Why weren't Thibideaux, Lawrence, and Williams thrown out of the game??? Update: Fines handed out

[Special K]

Can anyone explain this??

 

When seeing the replay, it was clear that these three idiots committed unprovoked acts of aggression on Dawkins and Brown.

 

Thibideaux was seen kicking Dawkins in the head and neck area, and Lawrence and Williams threw themselves like missles and knocked Brown to the ground.

 

I'm sure their wallets will be lighter later in the week, but at least one, if not all three of these clowns should have been ejected from the game!!

 

Thoughts??

[Simon]

You wanted them to eject most of the Giants DLine all at once because of some shoving and wrestling on one play? 

[Bermuda Triangle]

I'm sure that Daboll told his guys to target Brown, Oliver and Dawkins - guys who are hotheads and would likely take the bait.  

 

No punches were thrown, and none of the actions rose to the level of being an intent to injure, so I was okay with the offsetting PFs.

[That's No Moon]

The better question is, why was Josh Allen being an absolute dumbass and throwing his throwing shoulder into that mess?

[Special K]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

You wanted them to eject most of the Giants DLine all at once because of some shoving and wrestling on one play? 

 

pushing and shoving is one thing, but kicking someone in the face and chasing someone around and knocking them to the ground 30 seconds after the play is over is quite another, IMO.

[DrDawkinstein]

They didnt do anything ejection worthy. That is pretty much down to throwing a punch. Lawrence was close when he got Brown on the ground, but didnt swing.

[Bermuda Triangle]

1 minute ago, That's No Moon said:

The better question is, why was Josh Allen being an absolute dumbass and throwing his throwing shoulder into that mess?

his injured throwing shoulder, no less.  He had banged up the shoulder prior to that skirmish

[Special K]

1 minute ago, That's No Moon said:

The better question is, why was Josh Allen being an absolute dumbass and throwing his throwing shoulder into that mess?

 

Oliver and Allen will probably receive fines for their actions as well.

[Simon]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

They didnt do anything ejection worthy. That is pretty much down to throwing a punch. Lawrence was close when he got Brown on the ground, but didnt swing.

 

Yeah he had that thing cocked and I was hoping he'd dumb enouhg to throw it at Brown's helmet and get tossed. 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

Personally I would've ejected Williams. That was a pretty energetic hit a solid 30 seconds after the whistle and semi-injured Brown (who hadn't really done anything during the play/scrum). 

 

Frustrating to see 4 personal fouls called with 3 on the Giants and 1 on the Bills only to all offset. And the call on the Bills was the weakest one of the bunch. 

[Simon]

Just now, Special K said:

 

Oliver and Allen will probably receive fines for their actions as well.

 

Maybe Dawkins too since he was sort of the one that started the whole thing.

Hands to the face twice on one play; he should have been called for the first one, if not the second one also. 

[Special K]

1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Personally I would've ejected Williams. That was a pretty energetic hit a solid 30 seconds after the whistle and semi-injured Brown (who hadn't really done anything during the play/scrum). 

 

Frustrating to see 4 personal fouls called with 3 on the Giants and 1 on the Bills only to all offset. And the call on the Bills was the weakest one of the bunch. 

 

Exactly....the play was long over, and he's physically chasing Brown around to knock him to the ground....totally out of line.

 

Plus Thibideaux actually kicked Dawkins....kicking someone is the same as throwing a punch, IMO.

[Simon]

11 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Personally I would've ejected Williams. That was a pretty energetic hit a solid 30 seconds after the whistle and semi-injured Brown (who hadn't really done anything during the play/scrum). 

 

Yeah, that was pretty close.

Although Spencer was playing mean through the whistle right along with Dawkins (and Thibodeaux).

Lawrence overreacted some but Williams was frustrated from just having a football jammed down his craw for 8 straight minutes and was out of line.

 

[Richard Noggin]

8 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

Exactly....the play was long over, and he's physically chasing Brown around to knock him to the ground....totally out of line.

 

Plus Thibideaux actually kicked Dawkins....kicking someone is the same as throwing a punch, IMO.

 

Unfortunately, the only action will be taken this week, and it will be pointless fines that these particular well-paid players won't even notice. Maybe if the kicking in the head thing is obvious there might be some potential for a suspension...but I didn't even catch that from my vantage (which is actually pretty perfect to see that all unfold, down near that goal line on the Bills side). You miss a lot of details in person. You see some things with amazing clarity, but you just can't take it all in on every play. And you definitely don't get any info from the PA system or replays. 

[Warcodered]

33 minutes ago, Simon said:

You wanted them to eject most of the Giants DLine all at once because of some shoving and wrestling on one play? 

They injured Brown, did he get back into the game?

 

I know he's our least favorite O-lineman performance wise but that was ***** up.

[BobbyC81]

1 hour ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

I'm sure that Daboll told his guys to target Brown, Oliver and Dawkins - guys who are hotheads and would likely take the bait.  

 

No punches were thrown, and none of the actions rose to the level of being an intent to injure, so I was okay with the offsetting PFs.

Williams came close.  After he knocked Brown down he stood over with a clenched fist, coiled, but then thought better of it.

[Utah John]

1 hour ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

his injured throwing shoulder, no less.  He had banged up the shoulder prior to that skirmish

Was it smart?  Probably not.  Will the rest of the Bills love him even more?  You betcha.

 

He's as tall as the linemen, though not as heavy, and he doesn't think anyone can push him or his teammates around.

[Albanybillsbacker]

The only thing that was close to ejection worthy was the kicking by Thibideaux.  I don’t know how the announcers didn’t catch on to that.  
 

https://x.com/complexsports/status/1713749037570990304?s=46&t=ZPSqGVzU97vtboh4VlefLw

[Teddy KGB]

[Livinginthepast]

10 minutes ago, Albanybillsbacker said:

The only thing that was close to ejection worthy was the kicking by Thibideaux.  I don’t know how the announcers didn’t catch on to that.  
 

https://x.com/complexsports/status/1713749037570990304?s=46&t=ZPSqGVzU97vtboh4VlefLw

Because the announcers were the dolt Collinsworth and his speak no evil partner Tirico. Thibideaux repeatedly kicked (at least 4 times). That should have been an ejection.

additionally, How do 3 Objectionable conducts offset with 1? What a stupid rule. Typical NFL logic.