Williams and Bernard

[Success]

I thought one of the biggest positives from that ugly game was the LB play.

 

Both of these guys seemed like they were all over the field, all night.  Just flying to where the ball was and making plays.  It seems like what we lack in size in the LB unit, we make up for in speed. 

 

I didn't really notice Milano's absence. Williams seemed like a vet out there.

 

Curious if anyone/everyone saw it the same way I did. There were mistakes, like Bernard's PI in the endzone that almost really cost the team, but overall I thought both guys were excellent.

 

[Warriorspikes51]

Bernard was good.  Maybe I'm ignorant but I didn't notice Williams much other than a bonus sack for him when Tyrod dropped the ball 

[Big Turk]

Bernard stuffed Barkley on the goalline rush attempt to end the first half...he is Milano "lite".  Williams is another clone just a little more raw and out of control which leads to him over-pursuing plays and being out of position too much on runs...should get better and better as he gets more reps. His pass coverage skills are really good tho...even in the Jags game he made some really nice pass breakups.

Edited October 16, 2023 by Big Turk

[Ramza86]

I want to say I noticed anything...but for the most part the Giants really did nothing all game.

[kota]

Dorian Williams seems to be around the ball alot which is good.  

[Rc2catch]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

Williams is another clone just a little more raw and out of control

That’s kinda how I viewed him. He’s fast, but almost playing too fast. Lot of positives in his game so far 

[26TrapDraw]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

Bernard stuffed Barkley on the goalline rush attempt to end the first half...he is Milano "lite".  Williams is another clone just a little more raw and out of control which leads to him over-pursuing plays and being out of position too much on runs...should get better and better as he gets more reps. His pass coverage skills are really good tho...even in the Jags game he made some really nice pass breakups.

yeah i was excited about seeing these two flying around. They played pretty well. Once Williams is a savvy vet like Milano he will be insane because he knows nothing but flying around like a maniac.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I thought both were great. Williams can fly and really got his nose in there on run stops. 
 

My only complaint is that I am pretty sure Williams got washed out on those two long Barkley runs. Not sure it was his fault or not, but seemed like it when I saw it during the game.

[SCBills]

Milano is an elite playmaker, but the silver lining in losing him is that he plays the most easily replaceable position on a defense. 

 

I'm gladly eating crow on the back to back RD3 LB picks, because Bernard looks very good and early returns on Dorian Williams are that he could follow a sped up trajectory as a read/react linebacker without the MLB responsibilities. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I thought both were great. Williams can fly and really got his nose in there on run stops. 
 

My only complaint is that I am pretty sure Williams got washed out on those two long Barkley runs. Not sure it was his fault or not, but seemed like it when I saw it during the game.

 

They doubled ford and moved him, then the guard got to 2nd level.  When ford came out and they tried it again phillips split the double team and was in the backfield. 

[MJS]

Williams was good. I think he wss better than the previous week. Keep getting him game reps and experience. I noticed him a lot.

[BaaadThingsMan]

Thought the defense played well for missing three all pro level starters. Well, pro bowl level at the least. 

 

Going in they talked about the Giants injuries, and they were significant as well, but the quality of players the Bills are without is too much for most teams to overcome.

 

Having Williams may prove to be a very significant thing this season.

 

Bernard is on my fantasy football team and is a tackling machine averaging 10 points a game right now. 

 

[strive_for_five_guy]

Good start.  Want to see this sustained against tougher competition before being too pleased.

[Wraith]

According to the analysts at Cover1, the Giants really picked on Williams in pass coverage.

 

https://www.cover1.net/buffalo-bills-new-york-giants-recap/

[boyst]

Williams made a few mistakes I noticed early on. He didn't make fatal mistakes, didn't whiff on tackles like last weeks. Was pleasantly surprised he built on last week.

 

One big glaring play was he missed the motion of the RB out to the wide out position which left him uncovered. Someone pointed it out and Williams sprinted out to cover. 

[TheFunPolice]

I remember when we realized that this guy Milano was a great player a few years ago. 

 

Hopefully history repeats itself there and when Milano gets back we're suddenly loaded at LB!

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

18 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Bernard was good.  Maybe I'm ignorant but I didn't notice Williams much other than a bonus sack for him when Tyrod dropped the ball 

He smacked Barkley on one play. He was bringing it when tackling. Major collisions when he hits.

Edited October 16, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Alphadawg7]

Bernard is showing he is a player.  Milano lite is a good description of him.  

 

Williams has done well so far considering, and I really am starting to get excited about his future.  He obviously isn't there yet, but for a rookie thrown in like this, in this small window he has impressed me enough to be optimistic about his development.

 

All that being said...it was still just the Giants who haven't scored an offensive TD in many moons lol

[SCBills]

7 minutes ago, Wraith said:

According to the analysts at Cover1, the Giants really picked on Williams in pass coverage.

 

https://www.cover1.net/buffalo-bills-new-york-giants-recap/

 

Certainly wouldn't surprise me.. he's a rookie linebacker in his first start.  

 

However the talent is there.  He has every raw skill you could want in an off ball linebacker.  The fact he was able to be solid in his first start bodes well for him as it starts to slow down mentally as the season progresses.  

[DCofNC]

From the broadcast view, Williams looked a little raw, but overall he played very well.  He may be a real steal, reminds me of rookie Milano.  Have to remember this is his first start, first time getting the starter reps in practice etc.   He has the tools to be something, just have to see if he can handle the mental aspect of it all.  The good part is he is coming in against lesser teams so he gets a little ramp up time.

 

To sit here and be able to say the Bills lost both Milano and Edmunds, didn’t spend any money and plugged the holes w 3rd rd picks with minimal drop off..  THAT is how you build teams to contend long term.   Of course it’s one game against Tyrod, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves, but if holds up, I have to get the crock pot out and get that crow braising for dinner.