Westside Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 How can anyone on the left defend Palestine and hamas after watching this video. They are a evil that needs to be destroyed or there will never be peace in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Westside said: How can anyone on the left defend Palestine and hamas after watching this video. They are a evil that needs to be destroyed or there will never be peace in the world. I'm sure there are millions of people across the globe who wouldn't mind Palestine being blown off the face of the map. They just won't advertise about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 Let's all hope Biden and the warring parties can get this done. Peace in Middle East won't come quickly, but steps in the right direction are a good thing for those actually wanting peace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: So Biden, famous for adapting the tragic story of his son’s death to meet circumstances—and who traded an arms dealer for a lady who broke the laws of another country—is down with playing politics on hostages both alive and dead? I understand we disagree on many issues, and I’ve stayed out of this for the most part, but wtf is this all about? Broker the ceasefire. Squeeze Israel to return some prisoners who will ultimately rejoin the fight. But why on earth would he proposed this ghoulish plan? The only way this makes sense is in the scenario where the bodies are so defiled that he wants Israel out of Gaza to lessen the likelihood of response. Why would Israel accept it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 33 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: So Biden, famous for adapting the tragic story of his son’s death to meet circumstances—and who traded an arms dealer for a lady who broke the laws of another country—is down with playing politics on hostages both alive and dead? I understand we disagree on many issues, and I’ve stayed out of this for the most part, but wtf is this all about? Broker the ceasefire. Squeeze Israel to return some prisoners who will ultimately rejoin the fight. But why on earth would he proposed this ghoulish plan? The only way this makes sense is in the scenario where the bodies are so defiled that he wants Israel out of Gaza to lessen the likelihood of response. Why would Israel accept it? Peace has to start somewhere. Getting hostages back to their families. Can't believe you are criticizing getting a hostage back from Putin's gulag, wow. Yes, we sure see things differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 50 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Peace has to start somewhere. Getting hostages back to their families. Can't believe you are criticizing getting a hostage back from Putin's gulag, wow. Yes, we sure see things differently No Fuzzy Lumpkins, I wasn’t criticizing getting Brittney Grenier back, though I think JB was weak in that regard and Putin knew he could roll him. In fact, Hamas apparently knows how to roll him too. It is interesting how you see things when it’s Israeli men, women and children being brutalized. You’re actually convinced that demanding the release of all kidnapped citizens as a condition of the ceasefire is a bad idea. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Biden's Delusions About Hamas Continue In case you missed it yesterday, Joe Biden announced a new plan to end the war in Gaza. It's a complicated proposal that would include an immediate ceasefire and the release of some hostages. It would supposedly lead to a permanent ceasefire. Biden also claimed that Israel had "accepted" the terms. Some of you may be wondering how that could happen when Israel hasn't finished eliminating all of Hamas' fighters yet. That's an excellent point. But according to the President, there's no need to do that because Hamas has been "devastated" and they are now "incapable of carrying out another October 7th attack." That will probably come as news to Israel. https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/06/01/bidens-delusions-about-hamas-continue-n3789451 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 Send others to die! Not God's chosen ones! What, only suckers and losers should serve? https://www.yahoo.com/news/israeli-justices-press-government-religious-132200178.html JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The top Israeli court heard responses by the state on Sunday to challenges against exemptions granted to ultra-Orthodox Jews from military conscription, a long-standing source of friction with more secular citizens now inflamed by the long Gaza war. In the name of equality, the Supreme Court in 2018 voided a law waiving the call-up for ultra-Orthodox men who want to study in seminaries instead. Parliament failed to come up with an alternative arrangement, and a government-ordered stay on a mandatory mobilisation of ultra-Orthodox expired in March. That has left Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu scrambling to agree with ultra-Orthodox coalition partners on a military service compromise that might preempt any Supreme Court ruling that Israel's fasted-growing minority must be forcibly drafted. "We're not on quiet waters. We are at war, and the need (for military personnel) cries out," one of nine justices hearing the case, Noam Solberg, told a government lawyer who argued that it was still too early for an ultra-Orthodox mass-conscription. With fighting against Palestinian Hamas militants in Gaza and related violence on the Lebanese border exacting the highest troop casualties in decades, many Israelis resent their fellow citizens being spared their share of the risk. The ultra-Orthodox claim the right to study in seminaries instead of serving in uniform for the standard three years. Some say their pious lifestyles would clash with military mores, while others voice ideological opposition to the liberal state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 https://allisrael.com/red-heifers-in-israel-a-sign-of-the-end-of-the-world As crazy as it sounds, a bunch of red cows from Texas have sparked conspiracy theories about the Third Temple, the wars of Gog and Magog and Armageddon, and the coming of the Antichrist. All very sane. And yet it is the unreligious who are a threat? (I always liked that Gog and Magog thing. Sounds like a little kid made it up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 "Repubs hate women and LGBTQ+! They need to be wiped-off the face of the Earth!" "Palestinians actually kill women and LGBTQ+." "***** your feelings!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reddogblitz Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 On 6/3/2024 at 8:15 AM, Tiberius said: Send others to die! Not God's chosen ones! What, only suckers and losers should serve? https://www.yahoo.com/news/israeli-justices-press-government-religious-132200178.html JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The top Israeli court heard responses by the state on Sunday to challenges against exemptions granted to ultra-Orthodox Jews from military conscription, a long-standing source of friction with more secular citizens now inflamed by the long Gaza war. In the name of equality, the Supreme Court in 2018 voided a law waiving the call-up for ultra-Orthodox men who want to study in seminaries instead. Parliament failed to come up with an alternative arrangement, and a government-ordered stay on a mandatory mobilisation of ultra-Orthodox expired in March. That has left Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu scrambling to agree with ultra-Orthodox coalition partners on a military service compromise that might preempt any Supreme Court ruling that Israel's fasted-growing minority must be forcibly drafted. "We're not on quiet waters. We are at war, and the need (for military personnel) cries out," one of nine justices hearing the case, Noam Solberg, told a government lawyer who argued that it was still too early for an ultra-Orthodox mass-conscription. With fighting against Palestinian Hamas militants in Gaza and related violence on the Lebanese border exacting the highest troop casualties in decades, many Israelis resent their fellow citizens being spared their share of the risk. The ultra-Orthodox claim the right to study in seminaries instead of serving in uniform for the standard three years. Some say their pious lifestyles would clash with military mores, while others voice ideological opposition to the liberal state. So they have deferments for some like we did in Viet Nam in which our illustrious leaders (Presidents Trump and Biden) each took 4. If you don't like deferments I suppose you could vote for RFK Jr. He was too young to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 21 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: So they have deferments for some like we did in Viet Nam in which our illustrious leaders (Presidents Trump and Biden) each took 4. If you don't like deferments I suppose you could vote for RFK Jr. He was too young to get one. It's a pretty crazily skewed demographic problem. The ultra Orthodox are growing in population and political power, egging on some of the most extreme policies like expansion of West Bank settlements. Yet they have been exempt from military service despite stirring up tensions that require a strong military. The situation isn't what we had in the USA in the Vietnam era, since the exemptions/deferments weren't skewed toward proponents of one party or policy. By the way, what ever became of Trump's famous bone spurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 7 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: It's a pretty crazily skewed demographic problem. The ultra Orthodox are growing in population and political power, egging on some of the most extreme policies like expansion of West Bank settlements. Yet they have been exempt from military service despite stirring up tensions that require a strong military. The situation isn't what we had in the USA in the Vietnam era, since the exemptions/deferments weren't skewed toward proponents of one party or policy. By the way, what ever became of Trump's famous bone spurs? They got magically healed with self- purported football star Biden's asthma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: By the way, what ever became of Trump's famous bone spurs? Not sure. You would have to ask him that. Is that any less unpatriotic than asthma? What ever became of President Biden's asthma? Didn't seem to be bothering him on his bike ride the other day. Just admit it. They both took the rich man's way out of Viet Nam. Edited June 4 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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