Why does Dorsey play 'scared' as soon as there is a decent pass rush?

[Hebert19]

Jets gameplan was *****.   This gameplan was *****.  It's like he's so afraid of pressure we don't let Josh play. 

[CincyBillsFan]

Dorsey should have recognized after the FIRST series that the JAGS were not going to let us run the ball or hit those short rhythm passes.  Before the end of the 1st quarter he should have unleashed Allen and the downfield passing attack.

 

 

[Johnnycage46]

Because he sucks

[DuckyBoys]

unable to adjust to what the other team is doing once the game begins  You go to put your guys in good situations and shotgun draw runs and short curl routes aint it

[Big Blitz]

How can you do all that you did to Miami and then this for 80% of the game?

 

They weren’t prepared.  Period. 
 

That’s on the coaches.  
 

Can’t blame the D at all tho.  Just devastating what’s happening there.  

[Bangarang]

Dorsey is a problem. Completely inexcusable that a healthy offense played that poorly for most of the game.

[Hebert19]

I swear he did this last year too.  Good defensive line and he panics.  Let Josh be josh. 

[BananaB]

Dorsey can’t adjust, he just becomes more predictable whenever the Bills get behind. 

[Yobogoya!]

11 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Dorsey can’t adjust, he just becomes more predictable whenever the Bills get behind. 

He can adjust… for about one play. See: the play action bomb to Diggs to start that drive from our own 5 yard line.

Then he goes right back to the same plays that failed three times in a row previously, and what happens? Yeah they fail three times in a row again. 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Dorsey should have recognized after the FIRST series that the JAGS were not going to let us run the ball or hit those short rhythm passes.  Before the end of the 1st quarter he should have unleashed Allen and the downfield passing attack.

 

 

 

He should have recongised they were in a ton of man and ran some man beating concepts. He was still running our dink and dunk vs zone offense.

[BananaB]

2 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

He can adjust… for about one play. See: the play action bomb to Diggs to start that drive from our own 5 yard line.

Then he goes right back to the same plays that failed three times in a row previously, and what happens? Yeah they fail three times in a row again. 

One play is not adjusting. 

[Jerome007]

1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Dorsey should have recognized after the FIRST series that the JAGS were not going to let us run the ball or hit those short rhythm passes.  Before the end of the 1st quarter he should have unleashed Allen and the downfield passing attack.

Yep. He has devised some seriously great game plans and plays, but adjusting during the game isn't his strength. Hopefully he learns. Bills have adjusted well many times after half time. This time it was just meh. 

[Roundybout]

Because he sucks and folds like a lawn chair the minute he faces a decent defense.

[LABILLBACKER]

13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He should have recongised they were in a ton of man and ran some man beating concepts. He was still running our dink and dunk vs zone offense.

Problem with KD is it takes him half a game to recognize this.  By then it's too late.  

[sven233]

I just don't understand Dorsey.  The last few games, the offense has been evolving.  They were finding things that work well and have been scoring a ton of points because of it.  He's been totally fine until today to be honest.....not perfect, but fine. 

 

Today, it's like he looked at everything that has been working well and decided to do the opposite.  Having Allen under center has been nothing short of amazing this season.  He is the best in the league by far under center and utilizing play action.  Today, while I don't have the numbers in front of me, it felt like he was in the gun at least 80% of the time.  And when they did go play action from under center, that's when a lot of the bigger play happened. 

 

Until he figures out that he needs Allen under center at least 40% of the time, I don't think the offense will be what we all hope it can be.  And his idea of what to do in 12 personnel is so basic.  Not having any idea what to do with and how to use Kincaid down the field is baffling. 

[Fallser]

1 hour ago, DuckyBoys said:

unable to adjust to what the other team is doing once the game begins  You go to put your guys in good situations and shotgun draw runs and short curl routes aint it

Every Team knows when we do the shotgun draw. We might as well put up a neon light when the we run the play, everyone on the ***** planet knows we're running that crap play. And the worst part is, it never seems to work! I'm not motivated to come through the success rate of that play but it never seems to be a positive play...

[JMM]

I tend to agree about Dorsey. The mark of a quality OC is making adjustments when the D is stopping your gameplan. The Bills again looked like they had no answers at times. Didn't help that Oline was poor today, especially the guards, which has been a strength 

[Hebert19]

3 hours ago, BananaB said:

Dorsey can’t adjust, he just becomes more predictable whenever the Bills get behind. 

This.  He needs to be better.  Stop being afraid of what can happen. 

[pigpen65]

Dorsey is a QB coach, he's not an OC. Maybe someday he will be, but today he's not. OC's need to be able to gameplan and scheme and adapt. Dorsey does none of those. Teams know what the Bills are going to do before the game. And the ones with good enough talent on defense to match up have been stuffing them. And Dorsey is helpless when it happens

Edited October 8, 2023 by pigpen65

[billsfan89]

Optimistically he has not had to respond to a situation where teams are “allowing” deeper shots. Usually teams cap the deep stuff and dare Josh to dink and dunk. This time the Jags trusted their pass rush and dared Josh to go deep. 
 

Dorsey will hopefully learn from this and take the deep shots when they are there