loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 I think many here have the view that Harty Sherfield and Shakir are not being properly used by Dorsey.. or maybe it's Josh not giving them an opportunity. I am beginning to buy in to that maybe they are just not any good. Right now I’ve seen nothing dynamic from any of them. I thought we would find ways to utilize Harty’s Speed. He was going to be a much needed deep threat that we seem to lack. Do any of these guys keep opposing coaches up at night? I think Beane was hoping these signings would be sneaky good signings..but I don’t know. I was at the Vikings game last season and watched over and over Cousins continuoisly target Jefferson. Everyone knew it was coming yet we couldn’t stop him. Quote
zow2 Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 The Gabe fumble destroyed the entire first half. It gave NY the life they needed and the Bills chased the game from then on and didn't stick with the run until late 3rd Qtr. So to that end, I can see why he trusted Diggs and targeted him so much. Knox wasn't getting open, I have no idea what Shakir and Sherfield were doing but Josh didn't look their way. Cook seemed open on a few dumpoff screens but Allen wanted to go downfield instead. Weird game. 1 Quote
oldmanfan Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 Watch this coming Sunday. Belicheat is going to take Diggs away; he does this every game, takes away the opponent's strength. will Dorsey adjust? Will Josh? I hope so but I have my doubts. 1 Quote
K D Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 This offense is a joke. It relies on Josh and Diggs to play out of their mind every single game for it to be successful. It's Josh and Diggs and then a bunch of jags 2 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 He's a top 4 WR in the league. The rest of the WR group is average or worse. Forcing the ball to Diggs is what allowed them to use him as a decoy on the go ahead TD. He's a beast and you should keep feeding him the ball. Quote
peterpan Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 Diggs is the only legit pass catcher we have on the team. You gotta let the big dogs eat. we should have gone after Hopkins where we had the chance. Instead we needed 2-3 more D Lineman. 1 Quote
gtw3 Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 There have been games where it seems he was forcing it to Diggs, last night didn't seem to be one of those games. Diggs was open. If he is open then I would expect Josh to throw it to him. Also, despite the idea that he only throws to Diggs, Diggs didn't have either of the TDs. Perhaps he had 16 targets because he was cooking whoever was covering him? Like Kohou's little brother or something. The all-22 will tell the tale. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: Anybody have an issue with the amount of targets Diggs gets? I love Diggs. I love his passion. Dude is straight up baller but sometimes I feel Josh goes too him way to much that it compromises the offense and limits what other guys can bring to the table. We signed Sherfield, Harty and drafted guys like Shakir and Kincaid. And i don’t think those guys have been given many opportunities to make plays. Could it be a scheme issue? Possibly. but i really would like to see Josh spread the ball around and see what these others guys can bring to the table. Because right now…Diggs is only guy Josh has any confidence in. The only way this offense is going to function is with spreading the wealth. I don't care how it effects Stef's ego. Right now I'm just as terrified with Dorsey's playcalling. Why were we forcing throws over the middle when you could clearly see NYG dropping their LB's. This caused the INT. KD just isn't identifying this fast enough. Quote
Don Otreply Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 Josh is his own worst enemy, he just can’t wrap his mind around spreading the ball around, moving the chains, to keep the opposing offense off the field, wearing down the opposing defense, etc etc etc, and Dorsey’s situational play calling leaves a lot to be desired as well. GO BILLS!!! 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 Way too many for a WR!!!! If the Bills were the sweathogs... Diggs: 1 Quote
mrags Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 34 minutes ago, FireChans said: We replaced McKenzie as our gadget guy with Harty, a guy who had proven less at the NFL level, and paid him more. Yup. Something I’ve been saying since we made the move and people called me crazy and thought Harty would somehow turn into something he’s never been. Better Quote
MAJBobby Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 So I want my offense going through my Alpha WR. That’s what they are doing. others want more targets GET THE ***** OPEN, HOLD ONTO THE BALL when your number is called. I wonder at the end of the day how many times others are the Primary Read and it still goes to Diggs. (Will never know that without being in the design meetings week to week). Quote
mrags Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Not true. He had a first down along the sidelines on 3rd down against Miami that was a massive play at the time. A great move in tight space. He's also had a few quality receptions here and there. He isn't given many opportunities. I will say I expected him to look faster. But, he is quick in tight areas He’s terrible. He is what he is. A 40 catch got at best for 400 yards at best. At more than double what we were paying McKenzie for less 1 Quote
bmur66 Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 Knox and Davis both dropped their opportunity to establish any confidence with their qb. Quote
JGMcD2 Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Watch this coming Sunday. Belicheat is going to take Diggs away; he does this every game, takes away the opponent's strength. will Dorsey adjust? Will Josh? I hope so but I have my doubts. I mean, yes, but since Diggs got to Buffalo the Bills are 6-1 against New England (including the playoffs). He’s caught 43 of 63 targets for 629 yards and 6 TDs. Roughly 6 catches for 90 yards and a TD per game? Quote
DapperCam Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 Kincaid didn’t play and has been getting 4-5 targets per game. Diggs basically just took those. Not sure why Knox couldn’t take those though… Quote
Saxum Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 55 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: Maybe it’s Josh’s way to keep Diggs ego in check and that’s what I’m afraid of. If Diggs ain’t getting the ball. How would he take it Diggs ego definitely needs to kept in check - he was trying to get crowd ramped up after bad call by Zebras but Bills were still on offense. There was enough noise from opposition fans in this game. Quote
PayDaBill$ Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Absolutely not, too one dimensional, predictable, & easy to defend. Sure he needs touches but the ball needs to move around a bit to keep the D honest. We have a Ferrari at QB and we surrounded him with Yugo’s. Roster management is lacking. Can we dump old man Von, Knox & reallocate money to a wr2? Edited October 16, 2023 by PayDaBill$ Quote
Saxum Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, 4th&long said: It’s obvious diggs is the only one Josh trusts. They will need to get another wr in the off season. I would say trade for one but we all witnessed how they treat players they trade for last season with Hines. And Davis will not be getting a big payday! Hines was traded for midseason; it takes time to get in sync with Josh (never other way around). 49 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Some DC [Belichick?] is going to sell out [double with help] covering Diggs, and force Josh to go to his later reads, will remain to be seen if the other receivers can step up, and whether Josh is patient. Diggs isn't a size mismatch like Kelce, he's got to be open. Absolutely. Bele-CHEAT always tries to take away the best weapon. Dorsey needs to plan for this and adjust plan including more hitting of DBs on line like in Mijami game. Quote
thenorthremembers Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Its like Josh said in his post game, Diggs is the 1st read in most progressions, if he is open, which he is most of the time, he is going to throw it. The Bills have a serious offensive weapon problem. Until someone steps up and shows they can hold onto the damn ball then Diggs is going to get the targets. I really don't want to be that guy but when I watch the Eagles, 49ers, and Dolphins I can't believe the amount of talent they have on offense compared to the Bills. Edited October 16, 2023 by thenorthremembers Quote
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