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28 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

And you again show how to be classless, one murders children, one hurt your feelings. Making that comparison, even flippantly, is really pathetic.

But both Hamas and MAGA hate fair elections. MAGA wanted dictatorship like Hamas

 

That's just the truth 

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20 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'll wager you won't find a single Hamas supporter among the MAGA "cult" but you sure can find lots of them in liberal enclaves like universities and think tanks.  Many lib's are more than sympathetic to the terrorists even though they'd surely slaughter them as quickly as any Trump "supporter".  They're nothing short of delusional, and simply stupid.  When those sleeper cells get activated and the scum bags blow up some campus buildings somewhere they might wise up, but I doubt it. 

 

Like I said, it's amazing what the Dem puppet masters can get their drones to accept.  Hamas is a group of subhuman monsters who, if they were in the US (considering they truly hate women, LGBTQ+ and Jews) would be vilified by libs and thought to be accosting people on hiking trails.

 

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

But both Hamas and MAGA hate fair elections. MAGA wanted dictatorship like Hamas

 

That's just the truth 

 

So do Dems.  They're just better at cheating at them...

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Like I said, it's amazing what the Dem puppet masters can get their drones to accept.  Hamas is a group of subhuman monsters who, if they were in the US (considering they truly hate women, LGBTQ+ and Jews) would be vilified by libs and thought to be accosting people on hiking trails.

 

 

So do Dems.  They're just better at cheating at them...

Not true

 

Oh ya, good point, though, Hamas and MAGA both hate the truth 

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A senior U.S. defense official, speaking on the condition of anonymity under ground rules set by the Pentagon, said Thursday that the Biden administration does not plan to put additional U.S. forces on the ground in Israel “at this time” — but did not rule out that deployments could occur if the conflict widens. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in a statement Saturday that he was deploying the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean, joining the USS Gerald R. Ford carrier group in a rare concentration of U.S. military power.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/10/15/israel-gaza-urban-warfare-bloodbath/

 

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Russian President Vladimir Putin is scheduled to hold phone calls with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas on Monday, Russia’s presidential adviser Yury Ushakov said.

Last week, Russia said it was “extremely concerned” about the Israel-Gaza war but stopped short of condemning Hamas. Instead, Putin blamed Western foreign policy, accusing the United States in particular of having “neglected the mechanisms of settlement in the Middle East.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/16/israel-war-news-hamas-gaza-palestine/

 

Putin hasn't condemned Hamas! There ya go @Orlando Tim

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20 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Iran huh.

 

 

Iran's Foreign Ministry claimed Monday that Hamas was ready to release its hostages

if Israel ceases its airstrikes along the Gaza Strip

— as the number known to have been taken by the terrorist group rose to at least 199.

 

https://nypost.com/2023/10/16/iran-says-hamas-will-free-hostages-if-air-strikes-end/

 

Yeah, I saw that earlier.  Too little too late.  But get Hezbully involved, Iran.  See how that goes.

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Now it's 199. I'd hate to be the one making the decision on what to do. Invasion means they die, but you have to do something. 

 

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4258041-israel-199-people-held-hostage-in-gaza/

The Israeli military said Monday that 199 people are being held hostage in Gaza by Hamas and other Palestinian militants, an increase from previous estimates. 

Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces, told reporters the families of those being held hostage have been notified, The Associated Press reported. He did not say whether the latest number includes foreigners or who was responsible, but most are believed to be held by Hamas — the militant group that infiltrated southern Israel more than a week ago.

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FTA:

 

We must not forget this when we hear “reasonable” people at the UN, The New York Times or the US State Department urge Israel not to go too far in its attempt to eradicate Hamas, or when they condemn the country — as is inevitable — for having done so.

 

Such judgments pose as clarity, but are in fact moral and intellectual obfuscation. They can only encourage antisemites everywhere, and give Hezbollah and other agents of Iran’s theological tyranny a pretext for opening up more fronts in their effort to effect a Final Solution: to finish, once and for all, the work of the Holocaust.

 

Indeed, Hamas and its Islamist allies are counting on exactly this. They have set a trap for Israel, baited by their Evil. They want the IDF to grind Gaza to a pulp. They hope that publicizing images of suffering in Gaza (including fake ones, if past performance is any indication) will stimulate world outcry and justify a wider war — one that Israel may not be able to win. This violence might seem to be “useful”, but if so, it is useful only in the cause of Evil.

 

If we are to speak of Evil at all — and now is no time for decent people to be silent — we cannot rely on ordinary frameworks of evaluation.

 

The only language that can hope to do justice to Evil is theological. Perhaps all that can be said of Hamas and the worldwide gang of Islamists is that their crimes and plans are Satanic: absolutely and completely demonic.

 

https://unherd.com/2023/10/do-israels-critics-understand-evil/

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The Gaza Metro: Why Israel needs to enter Gaza to achieve real victory

JOHN SEXTON 

 

 

Given Israel’s ability to do all of this from the air, why would they order civilians to leave northern Gaza and then enter for a ground assault?

 

The answer is tunnels. Hamas has constructed miles of reinforced tunnels beneath Gaza where its soldiers can hide and where it can hide weapons. The extent of this tunnel network, known as the Gaza subway, may add up to hundreds of miles.

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…there exists a second underground network that the Israel Defense Forces colloquially refer to as the “Gaza metro.” It’s a vast labyrinth of tunnels, by some accounts several kilometers underground, used to transport people and goods; to store rockets and ammunition caches; and house Hamas command and control centers, all away from the prying eyes of the IDF’s aircraft and surveillance drones.

Hamas in 2021 claimed to have built 500 kilometers (311 miles) worth of tunnels under Gaza, though it is unclear if that figure was accurate or posturing. If true, Hamas’ underground tunnels would be a little less than half the length of the New York City subway system.

 

 

 

Airstrikes may have taken out Hamas’ above-ground offices but the bulk of their infrastructure is deep underground, beneath the civilian population of Gaza city. In order to put an end to Hamas, which Israel says is the goal of its response this time, it is going to have to send people in to identify and destroy these tunnels.

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/10/16/the-gaza-metro-why-israel-needs-to-enter-gaza-to-achieve-real-victory-n585172

 

 

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

The Gaza Metro: Why Israel needs to enter Gaza to achieve real victory

JOHN SEXTON 

 

 

Given Israel’s ability to do all of this from the air, why would they order civilians to leave northern Gaza and then enter for a ground assault?

 

The answer is tunnels. Hamas has constructed miles of reinforced tunnels beneath Gaza where its soldiers can hide and where it can hide weapons. The extent of this tunnel network, known as the Gaza subway, may add up to hundreds of miles.

 

Airstrikes may have taken out Hamas’ above-ground offices but the bulk of their infrastructure is deep underground, beneath the civilian population of Gaza city. In order to put an end to Hamas, which Israel says is the goal of its response this time, it is going to have to send people in to identify and destroy these tunnels.

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/10/16/the-gaza-metro-why-israel-needs-to-enter-gaza-to-achieve-real-victory-n585172

 

 

 

 

 

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 hopefully they have some kind of seismic device, Underground radar imaging, or satellite imagery that can help identify those death traps.

 

 

 

 

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