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[BillsFan692]

39 minutes ago, BILLS55 said:

The fact of the matter is that if this game is played in Buffalo we win the game and probably don't loose Milano for the year. I think it ridiculous that we give up a home game to play a team that clearly has the advantage from playing in a time zone 5 hours ahead for two consecutive weeks on AstroTurf.  Unfortunately as a fan getting mad at the situation is not going to change it. The team should have denied playing in London or at least after seeing it was the Jags who are playing two strait weeks in London agreed only if it was considered an away game. Yes we still loose but we keep 8 real home games. 

I mean saying you wouldn't lose a player xyz or whatever is really just speculation

[BillzFreak]

Just now, FrenchConnection said:

The reason that we dislike them is simple. I don't know what European football you support, but imagine if the league forced them to fly to New York to play an October fixture that counts on a temporary field. All in the name of growing the brand in another country. We get exhibition tours every summer by English, Spanish, and German clubs, but no regular season fixtures or cup ties because that would be unthinkable. 

The NFL has been and always will be about the money. Honestly there is nothing we can do to change that. Other then boycotting the league fans can't fix something controlled by billionaires. Only way to change things is hurt there pockets and with how popular football is in this country it won't happen.

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

I mean saying you wouldn't lose a player xyz or whatever is really just speculation

I agree with this somewhat. Neither season-ender was a turf injury. Milano got rolled up on and a torn pec had nothing to do with the field conditions.

[BillsFan692]

I don't like making excuses. Everyone knows jags had an advantage and it sucks this counted as a home game for us. At the end of the day, our team has shown inconsistency on offense for the past 3 seasons (2020, 2021, and 2022). Until we figure it out we are going to continue to drop a certain # of games per year and when it happens in the playoffs it leads to our demise. The only year where we have seen a streak of consistent offensive performance overt he second half of the season was the infamous 13 seconds debacle. Even in that season, our offense struggled up and down in the first half of the year and really only started clicking in the last 5-6 games of regular season which extended into the playoffs. I would call it our most consistent streak on offense. 

I am not sure why our offense seems to sputter randomly against certain teams. Who is to blame for that consistency issue? Is bad when you drop 48 but then can't muster 20 I am getting whiplash over here. 

Are we good or are we not? Seems week-to-week at the moment.

Edited October 9, 2023 by BillsFan692

[Dillenger4]

Bring back the Toronto series!

[Goin Breakdown]

buffalo should have been on a plane to London much sooner. The commissioner didn't force them to fly out late in the week. It was our own arrogance that forced buffalo to play with jet lag (if that's the excuse)

Also I fully agree with you, Buffalo plays based on emotion. I'm sure we all would to a point, but they even said in the broadcast that Buffalo was just sitting silent on the benches looking sad ever since Milano went out. It was said about the bangles game. It's mentioned whenever Josh throw pics. Steph is the one players that plays the same regardless but gets blamed for wanting out or hating other players. buffalo is soft. I hate to say it. Talents all around and e ought to win a SB but they get in their feels way too much. 

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

I don't like making excuses. Everyone knows jags had an advantage and it sucks this counted as a home game for us. At the end of the day, our team has shown inconsistency on offense for the past 3 seasons (2020, 2021, and 2022). Until we figure it out we are going to continue to drop a certain # of games per year and when it happens in the playoffs it leads to our demise. The only year where we have seen a streak of consistent offensive performance overt he second half of the season was the infamous 13 seconds debacle. Even in that season, our offense struggled up and down in the first half of the year and really only started clicking in the last 5-6 games of regular season which extended into the playoffs. I would call it our most consistent streak.

I'm not usually a person to blame things like this, but when the league itself admits that it was an "experiment" to see just how much of an advantage a team would have after being acclimated to time and place over a team that just flew in I get angry. They knew that they were giving the Jags an advantage in a game that was supposed to be a Bills home game. It turns out that it was a pretty big advantage. If they allow the Jags to play 8 games in a row in London next year, the Jags will win all 8 of them.

 

As to your point, all teams show inconsistency on offense at times during the season. The Chiefs offense looks really shakey right now, but the difference is that they are winning ugly. In the two games where the Bills struggled, they didn't come through at the end to win the game. Really, only the two Shannahan system offenses are clicking every week right now through 5 weeks. That will change as the season progresses. The Bengals woke up yesterday. The Chiefs will start clicking and the BIlls will too. 

[BillsFan692]

2 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

buffalo should have been on a plane to London much sooner. The commissioner didn't force them to fly out late in the week. It was our own arrogance that forced buffalo to play with jet lag (if that's the excuse)

Also I fully agree with you, Buffalo plays based on emotion. I'm sure we all would to a point, but they even said in the broadcast that Buffalo was just sitting silent on the benches looking sad ever since Milano went out. It was said about the bangles game. It's mentioned whenever Josh throw pics. Steph is the one players that plays the same regardless but gets blamed for wanting out or hating other players. buffalo is soft. I hate to say it. Talents all around and e ought to win a SB but they get in their feels way too much. 

but they said on teh radio its the same day Jaxsonville flew over for their win against the falcons the previous week. 

I think they eluded to basically all the teams that fly over to london are doing that 

2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I'm not usually a person to blame things like this, but when the league itself admits that it was an "experiment" to see just how much of an advantage a team would have after being acclimated to time and place over a team that just flew in I get angry. They knew that they were giving the Jags an advantage in a game that was supposed to be a Bills home game. It turns out that it was a pretty big advantage. If they allow the Jags to play 8 games in a row in London next year, the Jags will win all 8 of them.

 

As to your point, all teams show inconsistency on offense at times during the season. The Chiefs offense looks really shakey right now, but the difference is that they are winning ugly. In the two games where the Bills struggled, they didn't come through at the end to win the game. Really, only the two Shannahan system offenses are clicking every week right now through 5 weeks. That will change as the season progresses. The Bengals woke up yesterday. The Chiefs will start clicking and the BIlls will too. 

Seems like KC gets a lot of ref calls going their way for whatever reason. 

I know teams struggle on offense from time to time, is normal in the NFL -- but we have these wildly incosistent swings where it's top gun status or bust and it seems like we have the most 'extreme swings' of any team.

[BeastMaster]

So if we really want to start with the blame game, it falls on Terry for kissing the ring of Roger Goodell and agreeing to this garbage.

 

Then it goes on McD for also saying nothing and not using it as a rallying cry for the team to go in there and take it out on the Jags.

 

Then it goes on the players for not taking it as a slap in their face

 

But, really...they all turned a blind eye and did nothing because London puts more money in all their pockets.

 

Bottom line is that we, the NFL fans are the ones who get the short end of the proverbial stick with games like this. Same thing with crap games on Thursday nights. The product suffers, and fans pay the price. 

 

Understand that the league as a whole cares very little for you, and you will eat whatever sandwich they provide to you.

[Jerome007]

1 hour ago, quincy said:

I was unsure where to post this, my thoughts are that if the NFL wanted Jacksonville to play 2 games in London, one designated as home and then the other one as away then they needed to play the away game at Buffalo first then have the home Atlanta game as the 2nd game.

 

Practically I believe it wouldn't be possible because Tottenham played Liverpool on 30 September and that the Jaguars home game is always at Wembley.

 

This year Jacksonville has "gained" an additional home fixture. I hope this "experiment" ends this year or is significantly modified as one team gained a significant advantage.

 

As a European I am kind of down that a decent amount of Bills fans have negative opinions of European fixtures after this negative 2023 experience. I didn't personally attend but it was a beautiful day and the stadium was at least 85% Bills fans, it should have been an unforgettable day that lingered in the memory. 

 

 

I'm not European but I felt the same too. It was more that the Jags are the experienced team in UK games, plus had 2 weeks in row there. I felt unfair. But that's on the NFL. Oh, it does piss me off when Bills lose home games though. But I get your point.

[Goin Breakdown]

16 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

but they said on teh radio its the same day Jaxsonville flew over for their win against the falcons the previous week. 

I think they eluded to basically all the teams that fly over to london are doing that 

Seems like KC gets a lot of ref calls going their way for whatever reason. 

I know teams struggle on offense from time to time, is normal in the NFL -- but we have these wildly incosistent swings where it's top gun status or bust and it seems like we have the most 'extreme swings' of any team.

I'm not when the falcons flew over. I'm assuming around the same time as Jacksonville so they playing field would be even at that point. 

[Italian Bills]

6 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

buffalo should have been on a plane to London much sooner. The commissioner didn't force them to fly out late in the week. It was our own arrogance that forced buffalo to play with jet lag (if that's the excuse)

Also I fully agree with you, Buffalo plays based on emotion. I'm sure we all would to a point, but they even said in the broadcast that Buffalo was just sitting silent on the benches looking sad ever since Milano went out. It was said about the bangles game. It's mentioned whenever Josh throw pics. Steph is the one players that plays the same regardless but gets blamed for wanting out or hating other players. buffalo is soft. I hate to say it. Talents all around and e ought to win a SB but they get in their feels way too much. 

I always thought the same, we are too soft. Without being stronger in the mental aspect, your chance to get it done, are always minimal.