Is a Healthy Von Miller an Option to Replace Milano?

[muppy]

I do like that a creative answer was stated after the loss of Milano. It is a huge loss. I'm kind of gripping over what will happen now as much as anybody on this board. . But in actuality he can't be replaced. But I dont mind honest questions.

 

I learn a lot reading all you football IQ heavyweights on topics I would have zero idea how to answer.

 

Cheers.

[frostbitmic]

I'd like to see Von get thru a game or two first without pulling or tearing something.

[buffaloboyinATL]

2 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Most of Von Miller’s career has been OLB in a 3 -4.  I understand that OLB in a 3 -  4 is apples and oranges to an OLB in a 4 - 3, or a 4 - 2 - 5.  Nevertheless, is it crazy to try a completely healthy  (big if) Von Miller in Milano’s spot?  It keeps Floyd, Groot and/or AJE on the field.  I’m sure he would be fine against the run and most likely a liability in pass coverage.  It would, however, be neat to move him around and put even more pressure on opposing QB, similar to how Dallas uses Parsons.  I’m guessing the answer is maybe five years ago but not at 34 after two knee surgeries.

You forgot to say “hear me out”.

[US Egg]

2 hours ago, Fleezoid said:

I wouldn't want to take away Von's biggest threat.......Sacks!

You can never have enough sacks. 🤭

[Donuts and Doritos]

Or Tyler Bass

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 hours ago, Motorin' said:

Alternatively, I've wondered the same thing about Leonard Floyd. 

I thought the same thing. Floyd probably could play the OLB spot in a pinch better than Miller at this point. 

[Saxum]

The only way Milano can be replaced by Miller is if the scheme changes.

 

Bills could try changing scheme to 5-2-4 scheme.

[pennstate10]

3 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said:

Someone has got to come in with the cheap shots and dirty plays though

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

Yes, but the assignments, techniques, and responsibilities for a 3-4 OLB are universes apart from those of a 4-3 OLB. 

The assignments, techniques, and responsibilities for a 3-4 OLB are much closer to those of a 4-3 DE.

In short, Von Miller has always been an Edge defender. He has NEVER been an off-ball linebacker. They are completely different positions. Even though Miller has gone by the title "outside linebacker" in the past, what he was doing bore little to no resemblance to what Matt Milano does in the Bills' defense. 

It would be no different than asking Joey Bosa or Myles Garrett to play Milano's position. It would be asking a player to learn a completely new position. A total "fish out of water" situation. It would not be reasonable whatsoever to ask Von Miller to do this. Only, as I mentioned, very occasionally and in very specific situations, should Von Miller ever be asked to line up anywhere other than the edge.

Agree with everything except your examples. Bosa and Miles are 3 inches taller and 25 - 30 pounds heavier than Miller.  So in that context Miller would have a far better chance to succeed at OLB in a pinch than those guys. 

[oldmanfan]

No.

[BullBuchanan]

If Milano played in a 3-4 he'd be an ILB. a 3-4 OLB is just a 4-3 DE in disguise.

[bobobonators]

4 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Most of Von Miller’s career has been OLB in a 3 -4.  I understand that OLB in a 3 -  4 is apples and oranges to an OLB in a 4 - 3, or a 4 - 2 - 5.  Nevertheless, is it crazy to try a completely healthy  (big if) Von Miller in Milano’s spot?  It keeps Floyd, Groot and/or AJE on the field.  I’m sure he would be fine against the run and most likely a liability in pass coverage.  It would, however, be neat to move him around and put even more pressure on opposing QB, similar to how Dallas uses Parsons.  I’m guessing the answer is maybe five years ago but not at 34 after two knee surgeries.

the idea is bonkers. No way. Might as well ask Allen to play Milano’s spot. He might be better at it than Miller 

[Dablitzkrieg]

3 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Don’t disagree with most of the comments to the thread. Just throwing some “out of the box” thinking.  One comment I do agree with is occasionally having him on the field with two DE’s.  One I disagree with is that the majority of his career has been as a 4 - 3 DE.  Didn’t Denver run a 3 - 4 for most of his time there?

Stay in the box.   That's a pretty dumb idea.   

[QLBillsFan]

Hmm all due respect.. no. Completely different positions entirely. Wish it was that easy because it sure would help. We suddenly seem to be be pretty decent at DE and banged up elsewhere. 

[Shortchaz]

I could envision a 5-1-5, with the right personnel, where they either rush 5 or rush 4 leaving one of the linemen to spy or drop into coverage (situationally) 

 

obviously as a special package, not a standard d 

Edited October 14, 2023 by Shortchaz

[NoHuddleKelly12]

A wrecking ball at safety? 🫣

 

 

 

 

 

(I kid I kid) 

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, QLBillsFan said:

Hmm all due respect.. no. Completely different positions entirely. Wish it was that easy because it sure would help. We suddenly seem to be be pretty decent at DE and banged up elsewhere. 

 

Which is why I suggest playing with 5 defense men - 2 DEs, 2 DTs and a NT.  It has been done before.

[freddyjj]

5 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Don’t disagree with most of the comments to the thread. Just throwing some “out of the box” thinking.  One comment I do agree with is occasionally having him on the field with two DE’s.  One I disagree with is that the majority of his career has been as a 4 - 3 DE.  Didn’t Denver run a 3 - 4 for most of his time there?

No he plays 4-3 DE and has for 80% of his career

[Solomon Grundy]

7 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Most of Von Miller’s career has been OLB in a 3 -4.  I understand that OLB in a 3 -  4 is apples and oranges to an OLB in a 4 - 3, or a 4 - 2 - 5.  Nevertheless, is it crazy to try a completely healthy  (big if) Von Miller in Milano’s spot?  It keeps Floyd, Groot and/or AJE on the field.  I’m sure he would be fine against the run and most likely a liability in pass coverage.  It would, however, be neat to move him around and put even more pressure on opposing QB, similar to how Dallas uses Parsons.  I’m guessing the answer is maybe five years ago but not at 34 after two knee surgeries.

NO!! 

[Brother Hesekiah]

7 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Most of Von Miller’s career has been OLB in a 3 -4.  I understand that OLB in a 3 -  4 is apples and oranges to an OLB in a 4 - 3, or a 4 - 2 - 5.  Nevertheless, is it crazy to try a completely healthy  (big if) Von Miller in Milano’s spot?  It keeps Floyd, Groot and/or AJE on the field.  I’m sure he would be fine against the run and most likely a liability in pass coverage.  It would, however, be neat to move him around and put even more pressure on opposing QB, similar to how Dallas uses Parsons.  I’m guessing the answer is maybe five years ago but not at 34 after two knee surgeries.