Milano/Jones BOTH require surgery; Per McDermott

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I don't want either one of those.  I would feel equally as in the dumps without Oliver.

 

Agreed.  I guess I am more speaking to those who suddenly have Jones as "the one guy we can't lose".  

[Success]

9 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Any word yet on the full extent of Milano’s injury situation? 

 

I don't think there is anything new.  I doubt we get a rough timeframe until he has surgery. Even then, they'll probably be cautious with what they tell us.

 

But if they don't come out right away & say it's season ending, I would take that as a promising sign that they think he could make it back by the playoffs if the recovery goes well.

 

[BBFL]

23 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I don't think there is anything new.  I doubt we get a rough timeframe until he has surgery. Even then, they'll probably be cautious with what they tell us.

 

But if they don't come out right away & say it's season ending, I would take that as a promising sign that they think he could make it back by the playoffs if the recovery goes well.

 

Curious because all I’ve read is “indefinitely”. No expectation he comes back this season just wondering if the severity is career threatening or not. 😞

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, BBFL said:

Curious because all I’ve read is “indefinitely”. No expectation he comes back this season just wondering if the severity is career threatening or not. 😞

 

I think indefinitely means they are leaving the door open for a possible return this year.  

[Herc11]

15 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

McDermott said he would require surgery I believe.

https://bangedupbills.com/2023/10/09/examining-buffalo-bills-matt-milanos-right-knee-injury/

 

I think he's done for this year. 

Surgery can be as minor as putting in screws. Just cause it's surgery, doesn't tell us a lot. We begin walking elderly patients with fractured hips that are getting screws placed the same day of surgery.

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

Mas Roids

 Roids don't speed up the healing process

[ShakAttack]

Given the fact both of these injuries were pretty much declared “season ending” on Sunday, the fact that it is Tuesday afternoon and we still don’t have a concrete answer is probably the best case scenario, weirdly enough. 
 

At this point, if by some miracle Milano could return in the post-season, I would trade that for a “win” against the Jags every single time.

 

it is always about being healthy at the RIGHT time.  
 

I am not saying I am getting my hopes up, because I am not; every person with medical knowledge that has chimed in on both injuries have pretty confidently stated that they are out for year, but at the same time, McDermott is usually a straight shooter (on injuries) and the fact that he STILL hasn’t closed the door on a return this season for either player is at least something. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by BobBelcher

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, BobBelcher said:

Given the fact both of these injuries were pretty much declared “season ending” on Sunday, the fact that it is Tuesday afternoon and we still don’t have a concrete answer is probably the best case scenario, weirdly enough. 
 

At this point, if by some miracle Milano could return in the post-season, I would trade that for a “win” against the Jags every single time.

 

it is always about being healthy at the RIGHT time.  
 

I am not saying I am getting my hopes up, because I am not; every person with medical knowledge that has chimed in on both injuries have pretty confidently stated that they are out for year, but at the same time, McDermott is usually a straight shooter and the fact that he STILL hasn’t closed the door on a return this season for either player is at least something. 

I think  they’re waiting to see if milano’s knee ligaments are intact when they get in there.  
it’s probably closer to good news than bad that we haven’t heard anything…maybe things didn’t look too bad in the X-rays/mris 

 

Minor fractures don’t take terribly long to heal if that’s all he’s dealing with he could be back.

 

torn pec feels like more of a ‘you could return at massively diminished effectiveness so what’s the point’ issue though so I’m less optimistic on jones 

he probably could play in the playoffs in a harness 

Edited October 10, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[SloanBillsFan]

What is the real injury to Milano? Every article I read says something different. First it was a torn MCL. Then it was a fractured/broken leg. Then it was both. Prognoses are equally scattered. Season ending; could be back before the end of the regular season  

 

Thanks for the clarification. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by SloanBillsFan
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[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think  they’re waiting to see if milano’s knee ligaments are intact when they get in there.  
it’s probably closer to good news than bad that we haven’t heard anything…maybe things didn’t look too bad in the X-rays/mris 

 

Minor fractures don’t take terribly long to heal if that’s all he’s dealing with he could be back.

 

torn pec feels like more of a ‘you could return at massively diminished effectiveness so what’s the point’ issue though so I’m less optimistic on jones 

 

I have a little hope since Mliano was originally able to walk the field with assistance.  I've seen nasty breaks and those guys can't put an oz on it and usually air casted immediately.

 

JJ Watt's first game back was our 2019 playoff game at Houston.  I can't remember how he played.

 

 

[SCBills]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I have a little hope since Mliano was originally able to walk the field with assistance.  I've seen nasty breaks and those guys can't put an oz on it and usually air casted immediately.

 

JJ Watt's first game back was our 2019 playoff game at Houston.  I can't remember how he played.

 

 

 

Pretty sure I remember Watt being a beast against us in that game.  

[TheFunPolice]

I also wonder about Jones coming back from a pec tear 

 

You would think he would be nowhere near 100% and his position requires a lot of shoving and stress on that muscle group 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, SloanBillsFan said:

What is the real injury to Milano? Every article I read says something different. First it was a torn MCL. Then it was a fractured/broken leg. Then it was both. Prognoses are equally scattered. Season ending; could be back before the end of the regular season  

 

Thanks for the verification. 

I don’t think the bills have officially said anything besides knee/lower leg injury that will require surgery so all of that is speculation…there was also a quote that they feared ligament damage I believe but it was never confirmed 

 

People  just guessing based on the phrasing of knee/lower leg it seems. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[BuffaloBaumer]

I heard this morning that the surgery would be more for the broken bone on Milano and NOT the ligament damage. I think that is the best scenario at this point but who knows. 

[stevewin]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Pretty sure I remember Watt being a beast against us in that game.  

And his name/likeness being said/shown a trillion times

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, SCBills said:

 

Pretty sure I remember Watt being a beast against us in that game.  

 

I was at that game too lol.  

[Logic]

If you were to ask me "who are the two most important defenders that the Bills can least afford to lose to injury for most of the season?", I would have said Milano and Jones. 

Absolutely brutal.

[RiotAct]

4 minutes ago, stevewin said:

And his name/likeness being said/shown a trillion times

yep.  Didn’t they even have a “Watt Cam” at certain points in that game?  Lol

[damj]

22 hours ago, Einstein said:

Hard to imagine a worst case scenario on defense.

Could be worse. We could sign a CB who washed up 3 years ago to replace Trey

[Success]

Winning a SB usually relies on a few things:  having a talented team, getting a little luck, and - this is the big one - overcoming adversity.

 

The Bills, for whatever reason, have been given a more-than-average dose of adversity, and in more than one season.  Last season, we just couldn't overcome it. It wasn't just injuries - it was the Hamlin situation, the blizzards, the relocations.  It hit a critical mass.

 

I don't think we're at that point this season.  We've been given an early gut punch of injuries to 3 key positions and players.  But, the operative word there is "early."  A few things can still happen: 

 

 - the back-ups might turn out to be really good, resulting in a defense that isn't quite as good, but still near the top.

 - the back-ups could falter, in which case there is plenty of time for Beane to make a move or 2

 - And, best case - the back-ups hold steady, and either Jones or Milano or both make it back in time for a playoff run.

 

I know I probably go overboard w/ hopeful rationalizing, but situations like this can actually galvanize teams.  If a team has strong leadership and a positive mentality, it can be something to rally around. 

 

As a fan, I'm choosing to be hopeful, and to look at the situation more as being excited to see what Williams and Ford can bring to the table.  They might really step up; it's not that far-fetched to hope that they do.  And really, what other way is there to look at it?  Whatever happens w/ Milano & Jones is out of our control.

 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

50 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

I heard this morning that the surgery would be more for the broken bone on Milano and NOT the ligament damage. I think that is the best scenario at this point but who knows. 

Didn't TO come back from this injury after 7 weeks and dominate in the Super Bowl?

Hopefully Matt makes it back by late December!