BuffaloBillyG Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 No time table, but doesn't sound great for either. 7 4 1 Quote
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Well everyone expected season ending for both so anything less is a bonus. Let's just hope our first 4 games next year are softer teams. I also feel as though Von is going to produce next to nothing this year and will hopefully be serviceable by next September. 2 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Sounds like a full rupture for Jones if it requires surgery. 6 month recovery. Bummer. Quote
BillsFan130 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) To be honest, I think this is all we could have hoped for at this point..  Milano they were looking at ACL, so that must be intact.  Jones I think we all knew torn pec.  The fact that MCD didn’t rule them out for the year yet? that’s about as positive it can be given McDermotts comments yesterday.  The watt brothers missed a couple months with torn pec injuries, Jon feliciano missed 3 months.  Lets hope he’s around that 10 week range and back for playoffs Edited October 9, 2023 by BillsFan130 8 2 3 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) My knee jerk reaction is that the season is over as far as hope for a SB. Maybe a wildcard game but idk. Too soon to truly know I suppose.   (rough crowd lol. I did say it was a knee jerk reaction)  so. I'm going to bring this on myself here. I just find it a little fake that so many people would thumb down and laugh at this take. I admitted right out of the gate that it was a knee jerk reaction. Y'all know what that means right?  Other than maybe just trying to act like you are sooooooo confident that losing 3 key pieces of our defense during the last game will still heals the same results as if they were healthy and playing. We all know our safety's are getting old and slowing down. Elam is a first round disappointment. Also this offense is either hot or cold. Losi g to two very bearable teams. The schedule doesn't get any easier. But yeah I'm trash for being honest. I have a bunch of Bills fans who when we talk face to face all same the same thing. Come on here and voice concern and booooo, disagree, trash hahaha. Ok whatever. Edited October 10, 2023 by Goin Breakdown 2 2 1 1 4 7 Quote
Einstein Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Our two most impactful defensive players this season. Gone. Hard to imagine a worst case scenario on defense. 1 9 Quote
Real McClappy Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 This just flat out sucks. Â What's next FFS? 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) They're both season ending. A torn pec takes about 4 months to heal. A rupture about 6. Either way, that's the whole season and playoffs.  Matt Milano and Daquan Jones were the two best performers on our Defense. The ramifications of this on the Defensive side of the ball, is massive. Especially following losing Tre. That's the best player on 3 different levels of our squad.  It's so frustrating because I felt injuries were the biggest thing that held us back last year. So I was hoping for better luck this year. 5 games in and it's the same story.  There's really no replacing those guys. Jordan Phillips, Dorian Williams, and Dane Jackson can only hope to lessen the drop off. But it's still going to be a drop off, even if they play their best all year. Edited October 9, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 2 12 Quote
RiotAct Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Well everyone expected season ending for both so anything less is a bonus. Let's just hope our first 4 games next year are softer teams. I also feel as though Von is going to produce next to nothing this year and will hopefully be serviceable by next September. he’ll probably retire after this season. 1 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: My knee jerk reaction is that the season is over as far as hope for a SB. Maybe a wildcard game but idk. Too soon to truly know I suppose. teams go through injuries. We won’t be the only. 3 3 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, NoSaint said: teams go through injuries. We won’t be the only. Very true very true. 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: They're both season ending. A torn pec takes about 4 months to heal.  Matt Milano and Daquan Jones were the two best performers on our Defense. The ramifications of this on the Defensive side of the ball, is massive. Especially following losing Tre. That's the best player on 3 different levels of our squad.  It's so frustrating because I felt injuries were the biggest thing that held us back last year. So I was hoping for better luck this year. 5 games in and it's the same story. There's really no replacing those guys. It really depends.  JJ came back when tearing his pec in late October.  Feliciano missed 3 months.  If he misses let’s say 10-12 weeks, he will be back at some point Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 I’ll take this as good news as if Matt’s ACL is intact he could possibly be back.  Daquan is a ruptured Vs a torn which is a big difference from a 3 month injury to a 6 month injury 1 1 Quote
ngbills Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 The O matters much more honestly. To win in the playoffs it is going to be much more about scoring points. 2 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 9, 2023 Author Posted October 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: My knee jerk reaction is that the season is over as far as hope for a SB. Maybe a wildcard game but idk. Too soon to truly know I suppose. Amazing how a narrative switches. For YEARS I have seen right here on this board that "defense doesn't matter" and it's all about offense these days anyway.  We still have an ELITE defensive line. Floyd and Groot are legit. Add in AJE who is coming along. And anything we get from Von is a plus as well. Ed Oliver is having a career year as well.  We have Bernard making plays every week. Benford hopefully back soon and Dane Jackson is adequate. Will we be as good as before? No of course not.  But there is no reason to believe this defense can't make some stops. Truthfully, maybe a little new blood and young legs is needed in some spots.  I think McDermott scheming the defense will be a plus as well. He'll figure out ways to cover some weak spots.  Fortunately, this is all happening early in the year. Gets players like Benford, Williams, Poona or whoever comes in time to get reps and build knowledge in the system.  Season is far from over IMO 2 1 6 Quote
blacklabel Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) Son of a b! Frick! Goll-ee! Gosh durnit! Darn!  I recently subscribed to the Kirk Cousins/Philip Rivers School of Vulgarity Alternatives. How am I doing?  For real tho, bummer and a half. Milano being out changes the defense a lot. He's so versatile and instinctive and they trust him to handle a lot. And well.... Tyrel Dodson and Dorian Williams aren't those guys so...  And I dunno if they have anyone that can quite do what Jones has been doing this season.  It'll be interesting to see what they do to adjust. I'mma go kick rocks. Edited October 9, 2023 by blacklabel 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Well everyone expected season ending for both so anything less is a bonus. Let's just hope our first 4 games next year are softer teams. I also feel as though Von is going to produce next to nothing this year and will hopefully be serviceable by next September. These incessant injuries just keeps pushing seasons out another year. It's unbearable. 1 Quote
Success Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 The fact that he says they don't know if it's season ending for either provides just a small bit of hope.  Who knows? Even if either could make it back for the playoffs, it would be huge. I'll hold out some hope.  3 Quote
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