Giants @ Bills Postgame thread

[Beast]

17 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I thought that was a DB not Oliver that should have tackled him in bounds.

No, Ed had him low and Taylor got away.

[Franco_92]

The Bills are quite familiar with 4-2, they had that record in both 2020 and 2021. Onward!

[hondo in seattle]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:

What this game told me was that the Buffalo Bills need to draft offensive lineman and secondary help along with a good go too running back. Put Thurman Thomas, Joe Cribbs on this team the Bills are a much better team. I don’t trust any of our current running backs where I believe they can take a game over there all not good enough. The offensive line has to be number one in the draft the Bills need line help badly so they can dictate play at the line of scrimmage in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

 

Our backs are fine.  I'd rather work on the OL as you suggested.  Give the backs a better line and they'll get the yards, and Josh will have more time to throw to receivers who have more time to get open.  And Josh will stay healthier.

 

Of course, I'd love to see the Bills have a Thurman-quality RB.  But how many of those are available in the draft?  With the RB position devalued, it seems the best athletes now play other positions.  Back in OJ's day, for example, the best athletes wanted to be running backs.  That's not true anymore.  

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

15 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I hate it when people post stills to prove a point, if the ball moved before the knee it the ground, it’s a fumble. 

Agreed. That was 100% a fumble. I went back and rewound it a few times. 

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Agreed. That was 100% a fumble. I went back and rewound it a few times. 

in the modern NFL, where every player on D is trying to punch the ball out more than make a tackle, fighting for yards in a scrum on 1st and 2nd down is not a wise decision.

[k2mountain]

I normally like visiting and reading here on a victory Mondays.

 

But today isn't quite the same positive vibe, it's more like a loss Monday, and understandably so.

 

A blowout victory in New England is what the Doctor orders. I hope the pharmacist can make it so.

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Agreed. That was 100% a fumble. I went back and rewound it a few times. 

Are people trying to say it wasn't😂😂

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Are people trying to say it wasn't😂😂

haha— apparently some dude on twitter who has a still shot that is very misleading. 

[WideNine]

9 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

in the modern NFL, where every player on D is trying to punch the ball out more than make a tackle, fighting for yards in a scrum on 1st and 2nd down is not a wise decision.

 

Agree.

 

I am all for fighting to get to the sticks, but only if you can wrap up the ball or switch it to the hand nearest the sideline.

 

That way if it is punched out it likely goes harmlessly out of bounds.

 

Josh had to learn how to tote the rock in traffic, remember how often he would fumble back in the day?

 

It can be taught and Gabe has a bigger frame and should play bigger than he does at times. 

 

Davis does excel at blocking.

 

Other than that, go down and live for the next down if it is not a 3rd or 4th down situation.

 

 

 

 

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

Agree.

 

I am all for fighting to get to the sticks, but only if you can wrap up the ball or switch it to the hand nearest the sideline.

 

That way if it is punched out it likely goes harmlessly out of bounds.

 

Josh had to learn how to tote the rock in traffic, remember how often he would fumble back in the day?

 

It can be taught and Gabe has a bigger frame and should play bigger than he does at times. 

 

Davis does excel at blocking.

 

Other than that, go down and live for the next down if it is not a 3rd or 4th down situation.

 

I am pretty sure the coaches have been preaching YAC and Davis, who is terrible at YAC, was trying to accommodate.  He failed.

[MAJBobby]

 

[Royale with Cheese]

21 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Are people trying to say it wasn't😂😂

I saw a screenshot where his knee was down.  I didn’t see it from the stands and they didn’t show a good replay.

Was it clearly out?

[freddyjj]

2 hours ago, Mango said:

At the risk of getting flamed, you cannot win championships targeting one receiver 16 times per game.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401131047

 

Tyreek in 2020 Season Super Bowl.  16 targets, 9 catches > 100 Yds and no TDs.  Chiefs won 31-20.

 

 

 

[DapperCam]

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I saw a screenshot where his knee was down.  I didn’t see it from the stands and they didn’t show a good replay.

Was it clearly out?

You can see in the screenshot that the ball is already part of the way down his forearm. It was definitely moving before his knee was down.

[WideNine]

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I saw a screenshot where his knee was down.  I didn’t see it from the stands and they didn’t show a good replay.

Was it clearly out?

 

It was a fumble.

 

The ball was clearly loose before his knee touched down.

 

If it was one of our defenders punching the ball out we would find it an easier call to defend.

 

Was a drive killer that hurt quite a bit as they were just getting into a good rhythm.

 

 

 

[Low Positive]

Snap counts are up in the NFL gamebook. The interesting thing to me is that Rapp didn't play a single snap on defense. https://static.www.nfl.com/gamecenter/b07e111b-f053-11ed-b4a7-bab79e4492fa.pdf

[freddyjj]

2 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

All turnovers are booth reviewed.  

Only challenged ones, turnover on downs in normal time play.   Booth replay officials are solely responsible for stopping the game to initiate a review on any play that starts after the two-minute warning in each half and throughout overtime.

[Aussie Joe]

14 hours ago, stevestojan said:

I’m going to head over to the Giants board just to confirm they agree with the no flag on the last play. I’ll report back. 

 No need… i was just on the Dolphins board and they said definite pass interference on the Bills

[Toledo Bill]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

Depends.  What impact are you looking for?

 

The first impact the 1TDT/NT is supposed to have is "keep the linebackers clean so they can make plays".

 

Judging by the LB play, for the most part, it worked.

I guess I was looking for more penetration on passing plays. I think I got spoiled by Jones play and as a result better penetration by Oliver. 

[syhuang]