Giants @ Bills Postgame thread

[thebug]

W

[alanvh2o]

4 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:

The guy who posted a pic on this same page 10 posts up...for starters

dont blame me for drinking 

[BRH]

59 minutes ago, boyst said:

First win we have had at home with a scoreless first 3Q since 1987 against the Jersey Giants

I believe that was a strike game with scabs, too. 

[gobills1212]

2 minutes ago, alanvh2o said:

dont blame me for drinking 

No judgment here. You asked a question - I answered. Cheers

[Dr.Sack]

I’ll take a W

[Beck Water]

18 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

This game I thought the offensive line played fine enough to win. That Gabe Davis fumble and the Josh INT along with some drops really hurt the Bills chance to get offensive momentum. 
 

I will say this the defense was impressive, they made the big plays when they needed to. Dorian Williams and Bernard held up at LB while the defensive line forced the Giants into a game plan that was focused on quick throws and QB movement. Outside of a few trap plays they adjusted to quickly the ground game of the Giants was cut down to size: 

 

This game shouldn’t have been this close but a win is a win

 

We have too many skill players "out of sorts" - the play gets to them, and they can't clinch the deal.  If it's true Knox is playing with a torn ligament and a broken bone, in a brace, I don't want to dunk on him too much, but it's not good.  Gabe Davis fumbling, etc.

 

I am proud of our LB and Taron Johnson.  They may be small, but they're fierce.  When Taron tackles a guy, he knows he's been hit.

[BillsGuyOutWest]

Kind of random but in terms of momentum, how many times were the Giants defender “injured” after we’d pick up a first down? 5? 6?

[AlfaBill]

9 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Frankly I have no patience for these clowns who spout off about that.  I just watched a lot of football this weekend and saw that catch and tougher ones being made all over the place.  Now if it was the 1st quarter we could complain that Allen's throw didn't enable Knox to score because it was under thrown.  But on that play you make the catch and the game is over.

 

And to be fair to Knox his injury probably made that a much more difficult catch then it should have been.

 

 

 

I agree. I don’t think a lot of posters watch any other teams games. If they did, they’d see it. Also, maybe they weren’t fans during the drought? Josh is the best or at least top 3 Qb right now. It wasn’t long ago when Tuhrod Taylor was our franchise. Lol

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

We have too many skill players "out of sorts" - the play gets to them, and they can't clinch the deal.  If it's true Knox is playing with a torn ligament and a broken bone, in a brace, I don't want to dunk on him too much, but it's not good.  Gabe Davis fumbling, etc.

 

I am proud of our LB and Taron Johnson.  They may be small, but they're fierce.  When Taron tackles a guy, he knows he's been hit.

The problem is Knox always drops balls. It’s his MO. And Gabe is feast or famine. always has been 

Edited October 16, 2023 by AlfaBill

[Bills!Win!]

I think what contributed to the offense being lackluster was Daboll knows Allen better than anyone. Even Allen admits it. If the giants had any other coach I say we win 31-6

Edited October 16, 2023 by Bills!Win!

[AlfaBill]

9 minutes ago, Nelius said:

This was celebrated in the GDT but there was an equal amount of “I’d rather he be sitting by now” and typical cynicism so it got quickly drowned out.

 

Tell you this much - Joe Burrow would never 

 

He shouldn’t do that. He’s a bloody QB. Ya Josh has balls, but I’d prefer he didn’t do that kinda stuff

[Boatdrinks]

Giants came to play, that’s for sure. The Bills looked like they were still somewhere over the North Atlantic. 

[mykidsdad]

8 minutes ago, arcane said:

This is a game that most NFL teams play a dozen times per year, and we are blessed that it isn't the norm for us. This is the NFL and the around-the-league scoreboard showed a lot of games like this this weekend. That doesn't mean that it's acceptable for the Bills to not meet their standard, especially against the Giants, and we are lucky we won, but we are also lucky that this type of game isn't the standard. And frankly, I find myself happy right now, because this game reminded me a lot of the Jags game, the Vikings game, games where we just come up short because we can't handle playing with the plebs the way they're used to doing it. But we actually won. 

 

Sorry, I'm not convinced at all that Dorsey was a problem. I saw the same plays we executed on in the 2nd half being screwed up on the field in the 1st half. "Running out of shotgun" probably averaged 7 YPC tonight, and the precious play action dropbacks were miserable because the Giants dismissed them completely. 

 

A bit worried about Allen's shoulder. 

This is the post that sums it up well. Agree. The nfl is almost always close games decided by a bounce or a tip or a big play each and every time. We need to get to the playoffs and be playing well then. In the mean time I need to stock up on my heart medication!

[Beck Water]

 

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Beck Water

[buffaloboyinATL]

26 minutes ago, Alpo Chino said:

Offense should really try and mix in some tempo. Josh is good in the 2 min drill. 

Are you suggesting we need more free agents, and should start by taking them to Tempo?

 

[WideNine]

1 hour ago, RyanC883 said:

Collinsworth such a Giants homer, that amount of inconsequential grabbing happens a lot.  

 

The Giants got away with a lot of holding and tripping in the 1st half on Diggs and Davis.

 

Weak fumble by Davis, Knox's play was uninspired.

 

Allen hits the half-court and misses the layups.

 

Was an ugly game by the offense with too many execution errors.

 

It was sloppy and that is on Dorsey to correct.

 

 

 

[folz]

It was a weird day in the NFL. I'm going to chalk it up to the solar eclipse. 😊

 

San Fran and Philly both upset by lesser squads. Scoring was down across the league: 19 of 26 teams scored fewer than 21 points. Only 3 teams scored more than 24 points. Most games were close (whether they were expected to be or not). Quarterback play across the league was consistently bad today. There were 29 total passing TDs vs. 31 total INTs thrown this week, collectively. Yes, the Bills only scored 14, but KC only had 19, the Bengals 17, the Eagles 14, the 49ers 17.

 

Just a strange week...let's take our win, thank you very much, and move on.

 

Plus, as others have said, Daboll knows this team better than anyone. We still run HIS offense (with some tweaks). He helped mold Josh...he knows all of his tendencies, etc. And Daboll ran his offense against McD's defense for how many years, so he has a lot of knowledge on that angle as well. And he doesn't just know Josh, he also worked with Stef, Gabe, Knox, Dion, Mitch...he knows  a lot of our personnel very well (as does Schoen). That all has to be an advantage/balance the scales talent-wise a bit.

 

I look at it as an ugly win that allowed our defense some time to reset. We squeaked out a game where Von was able to help ramp up some more, where our young LBers and corners got some important reps/experience, and the defense overall got to re-gel with so many new starters and role players needing to fill in. And overall, they played well...so hopefully we see an upward arrow there (after the dip of losing Milano, Tre, and DaQuan).

 

Offense has hit a bit of a slump these last two games, but I'm not worried yet. Could just be London and Daboll/eclipse 😁, and execution (Josh missed a few throws today, we again had some drops, etc.). 🤷‍♂️ Now, if they lay another egg next week against the Pats, I might start to worry a bit, but we all know what this offense and Josh are capable of. I feel strongly that they'll get back on track. I was at least happy that their halftime adjustment was to come out and pound the ball...and they had some success doing that. But they do still seem to be trying to find their true 2023 identity. Hopefully that happens soon.

 

Prayers for Damien! 🙏

 

Go Bills!

 

 

[Beck Water]

2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Giants came to play, that’s for sure. The Bills looked like they were still somewhere over the North Atlantic. 

 

I think that sums it up pretty well

[mykidsdad]

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

Giants came to play, that’s for sure. The Bills looked like they were still somewhere over the North Atlantic. 

From the intensity I saw in the Giants I feel like Daboll and the team saw this is their kind of Super Bowl. Plus, that D sees this O in practice every day. We are blessed to survive this one. Phew.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

17 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I really wasn't impressed with the Bills defense. The looked vulnerable against a very poor Giants offense. An offense that had Tyrod Taylor, mash unit of an oline, and a recovering Barkley. You realize this unit hasn't scored a TD this season? 

 

It was a commendable defensive effort, not terrible but it's nowhere near good enough to stop a Good playoff caliber offense. The injuries will likely be just too much to overcome. I suspect the defense won't win a lot of games vs good offenses.

 

What really is worrisome is the offense. I think it's the offense that has to carry this team come playoff time. The last two games they have been worst than bad. Sadly, Allen has been the only ray of hope. 

 

Dorsey is just not OC material. It's just that simple. The oline has regressed after such a promising start. The lack of offensive weapons and explosiveness is obvious and problematic. 

 

Short term high for the win tonight. However, when you look at the long term view it's much bleaker than anticipated. 

Do only our opponents have injuries that matter? 

[Franco_92]

Maybe the tv levels were just warped, but it sure sounded like the crowd did not get loud on the last giants drive until the last couple plays. I do not like night games in OP