IF Allen Tried to Force His Way Out of Buffalo...

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Josh will be 33 when his contract is up...

Ummm this thread isn't about when Allens contract is up

 

It's literally about if Allen will force his way out of Buffalo..  which would mean before the contract is up

5 minutes ago, mrags said:

You are batchit crazy if you think any player in this league is getting 10x 1st rounders. Nor is anyone worth that much 

Peyton Manning, Pat mahomes, Josh Allen, and Dan Marino weren't traded in their prime...

 

No team is giving them up for three first round picks..  nobody is giving up prime Dan Marino for three first round picks

 

It's literally taking something batshit crazy... Minimum 7 to 10..  because you're not getting a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback

 

It's taking a bat ***** crazy deal to get it done

 

And it doesn't happen because the price would be so high

Edited October 17, 2023 by Buffalo716

[K D]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Ummm this thread isn't about when Allens contract is up

 

It's literally about if Allen will force his way out of Buffalo..  which would mean before the contract is up

This thread is also about firing everyone and giving Daboll a blank check to hire whoever he wants but not all of us do crack cocaine

[ALLinALLEN]

You wokeup and seriously had this thought? 

[Buffalo716]

Just now, KDIGGZ said:

This thread is also about firing everyone and giving Daboll a blank check to hire whoever he wants but not all of us do crack cocaine

Bills fans forgot what 17 years of no playoffs was like

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

This thread is also about firing everyone and giving Daboll a blank check to hire whoever he wants but not all of us do crack cocaine

If Dorsey is bad Daboll is just as bad or worse lol pretty sure the rift between Daboll and McDermott started over Daboll not being able to run a successful running play in the first place.  At the very least and the maximum good things you can say about Dorsey is at least we can run the football on a light box finally 
 

 

[mrags]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Ummm this thread isn't about when Allens contract is up

 

It's literally about if Allen will force his way out of Buffalo..  which would mean before the contract is up

Peyton Manning, Pat mahomes, Josh Allen, and Dan Marino weren't traded in their prime...

 

No team is giving them up for three first round picks..  nobody is giving up prime Dan Marino for three first round picks

 

It's literally taking something batshit crazy... Minimum 7 to 10

And none of them have ever been upset with the direction of their franchises at their points in their careers either. So we literally have zero evidence to suggest either argument. The evidence that we do have is Stafford who was the fastest players to 40,000 yards in NFL history  got 2x1st rounders and a 3rd rounder and a pretty average QB. Or more recently a sure first ballot HOF QB in Aaron Rodgers, just 2 years off multiple straight mvp seasons for significantly less. 
 

you will not find top QBs being traded for the most part. Especially in their prime. But that doesn’t mean Allen would ever feel the desire or need to re-sign either. Knowing that he’s in his prime at 29ish years old. Why would he not test the market on his most likely last HUGE contract. Especially if the organization he plays for continues to not provide him with an adequate offensive line to protect him, or give him weapons to succeed. And if you can get to that idea at some point, so can the Bills brass and the consideration for reading him for something or losing him for nothing comes into play.  

[Rigotz]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

There seems to be 1

 

Congrats!

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, mrags said:

And none of them have ever been upset with the direction of their franchises at their points in their careers either. So we literally have zero evidence to suggest either argument. The evidence that we do have is Stafford who was the fastest players to 40,000 yards in NFL history  got 2x1st rounders and a 3rd rounder and a pretty average QB. Or more recently a sure first ballot HOF QB in Aaron Rodgers, just 2 years off multiple straight mvp seasons for significantly less. 
 

you will not find top QBs being traded for the most part. Especially in their prime. But that doesn’t mean Allen would ever feel the desire or need to re-sign either. Knowing that he’s in his prime at 29ish years old. Why would he not test the market on his most likely last HUGE contract. Especially if the organization he plays for continues to not provide him with an adequate offensive line to protect him, or give him weapons to succeed. And if you can get to that idea at some point, so can the Bills brass and the consideration for reading him for something or losing him for nothing comes into play.  

I get what you're saying... But Rodgers was 40 also

 

If he got traded at 28... It would be a massive massive boatload haul

 

And Josh Allen could do whatever he wants at the end of the day... But he always said he wanted to finish his career in Buffalo, and I would like to believe him

[mrags]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

I get what you're saying... But Rodgers was 40 also

 

If he got traded at 28... It would be a massive massive boatload haul

 

And Josh Allen could do whatever he wants at the end of the day... But he always said he wanted to finish his career in Buffalo, and I would like to believe him

I want to believe him too. Literally my favorite player to ever play the game. I believe will go down as possibly the best football player ever when all is said and done (minus a Tom Brady like ring collection). But my argument is with this staff and organization. If they continue to handcuff him. Leave him with no help on the line or weapons, he could change his mind. He wasn’t a superstar when he said that before. Just a kid from Firbaugh, Ca. 

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, mrags said:

I want to believe him too. Literally my favorite player to ever play the game. I believe will go down as possibly the best football player ever when all is said and done (minus a Tom Brady like ring collection). But my argument is with this staff and organization. If they continue to handcuff him. Leave him with no help on the line or weapons, he could change his mind. He wasn’t a superstar when he said that before. Just a kid from Firbaugh, Ca. 

Listen, if it came down to an ultimatum between Josh Allen.. or the coaching staff

 

I'm taking Josh everyday and twice on Sundays

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, mrags said:

I want to believe him too. Literally my favorite player to ever play the game. I believe will go down as possibly the best football player ever when all is said and done (minus a Tom Brady like ring collection). But my argument is with this staff and organization. If they continue to handcuff him. Leave him with no help on the line or weapons, he could change his mind. He wasn’t a superstar when he said that before. Just a kid from Firbaugh, Ca. 

No help on the line.  No help on the line. Dawkins is good, brought Morse in and he’s good.  Drafted Torrence this year.  Brought McGovern in-so far so good.  Brown is a weak spot.

 

I am a believer in building from the lines out, but to say Beane has done nothing is absurd.  Too many folks in the Mafia think you can have All-Pro caliber guys at every position on the team despite a salary cap.

And Allen won’t go anywhere anytime soon.  He has at least 10 more good years in front of him.

 

 

[BullBuchanan]

5 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

I honestly don't think this would happen, but if Allen feels as though his game has been neutered and thinks there is no way to win the big one with this coaching staff, would he ever try and reunite with Dabol? If that were to happen, I would hope Terry would clean house and write a blank check to Dabol to bring his own staff in here. This coaching staff is severely flawed but if I recall correctly, wasn't it Allen who wanted Dorsey promoted to OC? Let's see how long the tension continues to build with this offense as something needs to be altered one way or another.

Allen is having th best season of his career while being "neutered". Hollywood Allen was killing us, and this is the only way he has a chance to win a thing. As I mentioned elsewhere, they've swung too far the other way, but if they eventually get the balance right, that's josh's best hope for an MVP or SB win.

[Augie]

4 hours ago, Heitz said:

Holy sh*t, talk about a Jump to Conclusions mat... 🤔

 

You are playing checkers at a gun fight….or something like that. 

 

Let me explain. The NFL is doing every single thing in their power to make the league a year round entertainment machine. It is an endless cycle of training camp, preseason, regular season, playoffs, Super Bowl, Combine, Draft, rookie mini-camps, and around we go.

 

The universe is a force of its own, almost as powerful as the NFL thinks it is. The universe fights back by trying to provide us with “offseason content”  year round, because the NFL has messed up the calendar for everybody. Off season content has been made virtually homeless. You see, it’s really quite simple, in a Karmic kind of way, that we get some of these threads now. 

[pennstate10]

5 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

I honestly don't think this would happen, but if Allen feels as though his game has been neutered and thinks there is no way to win the big one with this coaching staff, would he ever try and reunite with Dabol? If that were to happen, I would hope Terry would clean house and write a blank check to Dabol to bring his own staff in here. This coaching staff is severely flawed but if I recall correctly, wasn't it Allen who wanted Dorsey promoted to OC? Let's see how long the tension continues to build with this offense as something needs to be altered one way or another.

[mrags]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

No help on the line.  No help on the line. Dawkins is good, brought Morse in and he’s good.  Drafted Torrence this year.  Brought McGovern in-so far so good.  Brown is a weak spot.

 

I am a believer in building from the lines out, but to say Beane has done nothing is absurd.  Too many folks in the Mafia think you can have All-Pro caliber guys at every position on the team despite a salary cap.

And Allen won’t go anywhere anytime soon.  He has at least 10 more good years in front of him.

 

 

Yeah thanks for the argument. 
 

dawkins almost got Allen killed a couple times last week. He’s not good. Maybe a little above avg at best. 
yes, they have made many moves to try and fix the OL but that doesn’t mean they are the right moves yet. Time will tell. And for the record I agree with you on Torrence and McGovern. Brown is a question mark. Dawkins is a weak spot imo. Morse is a bad hit away from ending his career. Imo they have a need for both tackle spots at this point. And honestly, with how much the TEs and RBs stay in to help block, they agree. 
 

now name how many weapons we’ve give Allen besides Diggs.