Augie Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We have depth. Jonathan looks good. We have 5 quality edge players not including Epenesa. If Denver wanted Epenesa and a pick for Surtain you wouldn’t do it? We were playing some DT we had never heard of at DE yesterday because we were out of DE’s. Von played a ton early (more than hoped for or expected), but then I didn’t see him later. What was his snap count 1st half vs second half? What, EXACTLY, is the Rousseau situation? No, unless you are tanking (and that ain’t us), I keep the guys who are being productive. JMO Quote
PauleeeWalnuts Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 The way our defensive players are dropping? Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 9, 2023 Author Posted October 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Augie said: We were playing some DT we had never heard of at DE yesterday because we were out of DE’s. Von played a ton early (more than hoped for or expected), but then I didn’t see him later. What was his snap count 1st half vs second half? What, EXACTLY, is the Rousseau situation? No, unless you are tanking (and that ain’t us), I keep the guys who are being productive. JMO Von is on preseason snap mode. He’ll be ramped up each week. Obviously if Rousseau is out a while you can’t make a trade. This is all depending on the health situation at edge. AJ is our 4th DE. We currently don’t have a starting WLB or CB1. 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We have depth. Jonathan looks good. We have 5 quality edge players not including Epenesa. If Denver wanted Epenesa and a pick for Surtain you wouldn’t do it? Why would Denver want to give up Surtain? And for an 11 game “4th best DE” rental? Edited October 10, 2023 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Only for a corner. But even then probably not. Let him walk and get a late round comp pick Quote
3rdand12 Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Once Von is full go we’ll have Rousseau, Miller, Floyd, Lawson, and Jonathan. Jonathan has shown promise. Epenesa’s value won’t be any higher. He’s playing good football. The other option is extending him to pair with Rousseau in the future. With the injuries Epenesa could bring back a solid player to help at CB or LB. For Patrick Surtain ? yes And I do like AJ Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 If anything, he deserves an extension because next year is Von’s last year for sure and we need youth. Quote
3rdand12 Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Why would Denver want to give up Surtain? And for an 11 game “4th best DE” rental? Okay we give them Elam too. Straight up 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: If anything, he deserves an extension because next year is Von’s last year for sure and we need youth. Perhaps. Agreed with youth. Not sure about Vons last year though. But forward thinking is critical thinking Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 10, 2023 Author Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Why would Denver want to give up Surtain? And for an 11 game “4th best DE” rental? Depends if they view AJ as a starting edge player for them. AJ and a 1st for Surtain. If AJ isn’t viewed as a starting edge in the league then obviously a trade wouldn’t happen. Edited October 10, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote
newcam2012 Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: The only way they trade AJE is if they already decided he isn't a long term plans kind of player. And I doubt they have made that decision after he is having a breakout through these injury opportunities. Him and Groot could anchor our Edge rush a long time if he keeps playing at this level and shows its not just some little short lived hot streak. I think you consider trading him if the compensation is right and if he's going to be expensive to keep. Lots of unknowns. He's playing lights out and by far the best he's ever played. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Depends if they view AJ as a starting edge player for them. AJ and a 1st for Surtain. If AJ isn’t viewed as a starting edge in the league then obviously a trade wouldn’t happen. This trade is not going to happen … you are right there 4 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Okay we give them Elam too. Straight up They want two firsts so they said no Quote
Southern_Bills Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Never trade a productive edge rusher, we all know all too well how quickly injury depletes a position group. We are trying to win a SB, not be the team in the best position to win every "off-season" Quote
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 No. We need a young dude to pair with Groot. Quote
Saxum Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Mikie2times said: He had a pick 6 in one game and Dominated a full game as much as any DE we have seen since probably Bruce. On top of it we waited years for him to flash. We can’t trade him right now. He’s an impact player and you can’t have enough of those when you’re making a Super Bowl push. AJE needs to increase his ability on running downs but that is something which he can work on. During first 2 years his weight changed up and down per instructions of training staff but it seems to be right now. This is a player who was a multi-sport athlete (A.J. on the varsity team for four seasons that all ended in the state playoffs) who walked into Iowa and got a position on team. Quote
nedboy7 Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Makes me wonder. What could we get for Josh? 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: The only way they trade AJE is if they already decided he isn't a long term plans kind of player. And I doubt they have made that decision after he is having a breakout through these injury opportunities. Him and Groot could anchor our Edge rush a long time if he keeps playing at this level and shows its not just some little short lived hot streak. If only they'd thought about that with Edmunds😎 Quote
Virgil Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Oh ***** me. At 3-2, really? Yes, trade him. Trade Josh. Buy real estate on the moon. 1 Quote
Saxum Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: They want two firsts so they said no IMO Surtain is not worth 2 1sts. He would be on a different defense which takes time to adjust to and rather than having 1st round picks next two years. The Alabama product is adept at playing man coverage, as he possesses the length and speed to stay in front of the best wide receivers. We do have an QB whose strength is man-to-man but have not been able to put Quote
Aussie Joe Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Just now, Limeaid said: IMO Surtain is not worth 2 1sts. He would be on a different defense which takes time to adjust to and rather than having 1st round picks next two years. The Alabama product is adept at playing man coverage, as he possesses the length and speed to stay in front of the best wide receivers. We do have an QB whose strength is man-to-man but have not been able to put Maybe not…but they don’t have to trade him either Quote
Maynard Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 No. Von looks like grandma Lavonne out there right now. Quote
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