As we all hate on Ken Dorsey today let’s remember

[Buffalo_Stampede]

The offense is really good.

 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Missing the details. Shotgun draw to Cook  goes for negative. 

[Jauronimo]

The offense was complete garbage yesterday

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

The offense was complete garbage yesterday

By our standards. I saw Diggs running free multiple times.

Edited October 9, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[MasterStrategist]

No debating the stats look good.  But the inconsistent performances, Jets and Jags, cost us 2 wins.

 

Even with a depleted defense, no excuse to get "shut down" in the 1st half.

 

I'm a Dorsey supporter, but he has to devise better plans than what we saw yesterday.  Not saying execution was great, but this offense went back to lacking identity/rhythm and that to me is more on coaching.

[NewEra]

It was great playing against LV, wash, Miami.  
 

it was bad vs NYJ and jax.  
 

3 good.

 

2 bad. 

[Process]

Another way to look at it. 

 

Our offense has lost us 40% of our games this year. 

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said:

No debating the stats look good.  But the inconsistent performances, Jets and Jags, cost us 2 wins.

 

Even with a depleted defense, no excuse to get "shut down" in the 1st half.

 

I'm a Dorsey supporter, but he has to devise better plans than what we saw yesterday.  Not saying execution was great, but this offense went back to lacking identity/rhythm and that to me is more on coaching.

This is the way

[GerstAusGosheim]

The offense being really really good in 60% of the games, and dogpoop in the rest, isn't going to cut it.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, NewEra said:

It was great playing against LV, wash, Miami.  
 

it was bad vs NYJ and jax.  
 

3 good.

 

2 bad. 

Turnovers vs Jets.

 

Jacksonville there were drops. I also feel like there were plays to be made that we didn’t make.

[Jauronimo]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

By our standards. I saw Diggs running free multiple times.

By any standard for offensive football.  Diggs running free and not getting the ball is consistent with a garbage offensive performance.

[oldmanfan]

Dorsey at times does not seem to recognize that defenses have watched tape as well and scheme to stop things.  The delays to Cook out of shotgun formation yesterday was a glaring example.  We kept running it, they stopped it cold every time.  You have to adjust better and yesterday he didn’t.

[Roundybout]

In spite of Dorsey, not because of him. 
 

Knox and Kincaid’s decline is shocking. 

[Dillenger4]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

It was great playing against LV, wash, Miami.  
 

it was bad vs NYJ and jax.  
 

3 good.

 

2 bad. 

And to be more clear - we faced two good defenses that were tougher than our guys. And we lost. It seems that when we play "tougher" teams... meaning they want it more than we do... we lose. The Bills don't have that fight in them. Imagine us vs the Niners, Steelers D or even Balt? We lose.

Just now, Roundybout said:

In spite of Dorsey, not because of him. 
 

Knox and Kincaid’s decline is shocking. 

I'm also sick of Knox whining to the refs after every dropped ball or incompletion. Dude is getting annoying... it's football. FIGHT!!!

[BillsFan130]

The guys on WGR made some good points:

 

The nfl is a week to week league.

 

3 weeks the bills O has been excellent.

 

2 it’s been bad.

 

I like looking at it that way^ opposed to averaging stats which can be misleading 

[Alphadawg7]

My issue with Dorsey is his insistence on ignoring the facts and talent.  Allen and the offense have been better with Allen under center yet we again ran a ton out of shotgun again.  I mean I think it was several drives in before Allen finally lined up under center.  
 

He is again not using the talent well either.  For all this two TE attack talk, we once again ignore Knox is on this team and aren’t making much effort to get Kincaid the ball.  And for all the mismatches Kincaid is supposed to be creating, we keep throwing short passes to him only.  You don’t need a smooth athletic TE to throw 5 yard passes too.  You get a guy like him to put pressure upfield, down the seem, mid range…not just short dump offs.  
 

We are running two TE’s out there a lot, but we aren’t throwing to them like we are.  If you look at the stats of our TEs you would think we had one at a time out there and using them to block because neither is doing much as a receiver.  
 

And then there is tendency to make bone headed play calls.  I really thought the Miami game was turning of the corner, but he reverted back this week and it’s concerning.

[Andrew Son]

The problem with our offense is consistency, and it's a fatal flaw IMO.

 

By the end of the year it will be ranked very high but the ride there will be a rollercoaster with several duds mixed in.  That type of variance is not the way to get through a single elimination tournament.  One dud and we're going home.

Edited October 9, 2023 by SWATeam

[Negan]

It's good despite Dorsey.

 

Same offense as last year, no creativity.

 

No screens (TE, RB), not scheming guys open. 

 

Need more slants in our offensive playbook.  We have hardly any YAC with this offense.

 

Sprint draws into 3 defenders. 

 

A trick play once a season would be a welcome sight. 

 

I feel like I typed these same things last year, when will it end ugh?!!

Edited October 9, 2023 by Negan

[Motorin']

4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

My issue with Dorsey is his insistence on ignoring the facts and talent.  Allen and the offense have been better with Allen under center yet we again ran a ton out of shotgun again.  I mean I think it was several drives in before Allen finally lined up under center.  
 

He is again not using the talent well either.  For all this two TE attack talk, we once again ignore Knox is on this team and aren’t making much effort to get Kincaid the ball.  And for all the mismatches Kincaid is supposed to be creating, we keep throwing short passes to him only.  You don’t need a smooth athletic TE to throw 5 yard passes too.  You get a guy like him to put pressure upfield, down the seem, mid range…not just short dump offs.  
 

We are running two TE’s out there a lot, but we aren’t throwing to them like we are.  If you look at the stats of our TEs you would think we had one at a time out there and using them to block because neither is doing much as a receiver.  
 

And then there is tendency to make bone headed play calls.  I really thought the Miami game was turning of the corner, but he reverted back this week and it’s concerning.

 

And first play under center he went play action to Diggs for a huge gain. Then went right back to shotgun spread and the drive fizzled. 

Edited October 9, 2023 by Motorin'

[PBF81]

9 minutes ago, Process said:

Another way to look at it. 

 

Our offense has lost us 40% of our games this year. 

 

And our defense has lost us all the playoff games that got us booted from the playoffs.  27, 36, & 38 in reg.  

 

Your point? 

 

 

11 minutes ago, GerstAusGosheim said:

The offense being really really good in 60% of the games, and dogpoop in the rest, isn't going to cut it.

 

All it has to do is cut it for four weeks come playoff time.  

 

We haven't been able to count on the D in the playoffs.