Frank Clark...of interest?

[Alphadawg7]

Would I take Clark here at that price...of course...will it happen, I am skeptical given EDGE isn't really a position I think Beane or McD feels we need upgrades on.  Groot, Floyd, and AJE have been stellar...Von just got back and should get stronger as the season goes on, and then we still got valued depth behind them.  

 

But at that price, I wouldn't rule it out depending on what the draft pick compensation would be.  I mean that contract is now easy for us to bring in, so given the weakness created by injuries on the D, maybe they they will see him as insurance to make sure the pass rush is top notch which can also help mask other deficiencies in the secondary if we are consistently disrupting the QB up front rushing 4.  So having more bodies to have fresh rushers rotating in all game is something they like to do, so I also won't rule this out.  

 

[Logic]

Nope.

The Bills don't need another Edge.

You're not taking Von or Floyd off the field more than needed. You're not stunting the growth of Rousseau and Epenesa, who have both been playing well. So where does Frank Clark fit in?

The Bills could use a 1T, a WILL, a corner...but not so much an Edge.

 

[Blank Stare]

I’m game. If for no other reason than keeping him off KC. 

[Nephilim17]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Honestly, yes.  
 

An argument is there to be made that we should make our fastball faster.  
 

Load up on the pass rush.  
 

Bring Von along slowly.. Allow EDGE dealing with a nagging injury to fully heal (Floyd, Rousseau) and then once everyone is healthy, we can kick Rousseau inside on passing downs. 
 

No better way to protect a sus secondary than with nonstop pass rush. 

With his pay cut, this is a cheap way to add another legit weapon to the defense. 

 

Very interesting.

I've seen this idea of putting Rousseau inside before — is there evidence, from college or in the NFL, that he can win inside? Or is it all hypothetical at this point?

[KingBoots8]

The knee jerk reaction was no, but considering the price I think you make the call and see what they want. I think he has enough in the tank to make meaningful plays still

[Buffalo03]

31 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

If you make moves just to prevent another team from signing a guy you are running your organization poorly. Should we also call and overpay the Jets for Mecole Hardman? A 2nd could accomplish it. 

 

As far as should they have interest...IMO no. 

I don't agree with this completely. It depends on the player

[Low Positive]

DJ Jones is inactive tonight with a knee injury, but isn't he who the Bills should want from the Broncos?

[Prospector]

39 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Simmons has an $18,000,000 cap hit.

Let's pretend he doesn't

[SoonerBillsFan]

I would do it and move Kingsley to the PS if possible. Look our top LB is gone, the secondary took a big hit with Tre and both safetys are slow. More pass rush would help.

 

And let me throw this out there... The Johnson Defense that Mcdermott was raised in was a 4-3.  Sign clark, move Miller to the WLB  and lets roll with a 4-3.  Think on that for a minute...

[ngbills]

Clark or K Jonathan? I take Clark for the vet presence and playoff experience. Miller and Floyd need to manage snaps and I would rather see a rotation with Groot, AJE with Miller, Floyd, Clark. Heck you can even bump AJE or Groot inside vs certain teams and go with a front 4 of Miller, Groot/AJE, Oliver, Floyd/Clark, especially in passing situations. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I don't agree with this completely. It depends on the player

It really shouldn't. You sign players that fit your scheme and your team. If you're adding players (and I assume you would be talking about high level guys) that don't improve what you do just so another team can't sign, ultimately you are paying big bucks and getting reduced output back from it. Horrible way to manage a team.

 

Now if the player fits and can improve your team...so be it.

[mrags]

I can’t believe someone in this thread said absolutely not because of how stacked we were at the position and listed Shaq Lawson and Jonathan Kinglsey as 2 of the pieces that made us stacked. 

[noacls]

Gun charges and domestic violence charges. Sounds like a great idea

[Buffalo03]

5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

It really shouldn't. You sign players that fit your scheme and your team. If you're adding players (and I assume you would be talking about high level guys) that don't improve what you do just so another team can't sign, ultimately you are paying big bucks and getting reduced output back from it. Horrible way to manage a team.

 

Now if the player fits and can improve your team...so be it.

Well yes, the scheme fit is obvious. That's not what I meant. I was talking as if they did fit the scheme and it came down to two teams that are trying for a Super Bowl. If that guy fits my scheme and he's a great player and I can keep him out of the hands of the other team, I'm doing it

[starrymessenger]

1 minute ago, noacls said:

Gun charges and domestic violence charges. Sounds like a great idea

Not a process kind of guy. Have a hard time seeing McD being in favour of it.

[BuffaloBillyG]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Well yes, the scheme fit is obvious. That's not what I meant. I was talking as if they did fit the scheme and it came down to two teams that are trying for a Super Bowl. If that guy fits my scheme and he's a great player and I can keep him out of the hands of the other team, I'm doing it

Yes but need for your team still has to dictate. Obviously, if the player fits a need you go all in if another contender is trying as well. But if it just to stack a player at a position you don't need filled it's a waste of cap space and possibly hindering the opportunity to shore up your squad in another area. 

 

For the Bills right now EDGE is not a need. 

[Warriorspikes51]

I like the idea of moving Greg/Clark inside on 3rd downs and having 3 good pass rushers on the field together

 

Having that kind of edge rush can help mask losing Milano and Tre at least somewhat
 

Floyd

Von

Rousseau

AJ

Clark

Kingsley

 

will the Bills do it?   Very unlikely.

Edited October 12, 2023 by Warriorspikes51

[DCofNC]

I’ll pass, plenty of talent at DE, desperately need an interior presence.   

[BillsFanForever19]

We don't need a Defensive End. We're stacked there. 

 

All of these trade posts are being made for positions where we don't need help when we don't have money to begin with.

 

If a Linebacker or a Cornerback becomes available, those will be the only positions we should try and make something happen with. And it would take a lot of work.

[Blackbeard]

Love the idea especially if cheap (obviously).

 

We aren't going to find much above average help in the secondary.  So we need to be ready to go with rush.

 

Who knows what Von's gonna do.  Greg with a busted up foot.  Floyd had something last game too.  

 

One of these guys goes down long term, and we're toast imo.  Absolutely would be calling at this point.  Absolutely.