Bills COO and senior VP fired

[Doc]

22 minutes ago, ToGoGo said:

Optics. You just promoted these two. Just after firing the guy that went severely over budget on the stadium. And especially after Brandon. 
 

Reassign them and move on. It’s not like the city of Buffalo is flooded in executive talent. This isn’t NYC. 

 

The optics of having a guy boinking his female underling is worse.

[MiltonWaddams]

4 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said:

This is why you don’t have a romantic relationship with somebody who reports to you. 

Don’t tell my wife that.

21 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

 

I've been near him, he's about the same height as me, about 5'8", maybe an inch or two difference at the most. 

Ergo, short. 😘

[ToGoGo]

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The optics of having a guy boinking his female underling is worse.

Only to a vocal minority. 

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

Terry Pegula is involved with Kim Pegula, former president of the Bills. 

You mean they have been married for 30 years and have three kids together? Yes, they're involved. 

[Coach Tuesday]

2 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

Extramarital

 

Why do so many of these coo types need to be so sleazy?  Is it like some sort of primal need to exert this artificial power?  She wouldn't look at him twice if he was in the mail room or grounds crew

Life ain’t that simple my friend.

 

3 hours ago, Mango said:

I agree to an extent. Some things get wonky when one person roles into the other. But COO and General Council are both fairly high on the totem pole. The issue I think is the general council more so than a workplace violation. 
 

I worked somewhere where our SVP of Sales dated and married our general council. They were basically told “we can’t keep you both, it’s a conflict.” And we let the GC go. 
 

Assuming they were fairly forthcoming about it I’d give them time to work it out. 

This.  You can’t have your GC - who is your chief risk manager for the entire organization - engage in such risky behavior.  Your COO is a close second there in terms of who you’d need to be risk-appropriate.  And perhaps if they had disclosed it promptly and properly it would’ve been dealt with differently (though one of them surely would’ve had to leave).  

Edited October 12, 2023 by Coach Tuesday

[Behindenemylines]

5 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said:

What a mess

That’s what she said

[Sierra Foothills]

2 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

Extramarital

 

Why do so many of these coo types need to be so sleazy?  Is it like some sort of primal need to exert this artificial power?  She wouldn't look at him twice if he was in the mail room or grounds crew

 

What makes you say "extramarital?"

 

There is no indication of that so you shouldn't carelessly make remarks to that effect.

 

[foreboding]

6 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

With all of the turnover on the business side of the Bills and Sabres, it’s hard not to feel like the Pegulas are difficult to work for/please.

 

I’d be curious to see how the turnover compares to other NFL teams.

Or Kim was the stabilizing force...

[Behindenemylines]

5 hours ago, The Wiz said:

I've always heard "don't shiit where you eat"

Don’t dip your nib in the company inkwell. 

[Behindenemylines]

Had to fire the senior executive and the junior executive he was bonking because they were ruining the business. As my attorney plainly put it..You just don’t diddle the help. 
 

They spent more time on extracurricular activities and it just put so much stress on everyone else.  They were both in really easy jobs making a ton of cash too. Idiots
 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

6 hours ago, FireChans said:

In Terry’s day, they used to just get married

True. I guess times have changed. From Kim's wiki page:

 

while interviewing for a waitressing gig, she met Terry Pegula who was dining at the restaurant. In 1991, Terry offered her a job at his natural gas company and they eventually entered a relationship; they married in 1993.

 

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

The optics of having a guy boinking his female underling is worse.

Especially after they just went through that scenario in the past few years.  And especially after the problems in the Sabres organization with a similar issue.  

[PrimeTime101]

6 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah, look at the size of his head compared to hers.  It's like 6 times the size!

are you sure about that? 

[SectionC3]

36 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said:

Had to fire the senior executive and the junior executive he was bonking because they were ruining the business. As my attorney plainly put it..You just don’t diddle the help. 
 

They spent more time on extracurricular activities and it just put so much stress on everyone else.  They were both in really easy jobs making a ton of cash too. Idiots
 

 

Right on with this.  A former low-level ADA who lucked into being GC about of an NFL team about 10 years after graduation can't be shagging the boss when she's responsible for such things as, you know, sexual harassment issues at their place of employment.   How stupid they both were. 

[WyoAZBillfan]

17, 14 and 40 still there 😅? Otherwise…who? 

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

 

The optics of having a guy boinking his female underling is worse.

 

Is it? Why? If the relationship is entirely consensual and not affecting them doing their jobs what is the problem?

[skibum]

Next man up

 

[todd]

An old manager told me years ago when I was enjoying the single life and was in a "casual relationship" with a coworker in a different department and also casually seeing another girl in the organization, "Don't sh*t where you eat." I was in my 20s. It was good advice. 

[PBF81]

7 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Life ain’t that simple my friend.

 

This.  You can’t have your GC - who is your chief risk manager for the entire organization - engage in such risky behavior.  Your COO is a close second there in terms of who you’d need to be risk-appropriate.  And perhaps if they had disclosed it promptly and properly it would’ve been dealt with differently (though one of them surely would’ve had to leave).  

 

 

[Dan Darragh]

I'm interested in the General Counsel job and am willing to relocate.  What's the weather like in Buffalo during the winter?