Milano and Daquon is going to be very difficult to come back from. Our cap situation just makes it so difficult to fix our problems via trade.  

[Billl]

7 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

I think our best bet would be for a team like Miami to take out either KC or Cincy and then we end up playing them.

That’s why the 1 seed is so important.

[buffblue]

6 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

8-9, this group as it's built is done. Besides i'd rather see Dolphins - 49ers in the SB, Bills would just lay an

egg if they got there.

What an absolutely ridiculous post