BillStime Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:22 PM, Westside said: Says the guy or trans or woman who voted for joke bribem knowing he is a compulsive liar and a criminal. Touché billslime. Expand CC: @Tenhigh
Justice Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:28 PM, SUNY_amherst said: I heard about the Egypt warning but the thing is, Israel is a dangerous place, a Jewish majority country in the Middle East, they probably get warnings all the time. Like possibly every week, certainly every holiday. Life has to go on, they can't respond to every warning Expand Agreed but to the extent this was ignored? I’ve been there. I know the lay of the land by the border walls. They used drones, they have satellites, they have motion detectors and if all else fails they have bunkers manned with armed personnel with their eyes on the walls at all times. 1
Justice Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:30 PM, Doc said: It sounded like "something is going to happen" which is about as non-descript a warning as you can give. And Israel wasn't in on this. They've been trying to work with Hamas as best as they can and then they pulled this. Now Hezbollah is going to get involved. It's been a long time coming and it's going to be bad horrible. Expand Then why lie about the warnings?
Doc Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) On 10/13/2023 at 2:33 PM, Justice said: Then why lie about the warnings? Expand If there is no real intel about when, where and how, it's not really a warning. Now if they were told all that and they ignored it, that's different. Edited October 13, 2023 by Doc 1
BillStime Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:30 PM, Doc said: Now Hezbollah is going to get involved. Expand 👆 - the leader of the American Taliban
Justice Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:35 PM, Doc said: Now if they were told all that and they ignored it, that's a major error. Expand Once again why lie?
Doc Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:35 PM, Justice said: Once again why lie? Expand If Egypt didn't tell them when, where and how it was going to happen, they didn't lie about it. Again "something is going to happen" isn't a real warning for a place like Israel.
sherpa Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) The above conspiracy theory regarding Netanyahu is simply crazy. Shin Bet, which is their domestic intel operation and responsible for the Gaza border has done what all western countries have done, which is rely more and more on electronic surveillance. These "warnings" occur all the time across all services. They screwed it up because they underestimated Hamas, thought that there new jobs program would pull the Palestinians away from Hamas, and didn't give proper attention to things that they obviously saw, like these stupid para things. Edited October 13, 2023 by sherpa 1 1
BillStime Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:34 PM, Doc said: If there is no real intel about when, where and how, it's not really a warning. Expand An Egyptian intelligence official told the Associated Press news agency this week that Cairo had repeatedly warned the Israelis "something big" was being planned from Gaza."We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. But they underestimated such warnings," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Yes, "Doc" - we know - when it comes to you MAGA nutters - EVERYONE IS LYING. 1
Justice Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:37 PM, Doc said: If Egypt didn't tell them when, where and how it was going to happen, they didn't lie about it. Again "something is going to happen" isn't a real warning for a place like Israel. Expand Wow. I see what I’m dealing with here. Gotcha. They were warned and the Israelis lied about being warned. Period. Doesn’t matter if they had details or not. And we’re supposed to believe Egypt has better intelligence than Israel? lol. Come on. 1
Doc Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:39 PM, Justice said: Wow. I see what I’m dealing with here. Gotcha. They were warned and the Israelis lied about being warned. Period. Doesn’t matter if they had details or not. And we’re supposed to believe Egypt has better intelligence than Israel? lol. Come on. Expand Right back at you. You're the one claiming Israel is in bed with Hamas. 1
Justice Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:37 PM, sherpa said: The above conspiracy theory regarding Netanyahu is simply crazy. Shin Bet, which is their domestic intel operation and responsible for the Gaza border has done what all western countries have done, which is rely more and more on electronic surveillance. These "warnings" occur all the time across all services. They screwed it up because they underestimated Hamas, thought that there new jobs program would pull the Palestinians away from Hamas, and didn't give proper attention to things that they obviously saw, like these stupid para things. Expand You don’t have to take my word for it. Just listen to the former Israeli soldiers that said this is impossible. It’s all over the internet. On 10/13/2023 at 2:40 PM, Doc said: Right back at you. You're the one claiming Israel is in bed with Hamas. Expand Olmert said Netanyahu ‘gave hundreds of millions of dollars’ to Hamas.
Tenhigh Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:21 PM, BillStime said: It's exactly what he did... sorry you can't find common ground there. You claim not to have voted for Conald but you certainly get triggered anytime someone pisses all over him. Expand BOO!!! 3
The Frankish Reich Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 1:13 PM, Justice said: Allow me to begin by saying Hamas is evil. They’re barbaric and despicable. What they’ve done is inexcusable. Occupied or not you don’t do these things to innocent people or any people for that matter. Having said that I can’t but help but to think this was all planned by both Hamas and Israel. They’re together in this. Are we just gonna pretend like Netanyahu wasn’t funding Hamas? And we’re gonna act like it’s ok that Netanyahu lied about being warned about an incoming attack? And that 1,000 to 2,000 terrorist militants freely got passed one of the most secured borders in the world with little to no opposition for up to 6 hours in some areas? So much so that Hamas knew they had time to rape and pillage? We’re supposed to believe the iron dome system suddenly failed to the extent that it did on the 6th? On the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur war? We’re supposed to believe all that? That’s a whole lot of leeway to be giving someone. And now there’s this… ‘Israeli intelligence the night before the Hamas attack picked up signs of irregular activity among Hamas operatives in Gaza but top IDF and Shin Bet leaders decided not to put military forces on the borders of the enclave on high alert’ ‘Now’s not the time for us to figure out why and how our intelligence let us down’, huh? It absolutely is the time. Don’t shoot first and ask questions later! It’ll be too late by then. All these issues above need to be investigated. But hey… Hamas has a charter! It’s amazing to me how some of you guys just sweep all of these things under the rug nonchalantly. We as a society are lost. It’s been a minute since I been here and since then we’ve been arguing over what’s a boy and what’s a girl, how many genders there are, what books we can and can’t read, whether we should get vaccinated or not, if the news is fake or not, school shootings and the 2nd amendment, inflation and the causes… all these issues and you’re worried about Israel? Lol. Unreal. Israel will be just fine. It’s time we take care of our own issues. I hope they wipe out Hamas. I really do. All they have to do is stop paying them. At the bare minimum this is a land grab. At the worst this is the opening stages of WW3. All this can easily be avoided if we just minded our own business. We have enough problems of our own. Expand Welcome to 2023, in which everything bad that happens must be explained by a wacko conspiracy theory. 1
Pabstblueribbon Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:25 PM, Justice said: It was all over the place yesterday. It’s somewhere in this thread too. I get that. I understand what you’re saying but the issue I have is their initial inclination was to lie about it. Now THAT I can’t understand. That’s smells bad to me. Expand Thanks for the reply, and I don't discount your skepticism. 2
Tenhigh Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:31 PM, BillStime said: CC: @Tenhigh Expand @Westside what is the need for the trans nonsense? It's counterproductive to the discussion. Billsy, I have no issue with telling people of any race creed or color to stop being asshats. Now that you see I can tell people on "my side" to knock off the insults, can you knock them off yourself? 1 1
Justice Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:50 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Welcome to 2023, in which everything bad that happens must be explained by a wacko conspiracy theory. Expand These are all facts that I see you haven’t addressed. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m right. But these topics need to be addressed. I don’t let the msm do the thinking for me. I believe very little of what I hear. My conclusion can be wrong but the things I spoke about are all true.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:41 PM, Justice said: You don’t have to take my word for it. Just listen to the former Israeli soldiers that said this is impossible. It’s all over the internet. Olmert said Netanyahu ‘gave hundreds of millions of dollars’ to Hamas. Expand As seen above money was coming in everywhere in hopes of stabilizing. I’ve since understood Hamas was taking all the foreign aid and using it to build their war machine, tunnels, bases etc effectively stealing from whom the aid meant to help. I heard even of examples like pipes provided for water infrastructure being repurposed to build rockets. I cant believe Israel knew this was coming and ignored it much less conspired with hamas for this to happen. WTF would be their common interest? Every time something like this happens, 87 warning signs are found retroactively and people gloss over the likely 600 false alarms that have been reacted to previously that desensitize everyone to real threats. 1 1
BillStime Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 2:50 PM, Tenhigh said: BOO!!! Expand Your Halloween costume this year?
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