Giants @ Bills Postgame thread

[Ta111]

8 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Yes there were.  In fact there was a lot more then a lot of fans want to acknowledge.  Here's a couple:

 

In 1991, the Bills best offense of the Super Bowl years lost at NE 16 - 13. The Bills were 10 - 1 and the Pats 3 - 8 when that game was played. Kelly threw 4 INT's.

 

In 1992, the 5 - 2 Bills hosted the 0 - 7 Pats at Rich Stadium. At halftime the Bills were trailing 7 - 0 and Kelly had thrown 2 INT's.  The fans booed the Bills off the field.  I know this because I was at the game.  The Bills came back and won it 16 - 7.

 

In 1988, the 11 -2 Bills lost to the 3 - 10 TB Bucs at Tampa 10 - 5.  The Bills trailed 10 - 2 late in the 4th quarter.

 

A there are a lot more.

 

For those that appreciate the history of the Bills I highly recommend Sal Maiorana's Relentless. This book as every box score from 1960 through the 1993 season.

 

 

 

It’s called recency bias. People only seem to remember what’s happened in the last game played.

[UKBillFan]

For all of the criticism of Knox for dropping a low pass - which wasn't a great throw - I thought Diggs drop in the first series was worse. Josh placed it well, away from the defensive player, just above head height, and it was catchable IMO. We see receivers make those catches week in, week out to help their QBs out (and, yes, we see players make catches that Knox messed up too).

[Dopey]

5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Yes there were.  In fact there was a lot more then a lot of fans want to acknowledge.  Here's a couple:

 

In 1991, the Bills best offense of the Super Bowl years lost at NE 16 - 13. The Bills were 10 - 1 and the Pats 3 - 8 when that game was played. Kelly threw 4 INT's.

 

In 1992, the 5 - 2 Bills hosted the 0 - 7 Pats at Rich Stadium. At halftime the Bills were trailing 7 - 0 and Kelly had thrown 2 INT's.  The fans booed the Bills off the field.  I know this because I was at the game.  The Bills came back and won it 16 - 7.

 

In 1988, the 11 -2 Bills lost to the 3 - 10 TB Bucs at Tampa 10 - 5.  The Bills trailed 10 - 2 late in the 4th quarter.

 

A there are a lot more.

 

For those that appreciate the history of the Bills I highly recommend Sal Maiorana's Relentless. This book as every box score from 1960 through the 1993 season.

 

 

 

I'm just reacting to your comment which tells me you don't watch much football.  Sure, I wouldn't call it a "good throw" but it wasn't a "crap throw" either I would call it GOOD ENOUGH.

 

BTW, do you expect Allen to perfectly place the ball on every throw?  When I watch KC I see a lot of over thrown & under thrown Mahomes throws being caught regularly.  Kelsy alone has 3 - 4 per game.

 

Such a dumb statement. Again, 2 things can be true. He could have caught it, but it was a crap throw. Obviously not GOOD ENOUGH. I don't expect perfection, but you can't place blame only on Knox on that one. Allen was part of the issue with that play. 

[hondo in seattle]

So far, we're 4-0 when I wear my Kelly jersey and eat wings during the game.

 

We're 0-1 when I wear my Allen jersey.  

 

We're 0-1 when I wear my Kyle Williams jersey - though in fairness to Kyle, I also skipped the wings because it was a morning game.  

[scuba guy]

26 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Interesting look...Davis appears to be down with possession?  Why was this not overturned on replay review...should have been looked at by the booth since it was a turnover? 

 

 

In the game thread I said he knee was down in the replay when they showed it and then went to commercials I thought after them we would have the ball but nothing 

[All_Pro_Bills]

11 minutes ago, Process said:

Josh looked completely defeated and miserable after the game yesterday. It's way too early in the season for that. 

 

As fans we can be upset with a game like that. But these guys are battling against other professional athletes, a win is a win. Josh shouldn't be so down about it. 

 

Still a lot of season left. Gotta keep that fire going .

 

 

I expected the Bills were going to destroy this Giants team and I also expect every single Bills player and coach felt the same way.  And not only did they fail to do that, they almost lost, and maybe deserved to lose.  Everybody says the right thing about respect for the opponent and not taking any team lightly on the schedule but that might be what they did last night.  Thinking just showing up would be enough.  While the other guys came to play and take care of business.  Maybe some mental toughness and focus is missing and that's something the coaches need to take care of ASAP.  

Edited October 16, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills

[Dan]

31 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Interesting look...Davis appears to be down with possession?  Why was this not overturned on replay review...should have been looked at by the booth since it was a turnover? 

 

 

I was wondering about that watching the game.   It looked really close to me… but no replays at all.  But clearly his knee looks down there.  Oh well.

[Beast]

Anyone notice how Oliver HAD Taylor on that scramble and if he brought him down that is probably the game as time very well may have expired?

 

Not being critical of Ed. He’s having a great year but if we had a different outcome that play would have been magnified.

[TheWei44]

3 minutes ago, scuba guy said:

In the game thread I said he knee was down in the replay when they showed it and then went to commercials I thought after them we would have the ball but nothing 

At the time, I thought he might have been down too and that we should've considered challenging it.  Oh well.  A win is a win but that was not a pleasant evening of football for Bills fans!

[TheFunPolice]

it seemed like the team had this weird dazed look to them, but maybe that's just me projecting based on the feeling of watching it

 

It doesn't seem like the joy of the game is there this season.

[Matt_In_NH]

4 hours ago, BernieBill said:

It was a disgusting performance from the Bills in a primetime game ... Sean McDermott is a disaster, the Bills offense under his watch is an inconsistent mess ... it's embarrassing to barely beat an already bad and severely injured New York Giants team, to score 14 points.  But "Glory to God," right Sean?

 

Uh, excuse me sir, the Bills offense has gone from bottom 5 to top 5 under his watch.   And top 5 has been for three years which I would describe as consistent

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, Dan said:

I was wondering about that watching the game.   It looked really close to me… but no replays at all.  But clearly his knee looks down there.  Oh well.

I was screaming at the replay because at the game, they showed one angle and you couldn’t tell.  Why were they showing a shot??

[Belgium_Bill]

1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

it seemed like the team had this weird dazed look to them, but maybe that's just me projecting based on the feeling of watching it

 

It doesn't seem like the joy of the game is there this season.

Is it too late to blame this on jet lag as well ? 😏

[scuba guy]

So my biggest item after the game that we won by the way is.

 

How much are those players going to be fined for the hay maker.

 

Dion had a foot in his face and reacted.

Brown got knocked down from the blindside.

And Morris pulled Diggs out of the scum.

Allen hit the lb with his left shoulder sticking up for brown.

[HoofHearted]

2 hours ago, gtw3 said:

Thank goodness you're here to set the record straight.

And it’s all free of charge. You’re welcome!

[MasterStrategist]

36 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Interesting look...Davis appears to be down with possession?  Why was this not overturned on replay review...should have been looked at by the booth since it was a turnover? 

 

 

I rewatched/rewind on DVR live.

 

It was close, but the ball starts to move as #58 punches at it AND before Gabes knee hits the ground.

 

The still shot above doesn't do it justice.  Frame by frame you will see the ball move, before knee touches down.

[TBBills Fan]

The entire team needs to go on a retreat and take some Ayahuasca so they can properly bind and figure this ***** out 

[scuba guy]

5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

it seemed like the team had this weird dazed look to them, but maybe that's just me projecting based on the feeling of watching it

 

It doesn't seem like the joy of the game is there this season.

First off the team was flat layed an egg. 

Second they were still recovering for that ***** tuff in England 🇬🇧 🤧.

 

The dazed look on Josh's face at the press conference was like I can't believe dobs did this to me

[TheFunPolice]

I just re-read the last several pages of this thread and I think a few people mentioned the same thing.

 

That happy go lucky smile and swagger that Josh had just isn't there much this year. He looks freaking miserable almost every game. 

 

Maybe it's the weight of expectations, a true issue with Diggs, frustration, or something off the field. But that's the thing I notice most. Even postgame last night when he was interviewed as the winning QB on the field, he seemed like a guy that just lost a playoff game. A couple clichés, then he said "let's go home." 

 

Couple that with his comment of "same **** different day" after the Jets game and I am starting to worry a bit about his psyche. These guys are human, and I hope whatever it is gets fixed. 

 

Also, Tirico had set the postgame interview up as Josh and Diggs but it was just Josh standing there looking like he'd rather be anywhere else in the world. 

 

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by TheFunPolice

[Matt_In_NH]

43 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Interesting look...Davis appears to be down with possession?  Why was this not overturned on replay review...should have been looked at by the booth since it was a turnover? 

 

 

   You really need to slowmo frame by frame to see if he has lost control in the image above.  It was close though.....they never showed it, I rewound on the tv but could not slow it down to tell.