Billsfan1972 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) Yep not Frazier so many are happy. Yes injuries too. Yesterday they were not good, but get a pass. Is this because of McD 40 mins top is on them. But of course reading blame on the offence. They were not great the play calling was atrocious which seems to always be the case in close games but at the end of the day the defence was meh..... Edited October 9, 2023 by Billsfan1972 1 1 8 3 6 Quote
Success Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 I thought they were amazing yesterday. They were on the field almost twice as long as the offense. 5 11 3 Quote
FireChans Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Billsfan1972 said: Yep not Frazier so many are happy. Yes injuries too. Yesterday they were not good, but get a pass. 40 mins top is on them. But of course reading blame on the offense. They were not great the play calling was atrocious which seems to always be the case in close games but at the end of the day the defense was meh..... The defense gets a pass because they lost 5 starters and still played better than a perfectly healthy offense over the course of the game. If your rickety defense holds a team to 11 points through 3.5 Q’s and your offense can only muster 7 points and keeps going three and out, there’s one unit that deserves the lion share of the blame. 2 11 5 Quote
Warcodered Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Yesterday two of our best defensive players went down and that defense still kept the game within reach while the offense did practically nothing until there was 3 and a half minutes left. Yeah I think they get a pass. 5 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Posted October 9, 2023 How about they force a few 3 & outs? Lawrence had 200 yards passing the first half. 1 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Billsfan1972 said: How about they force a few 3 & outs? Lawrence had 200 yards passing the first half. The jags also had 29 first downs and they average about 19 1 Quote
Nephilim17 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Don't get the logic of a pass because of McD. It gets a pass because it was missing 5 high-end starters and Miller played a pitch count after being out for a year. Quote
whorlnut Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 What is up with the OP? The defense was still VERY good yesterday even after Milano and Jones went down. The emergence of Oliver and Epenesa is going to help with those losses. Plus we will elevate ford. We should be fine on d. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 The game was 11-7 entering the 4th. We didn't have Milano, Jones, Miller, Floyd, Rousseau and Lawson. We had Vickers playing edge who is a back up DT on the PS. AJ is on the sidelines gasping for air due to exhaustion. Jonathan Kingsley went down twice. Ed Oliver went down. Taron Johnson went down. We already were down Poyer, White and Benford. The game was 11-7 entering the 4th. 2 1 1 Quote
Brand J Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Defense played admirably. Got turnovers when we needed them, held JAX to 11 pts through 3 quarters with a patchwork unit. Untimely penalties and other 3rd down conversions hampered them, but they put up much more fight than the offense. Look, the Bills are gonna go as far as the offense can carry them. This is and should be more an offensive team than a defensive one, we just need that unit to get stops from time to time (a la the Bengals and Chiefs units). To win the SB Allen and the offense will have to elevate their play. No Jets/Jags performances in the playoffs. 1 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, GoBills808 said: The jags also had 29 first downs and they average about 19 shhhh!!!! Can't say that. Cincy was down 3 OL vs. Bills in the playoffs yet overcame. Quote
BruceVilanch Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 I thought the defense played incredibly well, the offense didn't hold up their end. Quote
BananaB Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Success said: I thought they were amazing yesterday. They were on the field almost twice as long as the offense. That’s because they couldn’t get off the field all day long. O had their struggles as well but it was all around ***** play on both sides of the ball. D gave up 300 yards in the air and 185 on the ground. 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 No, this team doesn't get a pass not just the defense. The QB has been here 6 years, the HC 7, 2nd year of an offensive coordinator. This team has the talent to win a Superbowl. 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: How about they force a few 3 & outs? Lawrence had 200 yards passing the first half. He had 11 pts that's all that mattered, Hell Josh had more passing yards than him at the end of the day, does it matter ***** no convert it to points. Edited October 9, 2023 by Warcodered Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Defense was not why we lost yesterday. Offense squandered all the mo by not double dipping at the start of the 2nd half. Multiple catches for FDs dropped. Josh under throwing Stef twice took 2 tuddys off the board. The only player that showed up besides Stef and Josh was AJ Epenesa. D had 2 turnovers. On the field for 40 mins. Not the Ds fault. Quote
RyanC883 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Yep not Frazier so many are happy. Yes injuries too. Yesterday they were not good, but get a pass. Is this because of McD 40 mins top is on them. But of course reading blame on the offence. They were not great the play calling was atrocious which seems to always be the case in close games but at the end of the day the defence was meh..... 2 takeaways from the Jags when they were in the red zone. 5 sacks despite injuries. The offense was a MAJOR issue. (I'd still like a CB...Surtain II). 1 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: 2 takeaways from the Jags when they were in the red zone. 5 sacks despite injuries. The offense was a MAJOR issue. (I'd still like a CB...Surtain II). How did they get into the red zone? The D let them there. 40 minutes time of possession is all you need to know. Always excuses and sorry A lot of it has to do because McDermott is the coach on that side of the ball now. Quote
GoBills808 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, BananaB said: That’s because they couldn’t get off the field all day long. O had their struggles as well but it was all around ***** play on both sides of the ball. D gave up 300 yards in the air and 185 on the ground. this, neither side played well but to the point of the OP we have people who will point to 11 points (through 3.5 quarters lol) is indicative of a good performance (never mind Jags rushing for 200 or going 10/18 on third down) and then immediately argue in another thread that giving up 30+ to Skylar Thompson isn't indicative of a bad performance, so basically the offense must be the default unit of blame 1 Quote
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