billsfan_34 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 On 10/7/2023 at 10:29 AM, Doc said: At it's core it's a turf war. Israel was given land and Palestinians want it back/more. No side will win. Israel was once there before the muslims. The middle east/arab world will never change. Best to just stay out of it. Easier said that done, unfortunately. 1
Justice Posted March 22 Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Without more reporting it's a good chance its Hamas trying to use civilian clothing. Israel says there’s around 35k members of Hamas in the Gaza Strip. 2 million people live there. You were saying? lol
Tommy Callahan Posted March 22 Posted March 22 (edited) Welp. They have a point. Hamas has been videos attacking the trucks, taking the aid and attacking the people trying to get the aid 3 minutes ago, Justice said: Israel says there’s around 35k members of Hamas in the Gaza Strip. 2 million people live there. You were saying? lol What's the estimated death toll/pow numbers? That Hamas uses Palestinian people as shields and also wears civilian clothing to blend in. Edited March 22 by Tommy Callahan
Justice Posted March 22 Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Israel was once there before the muslims. The middle east/arab world will never change. Best to just stay out of it. Easier said that done, unfortunately. When Isaac got to that land people were already there. And today’s Palestinians were once Jewish and Christian. And yes please stay out of the Arab world. The US destroyed it and continues to do so. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Just now, Justice said: And today’s Palestinians were once Jewish and Christian. Is that why no Muslim nation will take them in? That entire region is full of very old sects and records of peoples long gone.
Justice Posted March 22 Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Welp. They have a point. Hamas has been videos attacking the trucks, taking the aid and attacking the people trying to get the aid What's the estimated death toll/pow numbers? That Hamas uses Palestinian people as shields and also wears civilian clothing to blend in. I have no clue what the death toll is. If you ask me it’s most likely best more than what they say. Just look at the place. Wait… Hamas does horrible things? No way!!! 1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said: Is that why no Muslim nation will take them in? That entire region is full of very old sects and records of peoples long gone. If you want to make the claim that Palestinians aren’t well represented in Syrian, Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan go right ahead. You’d be wrong though. My parents fled after the war in ‘67 and weren’t allowed back. This is why Arab nations aren’t taking them now. They eventually will though because that place is uninhabitable and they don’t have the means to rebuild.
billsfan_34 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 56 minutes ago, Justice said: I have no clue what the death toll is. If you ask me it’s most likely best more than what they say. Just look at the place. Wait… Hamas does horrible things? No way!!! If you want to make the claim that Palestinians aren’t well represented in Syrian, Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan go right ahead. You’d be wrong though. My parents fled after the war in ‘67 and weren’t allowed back. This is why Arab nations aren’t taking them now. They eventually will though because that place is uninhabitable and they don’t have the means to rebuild. That was the my intention at all. I think it is really sad what is going on in Gaza, Lebanon, and Israel. War sucks, I know this firsthand as I deployed to Iraq, Somalia, and Bosnia. I dont think going back and forth fixes the problems over there. This region has been fighting eachother for 2k years and it doesn’t seem it will let up anytime soon. Im sorry your family had to flee 😢. 4
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted March 22 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Justice said: When Isaac got to that land people were already there. And today’s Palestinians were once Jewish and Christian. And yes please stay out of the Arab world. The US destroyed it and continues to do so. ***** hamas and anyone that supports them. Would love for the us to leave the middle east alone. They can destroy themselves just fine. 1
billsfan_34 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Justice said: When Isaac got to that land people were already there. And today’s Palestinians were once Jewish and Christian. And yes please stay out of the Arab world. The US destroyed it and continues to do so. Im good with staying out of there. Have you been to the middle east? If we circle back to WW II one will find much of the devastation attributed to Hitler. We certainly had a hand in it as well. The local tribes also are equally as guilty. 1
Justice Posted March 22 Posted March 22 2 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Im good with staying out of there. Have you been to the middle east? If we circle back to WW II one will find much of the devastation attributed to Hitler. We certainly had a hand in it as well. The local tribes also are equally as guilty. I've been there a few times 1
Justice Posted March 22 Posted March 22 2 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: That was the my intention at all. I think it is really sad what is going on in Gaza, Lebanon, and Israel. War sucks, I know this firsthand as I deployed to Iraq, Somalia, and Bosnia. I dont think going back and forth fixes the problems over there. This region has been fighting eachother for 2k years and it doesn’t seem it will let up anytime soon. Im sorry your family had to flee 😢. Why did the Jewish people flee to Palestine after the holocaust? I understand it was under British rule at the time but still if it's so unsafe then why go there? Unless the plan was to colonize all along. Before the war in 1948 Jewish people and Muslims got along quite well they even babysat each other's children.
Justice Posted March 22 Posted March 22 (edited) 22 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: The red heifers are ready to ascend to the sacrificial platform. Two religions trying like hell to out-primitive each other? https://allisrael.com/blog/what-do-five-red-heifers-have-to-do-with-the-oct-7-massacre Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount is controversial even within the religious community. The ritual impurity of a population void of the sacrificial system, paired with not knowing exactly where the Temple would have stood, could allow for an accidental desecration of the site. To avoid this possibility, visiting the site – let alone praying on Temple Mount – is discouraged by many Rabbis; however, if the heifer ceremony is successfully completed this spring, that could change things. According to the Book of Numbers, chapter’ 19, the heifer ceremony results in the creation of an ‘ash and water’ mixture used for cleansing the nation of Israel from the ritual impurity of coming in contact with the dead. The ceremony also requires some of the blood to be sprinkled at the front of the Tabernacle and, in later history, the Temple. The ceremony, which traditionally took place on the Mt. of Olives, outside the camp, is essential for all other aspects of Temple worship to take place. "Adam, Cain and Noah find God punitive but soothed by the smell of burnt flesh, mostly animal." - Alasdair Gray The red heifers were purchased and brought over from Texas for $500k. These MFers can’t wait for the end of days. I’m not sure if you know this but that quote was from the Bible, not the Quran. Edited March 22 by Justice
billsfan_34 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 25 minutes ago, Justice said: Why did the Jewish people flee to Palestine after the holocaust? I understand it was under British rule at the time but still if it's so unsafe then why go there? Unless the plan was to colonize all along. Before the war in 1948 Jewish people and Muslims got along quite well they even babysat each other's children. Ya know, the holocaust was an awful thing. All these wars are awful. I wish folks could just get along and live in peace. Perhaps we can get back to what you speak of. Wouldn’t that be a good start? 2
Justice Posted March 22 Posted March 22 26 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Ya know, the holocaust was an awful thing. All these wars are awful. I wish folks could just get along and live in peace. Perhaps we can get back to what you speak of. Wouldn’t that be a good start? I pray for peace and dignity for all. I’m a firm believer in a two state solution. Israel has a right to exist. 1
billsfan_34 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 3 hours ago, Justice said: I pray for peace and dignity for all. I’m a firm believer in a two state solution. Israel has a right to exist. Agreed! They all deserve to live in peace and be able to prosper. 4
Andy1 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 WTH… This move by Israel is not consistent with seeking a peaceful two state resolution. Justice has mentioned this before. Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit Israel’s far-right finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, announced the seizure of 10 square kilometers (3.8 square miles) of Palestinian territory in the West Bank on Friday. The move marks the single largest land seizure by the Israeli government since the 1993 Oslo accords, according to Peace Now, a settlement watchdog group. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/22/israel-largest-west-bank-settlement-blinken-visit/ 1 1
Justice Posted March 23 Posted March 23 (edited) 4 hours ago, Andy1 said: WTH… This move by Israel is not consistent with seeking a peaceful two state resolution. Justice has mentioned this before. Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit Israel’s far-right finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, announced the seizure of 10 square kilometers (3.8 square miles) of Palestinian territory in the West Bank on Friday. The move marks the single largest land seizure by the Israeli government since the 1993 Oslo accords, according to Peace Now, a settlement watchdog group. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/22/israel-largest-west-bank-settlement-blinken-visit/ They don’t need to hide anymore. This world is exactly like a chess table. All their pieces are in place. They’re about to call checkmate. And don’t think this isn’t gonna hurt us US citizens either. That time is coming too. WWIII is upon us and many will perish. Edited March 23 by Justice
Tommy Callahan Posted March 23 Posted March 23 5 hours ago, Justice said: They don’t need to hide anymore. This world is exactly like a chess table. All their pieces are in place. They’re about to call checkmate. And don’t think this isn’t gonna hurt us US citizens either. That time is coming too. WWIII is upon us and many will perish. What are the sides?
cle23 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 20 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: Without more reporting it's a good chance its Hamas trying to use civilian clothing. There's an even better chance that they had zero clue if they were Hamas or not, and instead just fired either way. I understand that war isn't pretty, but killing indiscriminately is a major reason we're here to start with, on both sides. Hamas needs dealt with, that is clear. But Israel is no better. They set up aid stations for food and supplies, and then bombed the area. But it's ok because a couple may have been Hamas? 2
Doc Posted March 23 Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: What are the sides? Good question. 1
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