McD and Daboll hate each other probably 🤣

[McBean]

12 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Maybe McD pissed at the cheap shots? Daboll holding a grudge for 13 seconds? 

I’ll forever hold the grudge until McClap delivers us a Lombardi which btw, he never will.

 

Daboll should be our HC. Should’ve been hired on the tarmac in KC after 13 seconds.The offense wouldn’t be in the mess it’s in right now I can tell you that. 

[muppy]

I think that was about as curt a greeting and acknowledgment of another person there could possibly be. Mere formality , No Love Lost at all whatsoever

 

 

 

 

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

I wonder of McD will lighten up a bit if he wins the superbowl. It's difficult to put this into context because we don't know why they are so cold to one another, but McD comes off as a bit rigid just in general.

[Big Turk]

32 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Sorry but this is ridiculous. There is more than enough circumstantial evidence, including information contained in a lawsuit, to show that Daboll and McD are not friendly.

 

Yes, that is called "Hearsay" in a court of law and is not admissible, FYI.

Edited October 17, 2023 by Big Turk

[Cheektowaga Chad]

28 minutes ago, McBean said:

I’ll forever hold the grudge until McClap delivers us a Lombardi which btw, he never will.

 

Daboll should be our HC. Should’ve been hired on the tarmac in KC after 13 seconds.The offense wouldn’t be in the mess it’s in right now I can tell you that. 

I'm glad daboll isn't the bills head coach because I don't think he is a very good one judging by the way he coached Sunday night

 

In game coaching cost the giants a win Sunday 

[Low Positive]

42 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Maybe because he is in shape and has testosterone flowing thru his body unlike most of the coaches who are fat butterballs that have more estrogen in their bodies from fat cell production than their wives do?  Mike Tomlin seems the same way.

 I think Mike McDaniel takes estrogen supplements.

[Einstein]

12 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Yes, that is called "Hearsay" in a court of law and is not admissible, FYI.

 

I know I had a bit too much to drink last night, but did I stumble into a courtroom accidentally?

Where am I?

 

PS, there are exceptions to hearsay which do allow it in court. One example is a recorded recollection that accurately reflects the witness’s knowledge.

[Fleezoid]

Daboll left the family. McDermott should have spit on the ground and said, "You are dead to me!"

[Mango]

1 hour ago, boater said:

I am predisposed to not liking Daboll. He's a raging hothead. I remember him on the sidelines (before he went upstairs) raging at rookie Allen for his mistakes. That Allen's play improved when Daboll went to the booth is no coincidence.

 

I've worked for hotheads before. It's miserable.

 

McD is the opposite of hothead and maybe he doesn't like Daboll for his.

 

I agree with this.

Don't get me wrong, coaches can scream, swear, and have their moments. But those have to only be moments or blips in maybe very extreme circumstances. A once in a blue moon occurrence. It cannot be your personality in 2023. That isn't how teams or professionals work anymore.

 

I know there is a whole faction who think "people are getting soft". But honestly coaches who act like this across the world are getting canned in all sorts of professional/Olympic sports, and every year/quadrennial world records keep getting broken. Athletes are getting better, faster, stronger. Working harder. Participation is increasing. The level it takes to win from HS onwards in just about every sport has never been higher. 

 

Professional sports is a high stakes pressure cooker. It should be. But there are coaches out there in 2023 who are getting more out of there athletes without being a total blowhard.  It is sort of like Michael Jordan, the better you are the more people are willing to put up with. Jordan is a notorious Richard Noggin. But people put up with it because he is/was the absolute greatest to ever do it. He transcended the league. If you belong in the Hall of Pretty Good you can't act like Jordan. 

[Marcus Aurelius]

[Heitz]

1 hour ago, Just in Atlanta said:

Having said that, it looks evident there is static between these two, at least based on the three seconds of video of the exchange. 

 

Which is how all things are judged in today's society - the three second eye test. 🤣 🤷‍♂️  

[Einstein]

46 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

If someone said it in a lawsuit it must be true.

 

If it was just the notes in the lawsuit, I’d likely agree with you. 

 

However, it’s the lawsuit, plus several reports of McD and Daboll not seeing eye to eye, plus McD’s comments in the past, and now this video where they seem reticent to shake hands.

 

Fans can shove their head into the sand if they desire, but I don’t see what good it does.

 

This whole thing reminds me of something McD said about a month before Daboll left for the Giants: 

 

"Well I didn't think, honestly, we took advantage of opportunities tonight. I really didn't. The ball is at the 40-yard line. We're 1-for-4 in the red zone… If you were in the team meetings in training camp, you would know what style of offense I want"

 

For a coach that is notorious for not calling our players, that statement was pretty alarming at the time.

[Beck Water]

12 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

I doubt McD is a likable guy, he always seems like he’s barely controlling seething rage.

 

The Daboll/Allen relationship is cool though. He did a lot for Allen and Allen did a lot for him. 
 

Edit: I’m not saying McD is a bad coach at all. But come on, even the clapping is aggressive. 

 

If we're counting, I'm pretty sure McDermott did a lot for Daboll (and, Daboll did a lot for him) - starting with McDermott hired him to coach a talented rookie QB.  Daboll's record as an OC prior to Buffalo was so poor many questioned that decision, and indeed, he did appear to learn on the job as we went.

 

I also don't know how you get the "not a likeable guy".  He's intense, but he does come across as caring about people.  My guess would be he compartmentalizes pretty fiercely.

[BillsFan2313]

12 hours ago, Araiza Curse said:

Probably because Daboll feels like he should be the one still in Buffalo rather than McD. After all Daboll is basically Buffalo’s son, along with the likes of Gronk and UB players that are actually good and want to be here ( Khalil Mack). Imagine if we actually kept our own. 

 

They have a total of 4 wins since their 7-2 start last year. Yeah, imagine. 

[Your Brown Eye]

59 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Maybe because he is in shape and has testosterone flowing thru his body unlike most of the coaches who are fat butterballs that have more estrogen in their bodies from fat cell production than their wives do?  Mike Tomlin seems the same way.

 

Why is it I read this post in an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice?

[Beck Water]

58 minutes ago, McBean said:

I’ll forever hold the grudge until McClap delivers us a Lombardi which btw, he never will.

 

Daboll should be our HC. Should’ve been hired on the tarmac in KC after 13 seconds.The offense wouldn’t be in the mess it’s in right now I can tell you that. 

 

Hmmmmmm. 

We do remember that in 2021 under Daboll, the Bills lost to the Jags 6-9 and got blown out by the Colts 15-41, and there were "fire Daboll" threads on this board on a regular basis after games where the offense "laid an egg"?  We had no run game....

 

We do know that the Giants are 1-5 right?

Edited October 17, 2023 by Beck Water

[RunTheBall]

Ha!

 

Love McD. Isn't going to pretend he likes a guy if he doesn't. 

 

There were more fire Daboll threads than there are fire Dorsey threads at this time and some are acting like we lost Vince Lombardi to the G-men. Let's see how his team responds to being a doormat before we lament the fact that we kept the winningest coach in franchise history over the angry fat guy. And I liked Daboll glad he landed a HC gig. 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, jlgarsh said:

That's great to learn about Dick Vermiel. Dale Carnegie works. I was skeptical when my work signed me up years ago. But it helps you communicate with your staff more effectively and hash things out in a productive manner.

 

Agree on the skepticism and the usefulness

 

Didn't work with 'Mad Mike' Martz LOL

[RyanC883]

13 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

I doubt McD is a likable guy, he always seems like he’s barely controlling seething rage.

 

The Daboll/Allen relationship is cool though. He did a lot for Allen and Allen did a lot for him. 
 

Edit: I’m not saying McD is a bad coach at all. But come on, even the clapping is aggressive. 

 

Well, Daboll had plenty of seething rage at Taylor after Taylor checked into a run.  Hey coach, you don't want a player to check to a run, don't let it be an option.  Was totally unprofessional how Daboll handled that.  

 

I think they are both in over their heads as HCs.  

1 hour ago, McBean said:

I’ll forever hold the grudge until McClap delivers us a Lombardi which btw, he never will.

 

Daboll should be our HC. Should’ve been hired on the tarmac in KC after 13 seconds.The offense wouldn’t be in the mess it’s in right now I can tell you that. 

 

I'd take neither as HC. 

[Dr.Sack]

McD has a way better career winning % than Daboll, outside of playoff winning %.

 

Daboll .457

McD .641