McDermott Hot Seat?

[CSBill]

16 pages??? 
 

Let me give an answer: “No!”

[gobills1212]

18 minutes ago, CSBill said:

16 pages??? 
 

Let me give an answer: “No!”

To any actual intelligent fan - that answer is obvious and has been discussed ad nauseum though this. Its the 'fans' who feel otherwise. When logic and common sense are applied, of course he isnt. Sadly, some people just dont get it. No one was this stupid during the drought. Its funny what winning does and how it brings out the silly takes. But silly posts like this are the result of those same 'fans' who (regardless of the situation) get upset bc for them, its SB or bust. Of course, thats the goal, but most people understand an NFL season never goes the way you want and expect. Its not a perfect world, but they choose to view it that way.  Its the same people who thought QB1 was washed or had fooled the world the last 3 yrs after week 1. To most people its crazy... but its scarey how many of these people actually exist

Edited October 14, 2023 by gobills1212

[newcam2012]

4 hours ago, WyoAZBillfan said:

Who? Build your leadership room, keep reality in mind. Ready? Go?

Ben Johnson the current OC from Detroit. 

 

I'd even consider Dion Sanders. Can you imagine the buzz? The guy is a winner. 

[newcam2012]

5 hours ago, What a Tuel said:

 

The amount of people who want to apply unbreakable cycles, or some kind of detrimental recurring unfixable fault to the bills is obnoxious.

 

I can't wait for the "bills cant win one score games" crap to start up again because we blew out 3 opponents and somehow thats a slight against us.

 

 

Consistent playoff appearances is how you win a super bowl. Only 3 coaches in the last 25 years have won more than 1.

 

Burning it all down to suit your fantasy that we are going to score a Andy Reid is less likely to win us a super bowl than continuing with our yearly playoff appearances.

 

Year 1: New coach - No playoffs "Its his rookie year"

Year 2: Coach - No Playoffs "he has to get the right personnel"

Year 3: Coach - No Playoffs "he just has to get the right defensive coordinator"

Year 4: Coach - Playoffs "Back in the playoffs, early exit, but we are back!"

 

Its like you guys think new offensive minded coach and immediate super Bowl. Chances are far greater the above happens than an offensive minded coach coming in and taking us to a Super Bowl.

 

Remember when everyone said we missed out on Sean Payton? Thats what you are asking for. Just stop.

You have Josh Allen as your QB. That alone almost puts your team in the playoffs. 

 

The risks of getting a new innovative offensive minded coach isn't as risky as a lot of people think. 

 

The status quo isn't getting it done. Wasting Allen's prime years here. 

 

I still think Peyton would be doing well as the Bills head coach. I think he would have the Bills win  loss record of 3-2 or better? Denver is a bad football team unlike Buffalo. So your comparison really isn't valid. 

 

I mean right now the Bills are 3-2 and second in the division. I think that's not what fans expected. 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

Ben Johnson the current OC from Detroit. 

 

I'd even consider Dion Sanders. Can you imagine the buzz? The guy is a winner. 

 

Who just lost to Stanford.

[eball]

12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Who just lost to Stanford.

 

After blowing a 29-0 halftime lead.

 

[newcam2012]

18 hours ago, chongli said:

Some guy who is a Bills fan posted this a few days ago. This better not be true this year.

 

 

Rinse and repeat. 

 

I was watching TV and one of the football analyst congratulated the Bills for being the September super bowl champs. 

Edited October 14, 2023 by newcam2012

[What a Tuel]

8 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

You have Josh Allen as your QB. That alone almost puts your team in the playoffs. 

 

The risks of getting a new innovative offensive minded coach isn't as risky as a lot of people think. 

 

The status quo isn't getting it done. Wasting Allen's prime years here. 

 

I still think Peyton would be doing well as the Bills head coach. I think he would have the Bills win  loss record of 3-2 or better? Denver is a bad football team unlike Buffalo. So your comparison really isn't valid. 

 

I mean right now the Bills are 3-2 and second in the division. I think that's not what fans expected. 

 

You think 3-2 is on McDermott? Even if we gave you the Jaguars, it certainly wasn't McDermott that turned the ball over 4 times against the Jets.

 

Commanders and Raiders score combined 13 points but Josh Allen won those games carrying the team on his back 😂 

 

Dolphins are averaging 36 points (28 if you want to remove the 70 pt anomaly) a game and have been the most explosive offense in the NFL, but the Bills defense held them to 20. All Josh Allen.

 

But yeah, Sean Payton and his stellar offensive genius at 1-5 is the solution to the Bills woes 😂.

 

My goodness some of you are delusional. Talk about grass is always greener but you want to trade our lawn for a desert.

 

[Bob Jones]

10 hours ago, eball said:

 

After blowing a 29-0 halftime lead.

 

Just looked at the box score for that game (Stanford vs Colorado). Colorado had 17 penalties to Stanford's 7! I didn’t see the game, but WTF, Over?!

[eball]

32 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

Just looked at the box score for that game (Stanford vs Colorado). Colorado had 17 penalties to Stanford's 7! I didn’t see the game, but WTF, Over?!

 

Penalties are always a lame excuse.  They gave up a 97-yard TD pass.  I like what Deion brings to college football but his team is clearly undisciplined.

 

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, What a Tuel said:

 

You think 3-2 is on McDermott? Even if we gave you the Jaguars, it certainly wasn't McDermott that turned the ball over 4 times against the Jets.

 

Commanders and Raiders score combined 13 points but Josh Allen won those games carrying the team on his back 😂 

 

Dolphins are averaging 36 points (28 if you want to remove the 70 pt anomaly) a game and have been the most explosive offense in the NFL, but the Bills defense held them to 20. All Josh Allen.

 

But yeah, Sean Payton and his stellar offensive genius at 1-5 is the solution to the Bills woes 😂.

 

My goodness some of you are delusional. Talk about grass is always greener but you want to trade our lawn for a desert.

 

I didn't say Peyton was the answer. I sure wouldn't have minded taking a shot with him. However, the cost was prohibitive. The idea of being on a creative offensive mind is really the point. A Ben Johnson or  prototype is what I was and am advocating for. 

 

You can't compare the failed results of a bad Denver team with the likely results of very good Buffalo team. They just don't equate. 

 

Talk about taking what I'm saying out of context. 

[Don Otreply]

I think the OP is confusing Sean’s heated leather seats in his car with something else…

[WyoAZBillfan]

16 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Ben Johnson the current OC from Detroit. 

 

I'd even consider Dion Sanders. Can you imagine the buzz? The guy is a winner. 

Ben would/could be really good. Just not a guarantee might flame out, might do like the Rams HC.
I’d hard pass on Dion, just a personal thing there really. 

[What a Tuel]

5 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I didn't say Peyton was the answer. I sure wouldn't have minded taking a shot with him. However, the cost was prohibitive. The idea of being on a creative offensive mind is really the point. A Ben Johnson or  prototype is what I was and am advocating for. 

 

You can't compare the failed results of a bad Denver team with the likely results of very good Buffalo team. They just don't equate. 

 

Talk about taking what I'm saying out of context. 

 

How is it out of context, you are literally saying Sean Payton would do better than McDermott with this Bills team. Better than what McDermott is doing, is practically Super Bowl if not AFC Championship. How is that not "the answer"?

 

Also creative offensive mind? Its not like they are scoring loads of points and their defense is the issue. Its both. The guy made the playoffs 60% of the time when he had Drew Brees at QB.

 

I have not seen anything out of the Denver offense this year that makes me think "damn, if Josh Allen had that, we'd be so good on offense".

 

At this point both HC's that a lot of the McDermott haters have been pushing for have been bombing out. 1-5 Sean Payton. 1-4 Brian Daboll. Sure, blame it on the teams if you want though. Coaches you like get to blame the team for their failures. Coaches you don't like get blamed for minimal losses, and no credit for winning.

Edited October 15, 2023 by What a Tuel

[newcam2012]

2 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

How is it out of context, you are literally saying Sean Payton would do better than McDermott with this Bills team. Better than what McDermott is doing, is practically Super Bowl if not AFC Championship. How is that not "the answer"?

 

Also creative offensive mind? Its not like they are scoring loads of points and their defense is the issue. Its both. The guy made the playoffs 60% of the time when he had Drew Brees at QB.

 

I have not seen anything out of the Denver offense this year that makes me think "damn, if Josh Allen had that, we'd be so good on offense".

 

At this point both HC's that a lot of the McDermott haters have been pushing for have been bombing out. 1-5 Sean Payton. 1-4 Brian Daboll. Sure, blame it on the teams if you want though. Coaches you like get to blame the team for their failures. Coaches you don't like get blamed for minimal losses, and no credit for winning.

I gave McD a lot of flowers for the Miami win. Ditto to Dorsey too.

 

I will give positives when someone does their job well. 

 

I'm basically saying I have serious doubts about if McD is the coach to lead this team to a SB. I know many disagree and I'm fine with that.

 

The Peyton to Buffalo point is mute. You seem to be ramming the Peyton point down my throat. Truthfully, I'd have more faith that Peyton could lead the Bills to a SB over McD. The Denver ordeal is really a ridiculous point. Peyton has one ring under his belt and he's an offensive minded coach. I would prefer him calling plays over Dorsey. Him working with Allen. Who knows what the results would be? 

 

I would prefer Ben Johnson as well. 

[Boatdrinks]

The fact is, McDermott isn’t going anywhere until Pegula says so. That probably means missing the playoffs or several one and done’s at a minimum. Hoping for that to happen must be a weird neighborhood to live in as a Bills fan. 

[Richard Noggin]

2 hours ago, WyoAZBillfan said:

Ben would/could be really good. Just not a guarantee might flame out, might do like the Rams HC.
I’d hard pass on Dion, just a personal thing there really. 

 

Hypothetically, Ben Johnson is one of the only guys right now I'd be excited about. Seems to me he's probably destined for Cleveland or Minnesota or Chicago. Maybe Cincinnati? The Jets and Giants as longshots? 

 

[uticaclub]

6 hours ago, eball said:

 

Penalties are always a lame excuse.  They gave up a 97-yard TD pass.  I like what Deion brings to college football but his team is clearly undisciplined.

 

Penalties are not a lame excuse, they dicate the pace of the game and extend drives. Without Penalties the Patriots and Bills would have the same amount of Super Bowl wins

[PBF81]

10 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

The fact is, McDermott isn’t going anywhere until Pegula says so. That probably means missing the playoffs or several one and done’s at a minimum. Hoping for that to happen must be a weird neighborhood to live in as a Bills fan. 

 

What happens in the playoffs this year is going to drastically shape the narrative on McD.  

 

The regular season isn't going to matter.  If we go 10-7 and get a wild-card but at least go to the Super Bowl, great.  Same if we go 13-4.  

 

KC's not as good this season.  There's not one other team except for maybe Miami that we should lose to in the playoffs.  And Miami does not hat the defensive talent that we have.  Either way, we own them and should be able to outscore them anytime we play them.  

 

If the D collapses again in the playoffs, McD's not going to weather that well.  

 

And there's still a dozen regular season games and some playoff games left for him to blunder some coaching decisions.  

 

 

[Richard Noggin]

53 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I would prefer Ben Johnson as well. 

 

The only name I see as a "potential" upgrade, given that McD's defense was effing HUMMING before being decimated by injuries, and no offensive coordinators (outside of Johnson) seem to be consistently lighting it up and staying ahead of NFL defenses (without deferring to their offensive HC).