Roger Goodell said today's game was an experiment??

[Chaos]

I am wondering if they could make this experiment more interesting, but having the Bills play the chiefs in Arrowhead this thursday, just to see if f'ing the Bills over one week can then help the chiefs the following week. 

[Success]

The more I think about this, the more outrageous it is.

 

There are jobs on the line in many of these games.  GM's and coaches obsessively try to build rosters to win as many games as possible, and this isn't the NBA or NHL - there are a small # of games in an NFL season to try to make the playoffs, and get a good position in the playoffs.

 

And they decide to "experiment" to see what happens in this one?  

 

Unacceptable.

 

[atlbillsfan1975]

How does fatigue present in a game? Sloppy play, for example, penalties and mental mistakes like dropped passes, holdings, etc… 

What else happens when players are fatigued? Injuries. Terrible look for the league and Goodell. 
Oh and way to rob everyone of a great matchup by having teams play over there…can we just stop with this international bs? If I want to see a Premier League match, I have to hop on a plane and fly across the pond, same should be true for them to come see football. You just proved you will never have a team over there. Owners won’t risk it. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by atlbillsfan1975

[Chaos]

5 minutes ago, Success said:

The more I think about this, the more outrageous it is.

 

There are jobs on the line in many of these games.  GM's and coaches obsessively try to build rosters to win as many games as possible, and this isn't the NBA or NHL - there are a small # of games in an NFL season to try to make the playoffs, and get a good position in the playoffs.

 

And they decide to "experiment" to see what happens in this one?  

 

Unacceptable.

 

It really is a scandal. It really calls for an independent investigation from outside the league. 

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

It really is a scandal. It really calls for an independent investigation from outside the league. 

Im sure that will happen

[LABILLBACKER]

6 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

How does fatigue present in a game? Sloppy play, for example, penalties and mental mistakes like dropped passes, holdings, etc… 

What else happens when players are fatigued? Injuries. Terrible look for the league and Goodell. 
Oh and way to rob everyone of a great matchup by having teams play over there…can we just stop with this international bs? If I want to see a Premier League match, I have to hop on a plane and fly across the pond, same should be true for them to come see football. You just proved you will never have a team over there. Owners won’t risk it. 

F  Roger Goodell....this pos would never dream of sending overseas one of the elite nfl darlings. He might as well tag us with an L as soon as the schedule came out.

[Might Rather]

On 10/8/2023 at 4:26 PM, stevestojan said:

This is all about Milano. And how Beane needs to be on the phones dealing whatever he needs to get a guy in here. 

Milano is a unicorn...they don't fall out of no where and can't just be replaced. 

[major]

On 10/8/2023 at 3:23 PM, Augie said:

 

I recommend one thousand comp picks for participating in your little “experiment’!!! 

Roger likes all kinds of experiments: covering up spygate, deflate gate, and most importantly, CTE. 
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

If I could erase any game from my memory it would be this one. From the injuries to the crap calls to the overall atmosphere. It all sucked. I can’t wait to be back in Orchard Park again. 

[BuffaloRebound]

The NFL schedule is an unbalanced mess.  Unequal amount of home games, Thursday games creating large discrepancies in rest days, London games, not to mention the huge disparities in strength of schedule.  Pro athletes are creatures of habit.  When you’re playing at different times with different number of rest days almost every week, it’s gotta take a toll.  I don’t think it’s coincidence that our injuries have sky-rocketed since we’ve become prime time darlings and majority of our games aren’t on sunday afternoons anymore.  

[Augie]

I think it would have been FAR more fair to have us play a home game in Jacksonville. THAT is how stupid this #@%^ was. 

 

Think about that. 

[muppy]

9 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

If I could erase any game from my memory it would be this one. From the injuries to the crap calls to the overall atmosphere. It all sucked. I can’t wait to be back in Orchard Park again. 

Hey I'm just curious what about the atmosphere there sucked so hard for you in London. The injuries and crap calls are a given. What else didn't you care for? 

[muppy]

13 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

How does fatigue present in a game? Sloppy play, for example, penalties and mental mistakes like dropped passes, holdings, etc… 

What else happens when players are fatigued? Injuries. Terrible look for the league and Goodell. 
Oh and way to rob everyone of a great matchup by having teams play over there…can we just stop with this international bs? If I want to see a Premier League match, I have to hop on a plane and fly across the pond, same should be true for them to come see football. You just proved you will never have a team over there. Owners won’t risk it. 

well you know what would solve that problem right? If people refuse to buy tickets to watch or travel to these games.  Should the owners refuse to allow their teams to travel under the circumstances the Bills just had. Absolutely (in retrospect) .  But will they lose money doing so? The owners and their greed for money will make those calls moving forward. 

 

For me this game was a case of I didn't realize how much jet lag would affect the players. I imagined a long rest in a comfy flight across the pond. Play the game and get out of dodge easy peasy.

 

**Blech*** I was wrong

 

what you wrote in red reads 100% logical and spot on mate.

 

m

[Augie]

9 minutes ago, muppy said:

well you know what would solve that problem right? If people refuse to buy tickets to watch or travel to these games.  Should the owners refuse to allow their teams to travel under the circumstances the Bills just had. Absolutely (in retrospect) .  But will they lose money doing so? The owners and their greed for money will make those calls moving forward. 

 

For me this game was a case of I didn't realize how much jet lag would affect the players. I imagined a long rest in a comfy flight across the pond. Play the game and get out of dodge easy peasy.

 

**Blech*** I was wrong

 

what you wrote in red reads 100% logical and spot on mate.

 

m

 

But what is bolded in black I am skeptical of. 

[muppy]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

But what is bolded in black I am skeptical of. 

yep me too if I am to be honest.

[Augie]

30 minutes ago, muppy said:

yep me too if I am to be honest.

 

The owners got me this time. But it is a short sighted victory, because the inequity of the entire situation is a huge black mark against the league in my book. The actual game day experience was nice, but only if you can ignore how inherently unfair it was. I don’t want to just ignore that glaring issue of putting money over the game in such an obvious way. 

 

I came away with a London experience I enjoyed, and a far lesser opinion of the NFL.  That is MY bottom line. I’ll carry this with me for a long time. 

 

 

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Edited October 10, 2023 by Augie

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 hour ago, muppy said:

Hey I'm just curious what about the atmosphere there sucked so hard for you in London. The injuries and crap calls are a given. What else didn't you care for? 

The humidity

[Bob in STL]

On 10/8/2023 at 3:26 PM, Dr.Sack said:

The Patriots own two jets. But Pegula can’t fix up one old Concorde to cut the flight time? Pegula is cheap. 

It is not the flight time. It the effect that the 5 time zone changes has on you body and on your eating and sleeping habits. 
 

The Bills should have left Buffalo on Tuesday, after the Monday off day for the players to recover.   It takes several days to acclimate to the time change. It would be better to practice while acclimating to the change then to play a game when your feeling like crap. 
 

Any businessman who travels to the uk knows this. 

[Dan]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

I think it would have been FAR more fair to have us play a home game in Jacksonville. THAT is how stupid this #@%^ was. 

 

Think about that. 

The fact that this was a Bills home game may be the most puzzling.   The Jags play in London every year, this was their second game in a row there.  If anyone has a “home field” in England it’s them.  
 

How/why would you schedule a scenario like this and call the team that travels the home team - thereby removing one of their actual home games from their schedule??

 

It literally is the same thing as the Bills traveling to Jax to play them, but calling it a Bills home game because well…You wanted to take  a home game from one team and give it to another.   It’s just crazy to think they did this and didn’t realize how stupid it is. 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Bob in STL said:

It is not the flight time. It the effect that the 5 time zone changes has on you body and on your eating and sleeping habits. 
 

The Bills should have left Buffalo on Tuesday, after the Monday off day for the players to recover.   It takes several days to acclimate to the time change. It would be better to practice while acclimating to the change then to play a game when your feeling like crap. 
 

Any businessman who travels to the uk knows this. 

when Boom gets up and going i expect them to be shuttling these teams back and forth. specs call for 60-80 passengers per plane