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8 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

1) You "evidence" was a poll. Do you really want to stand behind a poll? Especially one taken in a place that has no freedom of speech? yes or no? 

 

2) Secondly you are just putting words in my mouth. It also doesn't make sense, you are saying I agree with your poll,  I don't. 

 

I'm saying literally starving a population out is not going to work in Israel's long term interest. They lose the moral high ground, perhaps their greatest strength. If they kill 100,000 to avenge 1,500, that will cause blow back. Israel has already killed more than Hamas has, if the statistics are right. 

 

I hope Israel is just bluffing, hoping that being tough, building up for invasion, is all to get Hamas to turn over the hostages. I get no one is in the mood to talk now, but sooner or later if the hostages are to be released and peace restored, talks will have to happen 

 

A full invasion is going to be a real mess. Might work and might not. 

 

 

You can’t bargain with rabid dogs. 

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This is sad to see.. and she’s correct. 
 

Most of these people aren’t protesting for innocent Palestinians.   You don’t decide, the day after Hamas, a terror organization (elected by the Palestinians) brutally murders, tortured and kidnaps Jews, simply for being Jews, that NOW is the time to stand up for Palestinians and the struggle of those living in Gaza.  
 

These are, for the most part, people who view Israel as imperialist colonizers and to them, the ends justify the means… and the “ends” is the eradication of Israel. 

 

Im done pretending like that’s not what’s happening at most of the pro-Palestine protests that started THE DAY AFTER Jews were brutally terrorized and children, grandmothers, babies are STILL held hostage.  
 

 

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1 hour ago, Doc said:
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Israel isn't going to just stop at getting the prisoners back.  Hamas signed its death warrant.

 

 

I'm not saying I disagree with the bolded. I think they should be sought out and exterminated like vermin. But my question is the logistics of accomplishing that. Wouldn't they be just like mice/vermin .....the one you see means 50 more hiding?

 

I just can't see how to extinguish a group like that. It's a serious question. Thoughts?

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Just now, John from Riverside said:

You’re all over the place with this
 

Donald Trump has spoken badly about his military

 

Joe Biden has not

Lol, you keep your head buried in the sand. You’re not as neutral as you think.

Just admit you’re a democrat. Stop lying about being independent. Nothing you post says you’re a independent.

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2 minutes ago, Westside said:

Lol, you keep your head buried in the sand. You’re not as neutral as you think.

Just admit you’re a democrat. Stop lying about being independent. Nothing you post says you’re a independent.

I’m speaking facts and you’re upset about it
 

Donald Trump trashes his military

 

Joe Biden does not

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On 10/11/2023 at 4:02 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Seriously who besides JFF RedHawks goes to libraries (who only goes to chat up old maid cat ladies interested in his stories about how not gay he is.) 

 

meanwhile these school library associations collude with terrible authors writing kiddie porn to buy their trash which otherwise would be bought by no-one. 


what are you talking about, you can’t learn unless you have taken out books from the school library? Are you serious???

 

I’ve got a couple post high school degrees… my learning was via text books, internet, ppts, classroom material, encyclopedias and so on. 
 

what’s the educational value of soft gay porn sprinkled into second rate fiction again  ? 


Hey @Tenhigh - start here?


 

 

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20 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

What exactly should I have said?

What was false?

 

Let's see:

 

1 hour ago, Tenhigh said:

I find your weird obsession with other people's sex lives (or lack thereof) who post on a message board about politics kind of fascinating. Why do you care? 

 

or

 

4 hours ago, Tenhigh said:

Ive seen this out of you a few times now. _________________________________

 

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On 9/29/2023 at 10:43 PM, Tenhigh said:

What was the purpose of calling someone you don't know an__________________

 

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On 9/15/2023 at 2:15 PM, Tenhigh said:

You feel good about yourself after posting this?

 

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On 9/27/2023 at 1:48 PM, Tenhigh said:

Classy, _____. You should be proud.

 

Try it.

 

Prove you're not a hack.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

1) You "evidence" was a poll. Do you really want to stand behind a poll? Especially one taken in a place that has no freedom of speech? yes or no? 

 

2) Secondly you are just putting words in my mouth. It also doesn't make sense, you are saying I agree with your poll,  I don't. 

 

I'm saying literally starving a population out is not going to work in Israel's long term interest. They lose the moral high ground, perhaps their greatest strength. If they kill 100,000 to avenge 1,500, that will cause blow back. Israel has already killed more than Hamas has, if the statistics are right. 

 

I hope Israel is just bluffing, hoping that being tough, building up for invasion, is all to get Hamas to turn over the hostages. I get no one is in the mood to talk now, but sooner or later if the hostages are to be released and peace restored, talks will have to happen 

 

A full invasion is going to be a real mess. Might work and might not. 

 

 

Well, I actually provided two separate articles citing support for Hamas, but I suppose fair is fair.  I’ve said as much about polls in the past, and seen cases where polling data was manipulative or misleading.
 

It’s possible the polls are conspiratorial and misleading, that inside the collective soul of Gaza there is a massive, albeit silent, rejection of Hamas and its tactics, and a yearning for democracy, peace and brotherhood with their neighbors. 
 

At this point, there’s not much left to say other than like you, I hope the hostages are returned alive, unharmed or at least traumatized no more than they already have been.  With luck, that would stop the hostilities for now. 

 

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5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Well, I actually provided two separate articles citing support for Hamas, but I suppose fair is fair.  I’ve said as much about polls in the past, and seen cases where polling data was manipulative or misleading.
 

It’s possible the polls are conspiratorial and misleading, that inside the collective soul of Gaza there is a massive, albeit silent, rejection of Hamas and its tactics, and a yearning for democracy, peace and brotherhood with their neighbors. 
 

At this point, there’s not much left to say other than like you, I hope the hostages are returned alive, unharmed or at least traumatized no more than they already have been.  With luck, that would stop the hostilities for now. 

 


We saw videos of Palestinians spitting on bodies brought back to Gaza and cheering as Hamas returned with hostages.  
 

Also… why are so many Palestinian supporters around the globe so evil?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Let's see:

 

 

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Try it.

 

Prove you're not a hack.

 

 

What part of "we shouldn't care why he is so adamant that he loves women, wgaf?" didn't you read? This isn'tike your buddy calling people incels out I'd the blue, Red Hawk has been running around talking about how straight he is for quite some time.  Should 29 have given him a hard time about it? No. But he also didn't just flat out make something up. Get it?  Now when are you going to post something in the common ground  thread?

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29 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

With 29 giving RT Hawk a hard time about trying so hard to convince us he is super straight?  Agreed.  @Over 29 years of fanhood we shouldn't care why he is so adamant that he loves women, wgaf?


Yeah I don’t… I actually kind of like rt hawk. 

 

it was just such an odd pattern and the visceral reaction to the gayish but not gay. Who cares!! 
 

I hope he comes back 

As far as BillStime? Infantile trash not worth a second of your time. 
 

Grandma basement dwelling loser 

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Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


Yeah I don’t… I actually kind of like rt hawk. 

 

it was just such an odd pattern and the visceral reaction to the gayish but not gay. Who cares!! 
 

I hope he comes back 

I like the guy too, hope he comes back as well.  He seems like he has been on a bit of a spiral though.  Less interested in discussions and more about kicking conservative butt.  Hope he has a nice break and returns a little less manic. 

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20 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

I like the guy too, hope he comes back as well.  He seems like he has been on a bit of a spiral though.  Less interested in discussions and more about kicking conservative butt.  Hope he has a nice break and returns a little less manic. 

Yeah- volatile. Took something as sparing one week then hyper emotional another. Hope he’s ok and didn’t have something unground that

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